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Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi {MDV}

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Welcome to the Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi Wiki!
Notes: All prices are in US Dollars and are exclusive of taxes unless specified (by ++)

EXTRA CHARGES - BE AWARE FOLKS!
• A compulsory Christmas Eve Gala Dinner supplement of US$488++ per adult and US$150++ per child applies for stays on 24 December 2019
• A compulsory New Year's Eve Dinner supplement of US$800++ per adult and US$150++ per child applies for stays on 31 December 2019
This lamb to the slaughter approach will force a couple to cough up an extra $3176.63, or a family of 4 (2 adults & 2 kids) $3915.83, if you want to celebrate Xmas and New Years here



Expected Opening: July 01, 2019 (according to official website, see below for link)

There is currently not a lot of solid information on this resort, its prices, room types and amenities. More information will be added bit by bit as it becomes available

Tax Information
• 10% Service Charge (levied by resort)
• 12% T-GST (Tourist Goods & Services Tax, levied by the Maldivian government, current as of Oct 1, 2014)
• Total tax is 23.2%, not 22% as one would think. Example; $100 + 10% = $110, then add 12% on to $110 for a total of $123.20
• • Tip: To work out prices before the 23.2% taxes, multiply by 0.81169, i.e; 123.2 * 0.81169 = 100
• A new Green Tax of $6pp/pn (levied by the Maldivian government) has been introduced starting from 1 November 2015. Points/Redemption bookings are exempt from the tax for up to two guests per room
Note: The $8pp/pn Bed Tax (previously levied by the Maldivian government) was abolished on Dec 1, 2014

Transfers To and From Resort
How: WA Ithaafushi is located in South Malι Atoll, southwest of Velana International Airport [MLE] (also known as Malι International Airport, previously known as Ibrahim Nasir International Airport) and can be reached by speedboat. There may be an option of private yacht transfer (30 mins from Malι) but this is presumably to be announced at a later date

Resort Information / F&B / Spa / Activities
• WA Ithaafushi is made up of three islands
• The resort has 10 restaurants / bars
• There are 2 standalone OWVs (Over Water Villas) and 121 villas in total
• The kids club (one of the biggest in the Maldives) is for children between 4 to 11 years
• Click here to visit the resort's website for more information


Prices - Accommodation:

***** July 2019 Figures *****
• 2 Bedroom Beach Villa with Pool USD 3850
• 2 Bedroom Over Water Villa with Pool USD 4350

***** October 2019 Figures *****
• Beach Villa USD 2100
• Grand Beach Villa USD 2300
• Reef Villa USD 2300
• Grand Reef Villa USD 2500
• Overwater Villa USD 2500
• Grand Overwater Villa USD 2700


***** Upgrade Cost*****
Oct 2019
Reef Villa $200++
OWV $400++


Villa Types and Abbreviations used in this thread (listed in order from most basic to most luxurious)

-- BVs (Beach Villas) --

BV (Beach Villa)
GBV (Grand Beach Villa)
RV (Reef Villa, presumably Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)
GRV (Grand Reef Villa, presumably also a type of Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)

-- OWVs (Over Water Villas) --

OV (Overwater Villa)
GOV (Grand Overwater Villa)



Travel & Safety Information
• The Maldives is listed in Category 1 (the highest category) on the WHO Zika virus classification table. However, don't let that scare you because as of April 13, 2017 there has only been one confirmed case of Zika in the Maldives
• Click here for information related to the single Zika infection in the Maldives (reported in January of that year)


Contact
• General Enquiries: [email protected]
• Reservations Department: TBA
• Tel: +960-4000-300


Weather:
Note: since the resort is close to Mahibadhoo (where there is a weather station), I have added this info from the Conrad Maldives thread as both resorts are close by and the weather will be the same as far as forecasts go (MaldivesFreak)
• General info on weather in the Maldives: Link 1 Link 2 (Maldivian government website)
• Recommended Android weather app: eWeather HD. See this post for detailed info on the app, settings, tips and general weather info (Courtesy of MaldivesFreak)
• Want to get an idea about the weather in the month of August? Click here to read a post from a FT member that spends 2 weeks at Rangali during this month (Courtesy of Splotly)


Pictures (resort under construction):
• January, 2018 Link to post
• June, 2018 Link to post
• Approx October, 2018 Link to post
• January, 2019 Link to post
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Old Feb 22, 19, 11:56 am
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Award space is certainly not fully booked 10 months out.....the resort pulled availability for now to negotiate a worse deal for guests....
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Old Feb 22, 19, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Artemio View Post
2 days ago, I just searched for my planned dates in July to see how many rooms where available on points (to see if I need to hurry for my redemption) . I gave up searching for it at 10 available rooms on points (at the same dates) and figured out I can wait quite a bit
So definitely not because people booked every single available redemption.
Pretty confident though the rooms availability will open up again!
Out if interest, how did you find out there was 10 x rooms available on Points for your dates, Did you ask online chat?
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Old Feb 22, 19, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by John_OHST View Post
One would think so, but maybe they saw a massive amount of redemptions and are attempting to renegotiate. I would imagine that this property has a lot more leverage than a typical property.

It does seem like award availability has been totally pulled as you don't see the stray single nights you normally would.
The day the website went live for reservations the base rooms had no points options (like now). I called to inquire when the base rooms would go live. The CSR said in 5-10days. She was correct. As she was pulling up information I asked if she thought there would a chance they would not offer standard points as this location. She said, like Conrad Maldives and a couple hotels in Hawaii she mentioned by name, the WA Maldives would be a heavy points redemption hotel.

Again, not knowing how all this works, but if a CSR knew (or thought she knew) wouldn't you think the people further up the corporate food chain would know that too? I would not think the heavy use of points early on would be a surprise to anyone.

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Old Feb 23, 19, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by Traveler Dave View Post
The day the website went live for reservations the base rooms had no points options (like now). I called to inquire when the base rooms would go live. The CSR said in 5-10days. She was correct. As she was pulling up information I asked if she thought there would a chance they would not offer standard points as this location. She said, like Conrad Maldives and a couple hotels in Hawaii she mentioned by name, the WA Maldives would be a heavy points redemption hotel.

Again, not knowing how all this works, but if a CSR knew (or thought she knew) wouldn't you think the people further up the corporate food chain would know that too? I would not think the heavy use of points early on would be a surprise to anyone.

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Does anyone have knowledge of other newly opened or opening Hilton properties doing the same as WA and pulling redemptions even if on a temporary basis?
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Old Feb 23, 19, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by brandonpkt View Post
I am doing 6-7 at Conrad and 11-12 at WA in festive season. My plan is to do a round trip sea plane for Conrad and Round trip yacht for WA, both from MLE. I booked WA early so my official PDF saved confirmation says $370++ for Return, which they will apparently honor (even though on the website it is now edited). Therefore, I would personally not save any money even if a direct transfer could be booked between the two resorts. As my one way from WA back to MLE would revert to the now posted $370++ per way....that’s kind of funny now that I think about it

Please do share though if you find a direct option between the two resorts.

BTW- this post is real unlike my last one

I booked February 11. First day the opened reward chart but I cannot see that pdf confirmation. Could you send me by message?
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Old Feb 23, 19, 11:08 am
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I booked February 11. First day the opened reward chart but I cannot see that pdf confirmation. Could you send me by message?
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he went online and screen shotted the information or saved it as a PDF. There is no downloadable pdf.
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Old Feb 23, 19, 1:36 pm
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Yet when I posted about my notion to skip dinner rather than pay $52 for a crappy pizza and beer at CMRI's Quiet Zone, he then attacked me for being "childish" and lectured me.....
The takeaway from his posts is that anyone who spends more than MaldivesFreak in the Maldives is a sucker who is getting ripped off, and anyone who spends less then he does is an underfunded cheapskate who does not appreciate or fully enjoy the Maldives. Either way, you can't win.
Erm, you should, in all fairness,

a) not lie, and admit that you went from 'crappy' (and supporting that opinion) to your actual opinions of 'good' and 'not so good'
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The Quiet Zone is a lovely venue. You sit right on the beach, usually very few other people there. The problem may be that there's no kitchen there, all the food is delivered from the main island, so the pizza wasn't that hot in addition to not being very good. I ate there three years ago, had the $33++ steak sandwich and the same pizza, thought it was good.
.....a bit of a change there, huh. If anyone wants to, they can check out the conversation, mid-point here.

b) have said "There were at least half a dozen people (sorry, I lost count of the exact number) who criticized me for being "childish" / wanting to skip dinner after flying halfway round the world and lectured me as follows.....{insert all other FT' members' posts here}"
You can spin it all you want, but flying thousands of miles to what you know is an expensive 5-star property and end up skipping dinner to save 50 bucks is stupid, plain and simple. But hey, there are people doing it. Anyway, if you think the pizza is crap (which no-one else on TA does*), or is"not so good", then order something else instead!

* yes folks, out of 2600 reviews on TripAdvisor and in the last 6 years in the Conrad Rangali thread, there are all of two complaints about the pizza at Rangali Bar and one is his. As has been shown without a doubt you are indeed biased, so it would be healthy to admit it and stop exaggerating things to make me look biased.

Originally Posted by jphripjah View Post
MaldivesFreak is very knowledgeable about the Maldives resorts but is weirdly hypocritical on his approach to pricing there. If the price of something offends him personally, he will spew venom that Hilton is "screwing" us, that the prices in the Maldives are "legalized extortion," that the Ithaa cocktails and souvenir shops at CMRI are a "ripoff," and that prices charged for Evian are "disgusting."
Again, I have to repeat myself, cut through the bias and point out to folks reading this that those are not solely my opinions, but are the opinions of many many folks here and on TA, even though your spin on it certainly makes it look as if they are only mine and that I am somehow abnormal in what I think is over the line or offensive. Just like my opinion here is very in line with everyone else's (bar that guy) when it comes to the price of the Waldorf's 30-min 'boat ride'. So, if you have something constructive to say that doesn't have a spin put on it, please post away. But I warn you, do not misrepresent me. Otherwise I will retaliate in kind and put things straight like I have had to waste my time doing here.

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Sometimes I am wondering, where you get your information from.

Even Rangali, which hotel you are very familiar, used to have canadian lobster a few years ago, many others still have it on the menu, like the Reethi Rah
How many years ago?

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On your next visit to Rangali you should ask for a tour to staff island, i doubt you will find a lot of local products in the storage facilities.
They do some hydroponics (green salad), plant some Herbs, especially mint for the cocktails, spices, chillies...everything else is imported.

Some more scientific work about this.
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/56361515.pdf
Re: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/56361515.pdf I appreciate the link but I'm not going to read 209 pages from a thesis done 10 years ago.
As far as Rangali goes, they have most of their vegetables grown on a nearby island, not grown on the staff island BTW (obviously not anywhere enough room for that). And there are other resorts which do the same thing.

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Hopefully there will be more local production in the future, and actually there is more than a few years a go, but definitely not enough to deliver the hotels.
Yes, let's hope so. It will help decrease the carbon footprint.

I do apologise as I meant to emphasize that Rangali, as an example, has most of its veges grown locally. I was told that there are other resorts doing this as well, where they can. Obviously it's better to save money, support the locals and go greener.

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Old Feb 23, 19, 2:28 pm
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For 20 Dec 2019 - 21 Dec 2019, we have both King grand beach villa with pool and Two queen bedded grand beach villa with pool for 655,000 points. In order to book it, please contact our Honors team.

Went on live chat tonight about WA availability, this above was the answer. According to CS, all dates with call HH team are available using points but will be high. Recommended to wait until resort opens then all rooms will display how many points to book. I questioned 120k a night for GBV with pool, reply was room rates will vary depending on popularity?

If you click on premium room rewards link, you get this now: so at present looks like its 655 k points per night? 😢

Room: KING GRAND BEACH VILLA WITH POOL

Adults: 1

Children: 0

DATE(USD)01 Jul 2019655,000 pointsRoom Subtotal655,000 pointsTotal for stay655,000 points

Room: KING GRAND BEACH VILLA WITH POOL

Adults: 2

Children: 0

DATE(USD)13 Jan 2020702,000 points
14 Jan 2020702,000 points
15 Jan 2020702,000 points
16 Jan 2020702,000 points
17 Jan 2020702,000 points
18 Jan 2020702,000 points
19 Jan 2020702,000 points

Room Subtotal 4,914,000
pointsTotal for stay 4,914,000 points

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Old Feb 23, 19, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Tilly71 View Post
If you click on premium room rewards link, you get this now: so at present looks like its 655 k points per night? ��Room: KING GRAND BEACH VILLA WITH POOL

Adults: 1

Children: 0

DATE(USD)01 Jul 2019655,000 pointsRoom Subtotal655,000 pointsTotal for stay655,000 points
That is not new. That was the rate, for that room, when the site went live for reservations. The only change is they have pulled back the 120K availability for the “standard” Beach Villa.

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Old Feb 23, 19, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveler Dave View Post


That is not new. That was the rate, for that room, when the site went live for reservations. The only change is they have pulled back the 120K availability for the “standard” Beach Villa.

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Standard BV? Ive only ever seen king beach villa with pool as the lowest room rate available. Do you have a link to a standard BV?
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Old Feb 23, 19, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by MaldivesFreak View Post
How many years ago?
According to your own post from Feb 2017, #3661 , i guess there was canadian lobster until 2016.
Note that now all lobster is local and they don't have Canadian or other, imported lobster.
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Originally Posted by MaldivesFreak View Post

Re: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/56361515.pdf I appreciate the link but I'm not going to read 209 pages from a thesis done 10 years ago.
As far as Rangali goes, they have most of their vegetables grown on a nearby island, not grown on the staff island BTW (obviously not anywhere enough room for that). And there are other resorts which do the same thing.


Yes, let's hope so. It will help decrease the carbon footprint.

I do apologise as I meant to emphasize that Rangali, as an example, has most of its veges grown locally. I was told that there are other resorts doing this as well, where they can. Obviously it's better to save money, support the locals and go greener.
Shangri-La’s support to local farmers has been recognized with the World Responsible Tourism Award 2015 in the Best Hotel for Local Sourcing category.
Supporting 50 local farming households to provide about 10-15 percent of the hotel’s monthly consumption of fruits and vegetables.

https://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/...df?MOD=AJPERES


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Old Feb 23, 19, 3:12 pm
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Standard BV? Ive only ever seen king beach villa with pool as the lowest room rate available. Do you have a link to a standard BV?
Beach Villa
Grand Beach Villa

Both come in two options King bed or “Two-Bedded” (presuming that means two queen beds).

The Beach Villa (both options) were the 120K Points rooms.

Sorry for the confusion with my “standard” wording.

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Old Feb 23, 19, 7:29 pm
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Note that now all lobster is local and they don't have Canadian or other, imported lobster.
Correct that 'now' means 'currently' but does not specify from when or how long it has been like that. It could have been like that for a decade, who knows.

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According to your own post from Feb 2017, #3661 , i guess there was canadian lobster until 2016.
That's purely a guess. "they don't have Canadian" does not necessarily mean they had Canadian lobster before, so one cannot infer previous imported lobster was Canadian. I do not know where the imported lobster they had before came from.
The only certainty is that they had imported lobster at some point in the past.
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Old Feb 23, 19, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawkeyefan View Post
Award space is certainly not fully booked 10 months out.....the resort pulled availability for now to negotiate a worse deal for guests....
I am not surprised since this has hit various blogs as to how you can buy points from the ongoing HH points promo and stay at this hotel for only $470 a night instead of the $2000 that they want.

I got a friend who is not savvy at all when it comes to travel but he booked this with the instructions he found on his facebook stream. Not exactly a good way for this new hotel to start getting their huge investment back when you can get a 75% discount in seconds.
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Old Feb 23, 19, 9:54 pm
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I am not surprised since this has hit various blogs as to how you can buy points from the ongoing HH points promo and stay at this hotel for only $470 a night instead of the $2000 that they want.

I got a friend who is not savvy at all when it comes to travel but he booked this with the instructions he found on his facebook stream. Not exactly a good way for this new hotel to start getting their huge investment back when you can get a 75% discount in seconds.
$470 is probably much closer to the per night value of this place.
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