[ARCHIVE to 2020] Conrad Bora Bora Nui Resort & Spa {PYF}
#2656
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,306
Whoops, let me rephrase, I read the article in post #861 regarding Air France resuming flights in July. This is probably speculation, but the only news I read.
TD
#2657
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,838
Whoops, let me rephrase, I read the article in post #861 regarding Air France resuming flights in July. This is probably speculation, but the only news I read.
#2659
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 101
I'm curious, how was cancelling your airline flights? Did you happen to book with points at all or was it cash/credit card? Did you just call them or email, or? I need to cancel a Hilton and Conrad BB stay, and my Air Tahiti Nui flight, just not looking forward to the latter. I paid in Chase points for nearly all of my base flight, then paid for Premium Economy upgrade in cash. Just dreading it feeling like it is going to be a huge hassle...
#2660
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: HH Diamond, Kimpton IC, Marriott Plat, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 549
#2661
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 98
Although flights can be booked to PPT, is there another way to get to BOB other than flying Air Tahiti? Looks like flights to BOB aren't bookable before September 1st.
#2664
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 222
Here's the latest info I have been able to scrape up.
At this point Conrad BB will plan to open up between July 1 and July 7th but that opening still depends on French Polynesian government approval and operation of both domestic and international flights resuming. The more certain news is that I am told the construction at the resort is nearly completed and the grounds are in excellent condition. There are a number of staff that have remained living at the resort or nearby on Bora Bora, Tahaa and Raiatea islands so staffing should not be an issue as they do not expect even half capacity until the end of the year at the earliest. That said, everyone I have talked to that are affiliated with Conrad Bora Bora seem anxious to get back to welcoming guests.
1. As far as FP government approval for tourism to resume… I have heard a few different things as nothing has been decided as far as how and when to open. The concern is that ~80 percent of all passenger flight capacity into FP arrives via the U.S. yet the virus containment in the U.S. is up in the air as cases continue to increase in many U.S. regions and no one knows where the U.S. infection numbers will head over the next several weeks. To compound problems, all visitors transiting the LAX, SFO or HNL airports from Europe or elsewhere technically have to enter the U.S. by clearing customs and then immediately exit the country to catch their onward flight to Papeete. By early to mid-June the FP government will have to decide if they will open for July and to residents of which countries. In addition, if they decide the U.S. residents are not safe to visit then what do they do about Canadians, Europeans and others that are forced to transit through the U.S. (which means entering the U.S., albeit for a very short time). My best guess based on several people I have talked to is that the FP Government would be willing to accept transiting risk of those passing through America to get to FP but that they may very closely look at the U.S. virus case load and deem U.S. visitors unsafe. That would open up a can worms though as more than half of the passengers making up that ~80% passenger capacity of flights that stop last in the U.S. are in fact U.S. residents. If that does play out, I would expect Air France and French Bee to operate normally but Air Tahiti Nui would probably only operate their flights that from Paris to Papeete with the LAX stopover. That’s of course assuming those transiting passengers from their particular domiciled country are even allowed into the U.S. to connect to their onward flights (as it stands today most foreign nationals that have been in practically any European country in the past 14 days are barred from entering the U.S.). I do not believe if would be feasible for any of the long-haul airlines to regularly operate without the LAX or SFO stopover (even though it was done for a handful of flights on an emergency basis).
The only other ways into Tahiti by air travel are via Tokyo and Auckland (and sometimes Easter and Cook Islands) but unlike in the U.S. transiting Asia Pacific passengers don’t have to enter either New Zealand or Japan at the airports in Auckland and Tokyo, Narita. Although at this point that is a mostly a non-issue as well because New Zealand has shutdown all international flights and Japan has very limited connectivity. I wonder if they would consider opening initially only to visitors on flights from New Zealand and Japan? It also begs the question if Air France, Air Tahiti Nui and French Bee would consider transiting their Paris to Papeete flights through Japan or New Zealand instead of Los Angeles or San Francisco? In fact, CDG to NRT is not much further than CDG to LAX and Narita has a ton of gate space open these days as Haneda is the new go to airport in Tokyo as of late. NRT to PPT though is a bit longer of a haul compared to LAX to PPT but easily doable with 777 and 787 equipment. I also have to think significant and long lead time regulatory hurdles would exist but who knows these days.
2. Air Tahiti is still the weakest link in the transportation chain. They need to start operating again in July so I think the government will take that into consideration and perhaps a phased opening to certain countries might be the ultimate solution. I think at a minimum they will push for some opening of the country by the first week of July. The million “dollar” question will it include the U.S. and will the U.S. have lifted its ban of Europeans entering the U.S. by that time.
At this point Conrad BB will plan to open up between July 1 and July 7th but that opening still depends on French Polynesian government approval and operation of both domestic and international flights resuming. The more certain news is that I am told the construction at the resort is nearly completed and the grounds are in excellent condition. There are a number of staff that have remained living at the resort or nearby on Bora Bora, Tahaa and Raiatea islands so staffing should not be an issue as they do not expect even half capacity until the end of the year at the earliest. That said, everyone I have talked to that are affiliated with Conrad Bora Bora seem anxious to get back to welcoming guests.
1. As far as FP government approval for tourism to resume… I have heard a few different things as nothing has been decided as far as how and when to open. The concern is that ~80 percent of all passenger flight capacity into FP arrives via the U.S. yet the virus containment in the U.S. is up in the air as cases continue to increase in many U.S. regions and no one knows where the U.S. infection numbers will head over the next several weeks. To compound problems, all visitors transiting the LAX, SFO or HNL airports from Europe or elsewhere technically have to enter the U.S. by clearing customs and then immediately exit the country to catch their onward flight to Papeete. By early to mid-June the FP government will have to decide if they will open for July and to residents of which countries. In addition, if they decide the U.S. residents are not safe to visit then what do they do about Canadians, Europeans and others that are forced to transit through the U.S. (which means entering the U.S., albeit for a very short time). My best guess based on several people I have talked to is that the FP Government would be willing to accept transiting risk of those passing through America to get to FP but that they may very closely look at the U.S. virus case load and deem U.S. visitors unsafe. That would open up a can worms though as more than half of the passengers making up that ~80% passenger capacity of flights that stop last in the U.S. are in fact U.S. residents. If that does play out, I would expect Air France and French Bee to operate normally but Air Tahiti Nui would probably only operate their flights that from Paris to Papeete with the LAX stopover. That’s of course assuming those transiting passengers from their particular domiciled country are even allowed into the U.S. to connect to their onward flights (as it stands today most foreign nationals that have been in practically any European country in the past 14 days are barred from entering the U.S.). I do not believe if would be feasible for any of the long-haul airlines to regularly operate without the LAX or SFO stopover (even though it was done for a handful of flights on an emergency basis).
The only other ways into Tahiti by air travel are via Tokyo and Auckland (and sometimes Easter and Cook Islands) but unlike in the U.S. transiting Asia Pacific passengers don’t have to enter either New Zealand or Japan at the airports in Auckland and Tokyo, Narita. Although at this point that is a mostly a non-issue as well because New Zealand has shutdown all international flights and Japan has very limited connectivity. I wonder if they would consider opening initially only to visitors on flights from New Zealand and Japan? It also begs the question if Air France, Air Tahiti Nui and French Bee would consider transiting their Paris to Papeete flights through Japan or New Zealand instead of Los Angeles or San Francisco? In fact, CDG to NRT is not much further than CDG to LAX and Narita has a ton of gate space open these days as Haneda is the new go to airport in Tokyo as of late. NRT to PPT though is a bit longer of a haul compared to LAX to PPT but easily doable with 777 and 787 equipment. I also have to think significant and long lead time regulatory hurdles would exist but who knows these days.
2. Air Tahiti is still the weakest link in the transportation chain. They need to start operating again in July so I think the government will take that into consideration and perhaps a phased opening to certain countries might be the ultimate solution. I think at a minimum they will push for some opening of the country by the first week of July. The million “dollar” question will it include the U.S. and will the U.S. have lifted its ban of Europeans entering the U.S. by that time.
Last edited by FleyeSkyHigh; May 5, 2020 at 9:57 pm
#2668
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 158
@Traveler Dave
I also have a booking in November. Have you been during November? Weatherspark says that it's 80% cloudy and I would appreciate any opinions regarding this.
I also have a booking in November. Have you been during November? Weatherspark says that it's 80% cloudy and I would appreciate any opinions regarding this.
#2669
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,306
@Traveler Dave
I also have a booking in November. Have you been during November? Weatherspark says that it's 80% cloudy and I would appreciate any opinions regarding this.
I also have a booking in November. Have you been during November? Weatherspark says that it's 80% cloudy and I would appreciate any opinions regarding this.
But would be interested in late November. Perhaps a Thanksgiving trip?
TD
#2670
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 3
Was there for 6 nights, oct 2019. weather was perfect, we had light rain maybe twice but didnt last longer than an hour each time. water was great, snorkeled in the morning and afternoon. had no need for long sleeves.