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American Express Announces Two New Hilton Credit Cards

American Express Announces Two New Hilton Credit Cards

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The resort benefit on the Aspire card only works at the ~200 hotels on the list at this link:
http://www3.hilton.com/en/resorts/index.html#
For existing Surpass card holders, AMEX verbally confirmed that on or after 20 January 2018, card holders can call in and request cards be converted to Aspire - while maintaining the same credit card number, balance limits, PIN, etc.

For the Aspire card, the Annual Weekend Night Reward will be issued in the form of a redeemable code and sent in an email from Hilton Honors to the email address listed on your Hilton Honors account. You will receive the reward email within 8-14 weeks after opening your Card Account and each year within 8-14 weeks after your Card Account anniversary date. E-mail for Hilton providing the free night certificate has been received by several people..

HonorsRepresentative (Lauren) has provided answers in the following posts to some of the questions that have been raised in this thread:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29118905-post491.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29082769-post468.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29068815-post452.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29068259-post449.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29064439-post446.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29037200-post430.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29032382-post420.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29027525-post401.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29014945-post312.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29009198-post227.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29005693-post161.html
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:04 am
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With Amex once in a lifetime limit on bonus you may want to cancel your Citi cards so you can get the Amex card bonus down the road
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by BrlDsguise View Post
I currently have the Citi Hilton Reserve...
Me too, and I do NOT want to deal with American Express -- ever again.

I resent being slammed without my consent into an American Express relationship I do not want. I cannot believe Hilton's "extensive consumer and small business research" elicited a bunch of people saying, yes, hijack my account, switch my card provider, and change all the terms without consulting me.

I expect I'll be getting out of the Citi Reserve card before the slam occurs.

Originally Posted by bmrisko
Well, I guess Diamond just became even more devalued...hopefully the HH lounges don't start becoming super crowded like Centurion airport lounges.
How could Diamond be devalued any further? I've been both (Gold and Diamond) and see no appreciable difference at ground level most of the time. You'd have to be drunk to spend $450 for automatic Diamond status when you get 98% of the benefits for $95 via the other card. Not that I will be carrying either of them.

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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:11 am
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The Aspire card devalues lifetime diamond status. I wonder if Hilton will come out with a higher level than diamond.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by mirror74 View Post
Disgrace by Hilton Honors. Handing out free Diamond status to US customers, while all others have to earn it hard way... now HH Diamond is officially worthless.
I had to laugh at this. I typed in 'Diamond Worthless' into the Hilton forum search, and got 3 pages of threads where those words have been uttered, including a post way back in 2002.

If it was officially worthless in 2002, and in every year since, how did it become officially worthless again in 2017?

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...mond-worthless
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by lmwong1977 View Post
Isn't the "incidental airline" thing not easy to use on the Amex end? I think I read on one of the blogs it runs on the same "rails" as heir other cards.
If you fly frequently on an airline other than WN, the credits are easy to burn. If you don't, they may not be.

They always cover ticket change fees, and I rack up several of those every year so it would be no problem at all for me to burn many hundreds of dollars in credits.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:18 am
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Will there be opportunity/option for current Surpass cardholders to upgauge to the Aspire card? Or would we have to go through the normal application process?
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:22 am
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Speculation from Dr. of Credit about Hilton announcing a new higher tier at some point (Diamond Plus, etc.) and it's easy to see how that might happen with the credit card announcements.

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/hilto...p-tier-status/
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by Need View Post
I wonder if the Aspire card would be metal like the other Amex $450+ cards?
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Amex Delta Reserve is still plastic.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by MNHunter View Post
With Amex once in a lifetime limit on bonus you may want to cancel your Citi cards so you can get the Amex card bonus down the road
I'll be interested in how AX will handle converted Citi HH accounts on lifetime limit.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by BearX220 View Post
How could Diamond be devalued any further? I've been both (Gold and Diamond) and see no appreciable difference at ground level most of the time. You'd have to be drunk to spend $450 for automatic Diamond status when you get 98% of the benefits for $95 via the other card. Not that I will be carrying either of them.
They could devalue Gold, and that would take care of that.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by mikesyr18 View Post
Someone posted a link with FAQ's about the conversion and in it there was literature about AMEX not checking the cardholder's credit.

Below is the specific language from the FAQ here:

https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...transfer/faqs/

"Do I need to apply for a new account with American Express?

No. As long as your account is open and eligible, it will automatically transfer to American Express on January 30, 2018. There is no need to reapply and American Express will not perform a credit check as part of the transfer"

Edited to add this. What a pain....


"Will my card account number change?

Yes. The account numbers for you and your authorized users, if any, will change. Starting January 30, 2018, you will need to provide your updated account information to all merchants with whom you have recurring automatic payments (such as your utility provider, mobile phone provider, or fitness center), card information stored on file (such as HiltonHonors.com, Amazon.com, and Uber), digital wallets (such as Apple Pay and Samsung Pay), and any bill payment services you may use to pay your credit card bill. Your Hilton Honors account number will not change"

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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:42 am
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So I have the AX Surpass, the HH Visa and the HH Reserve. Three cards.

I think that means - - two $95 Ascends and one no-fee Amex.

Last edited by Abidjan; Nov 1, 17 at 8:51 am Reason: Updated.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by mirror74 View Post
Disgrace by Hilton Honors. Handing out free Diamond status to US customers, while all others have to earn it hard way... now HH Diamond is officially worthless.
Not worthless. Apparently worth $450.
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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:46 am
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There is a Priority Pass network of lounges, go to their website to see what you can get into. As for the rest, it will depend on the rules AMEX sets for this card. Delta lounges are not part of the network. It's usually the lounges that are shared between multiple carriers.

I have a Sapphire Reserve and it has Priority Pass as well - I can bring in multiple guests without charge. I also have the AMEX Surpass card and the Priority Pass linked to it is not free (yet) and I would have to pay per visit.

Some of the lounges are decent, but many of them are lounge in name only. It just depends on the airport and who Priority Pass managed to work with.

Originally Posted by Friendly Traveling Deathmerchant View Post
I've got to look into how these Priority Passes work.

I had UA lounge for a long time but gave it up when I started flying Delta... is PP a straight-up pass to get in various lounges, or just a discount / coupon off the entrance fee? Can I bring in a guest, or does my wife need a separate Amex card too for entry?

Also curious about the "resort" credit. One night cert + credit could make this a good go even though initially seems silly steep.

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Old Nov 1, 17, 8:51 am
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Cancel my HH Visa before getting auto-enrolled in HH AMEX?

I already have Diamond status, an HH Visa, but no HH AMEX. I understand that you can only get one AMEX sign-up bonus one time per card type now.

I think that my best bet is to cancel my HH Visa before January 31, so that I don't get auto-enrolled in any HH AMEX, knowing that I may need to "buy" my status some time down the road, getting a sign-up bonus along the way.

Does my way of thinking make sense in this scenario?
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