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Old Dec 7, 2017, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I was a bit puzzled by it. I used to live in Hong Kong (and New York) so I'm not exactly detached here. I think the way I would characterise this is that some people visiting New York for the first time would want to stay near Times Square in an upmarket brand hotel. Nothing wrong with that approach, much would be on your doorstep and you can maximise your time better, perhaps, and there is also comfort feeling of being in the centre of things, lots of police for example. Some people aren't very adventurous, nothing wrong with that. On the other hand if you go to the less popular areas such as the Fashion District or Midtown East, you may get a better value hotel, and thanks to good public transport you don't miss out much in terms of accessibility. And you may gain by have a residential neighbourhood near by. This story can be played out in any major city with good local transport - and those two often go together.

The Conrad is one of my favourite hotels in the world (possibly my very favourite), location is nearly perfect but it is extremely expensive sometimes, and just very expensive at other times. So HGI Mongkok is well located for public transport and you're weighing up the cost difference and the location trade-off.

If I was a first time visitor, I would be happy to have that choice. Both hotels are suitable for first time visitors for different reasons.
Originally Posted by MP001
I was a first time visitor to HK in July and I stayed at the HGI.
Overall I am very satisfied of the choice.
Indeed the immediate buildings close to the hotel and run down, but that is it.
I felt safe anytime and you walk a couple of blocks you are on Nathan road.
I used the A21 bus from the airpot that is extremely cheap and drops you on Nathan road, few minutes walking to the hotel. MRT is also close and I used it to travel around Hong Kong.
The hotel itself is a standard Hilton Garden Inn, I had breakfast included that was ok and I was upgraded to high floor. You don’t have the harbour view, rooms are facing a motorway, so better to have higher floors so you have a better view of the surrounding.
To me it was a good experience, and I would not hesitate to stay again.

Thanks for these posts...

Just booked my room for a three night stay next week. Opted in for the late checkout and the room upgrade to a suite after taking the breakfast included room offer that was a garden facing room. Was a sucker as a first-time visitor? Just curious.

Am hopeful that a "deal/compromise" will be able to be negotiated once I'm onsite checking in if I opt not to accept the upgrades as offered considering I'm Gold.

Any tips/suggestions? Conrad was much more expensive at this point with my booking this close to my scheduled arrival.
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by Zacnlinc
Thanks for these posts...

Just booked my room for a three night stay next week. Opted in for the late checkout and the room upgrade to a suite after taking the breakfast included room offer that was a garden facing room. Was a sucker as a first-time visitor? Just curious.

Am hopeful that a "deal/compromise" will be able to be negotiated once I'm onsite checking in if I opt not to accept the upgrades as offered considering I'm Gold.

Any tips/suggestions? Conrad was much more expensive at this point with my booking this close to my scheduled arrival.
How exactly did you finagle a suite upgrade at booking as a Gold?

What kind of tips/suggestions are you looking for?
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by as219
How exactly did you finagle a suite upgrade at booking as a Gold?

What kind of tips/suggestions are you looking for?

^ I really do not know... Maybe the system took pity on me as I've been checking on the HGI and the Conrad for at least the past two weeks. And with each check, the HGI's prices when up but not to the level of the Conrad's. I only pulled the trigger when a deluxe king harbor view room became available yesterday (Will be arriving there next Wednesday morning).

I was surprised to see the offers (late checkout and suite upgrade) too. Maybe there aren't enough Diamonds slated to check in and rather than gift it away, they are offering to sell it to Golds. Shame that I will miss Diamond too. I'm going to be 8-stays short of Diamond. Maybe that played a role as well. Already, I'm still not 100% sure if I will accept the upgrade is it will double the cost of the 3-night stay. Hmm.... I have some time to mull it over indeed.
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Zacnlinc
^ I really do not know... Maybe the system took pity on me as I've been checking on the HGI and the Conrad for at least the past two weeks. And with each check, the HGI's prices when up but not to the level of the Conrad's. I only pulled the trigger when a deluxe king harbor view room became available yesterday (Will be arriving there next Wednesday morning).

I was surprised to see the offers (late checkout and suite upgrade) too. Maybe there aren't enough Diamonds slated to check in and rather than gift it away, they are offering to sell it to Golds. Shame that I will miss Diamond too. I'm going to be 8-stays short of Diamond. Maybe that played a role as well. Already, I'm still not 100% sure if I will accept the upgrade is it will double the cost of the 3-night stay. Hmm.... I have some time to mull it over indeed.
So you were offered a paid upgrade to a suite? I'm still confused... And what tips were you looking for?
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by as219
So you were offered a paid upgrade to a suite? I'm still confused... And what tips were you looking for?
Maybe it was a NOR1 upgrade offer?
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by as219
So you were offered a paid upgrade to a suite? I'm still confused... And what tips were you looking for?

Yes... Offered a paid upgrade to a Suite. Apparently I have up to check-in to decide if I want it, if offered. No noticed received yet that it's mine to accept.

And the tips/suggestions I was looking for was to know if I should blindly accept the offer or decline it and hope that in the end an upgrade of some sort if offered free. It appears the occupancy is coming down to the wire. I checked out the NOR-1 upgrade thread referenced in the post and agree that maybe it is that type of offer. They want to move folks to a higher classed room to avoid upgrading people for free. Monday evening is my most likely last chance to monitor things prior to arriving at the hotel Wednesday morning.

Will be my first time to HKG so having a nice upgraded room with a view will make it just that much more memorable indeed!!
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Old Dec 9, 2017, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by Zacnlinc
Yes... Offered a paid upgrade to a Suite. Apparently I have up to check-in to decide if I want it, if offered. No noticed received yet that it's mine to accept.

And the tips/suggestions I was looking for was to know if I should blindly accept the offer or decline it and hope that in the end an upgrade of some sort if offered free. It appears the occupancy is coming down to the wire. I checked out the NOR-1 upgrade thread referenced in the post and agree that maybe it is that type of offer. They want to move folks to a higher classed room to avoid upgrading people for free. Monday evening is my most likely last chance to monitor things prior to arriving at the hotel Wednesday morning.

Will be my first time to HKG so having a nice upgraded room with a view will make it just that much more memorable indeed!!
Assuming the paid upgrade is a good price, I'd take it. Appreciate that there may be free upgrades on the day but:

1. It's an HGI so they are under no obligation to offer any kind of status upgrade; I've only stayed there once and would return at the right price, and did get a high(ish) floor "harbour" view from the lowest room category, but even so...
2. I doubt they have many suites at all, so even if it is offered free, there's no real reason to expect it would be offered to you - in a Hilton that has to upgrade status card holders it'd be different - but even then you're gold, not diamond;
3. The rooms, while reasonable for HK, are still small - you would get quite a lot of benefit from the suite - in some places a good corner room is 40 square metres and has a sofa anyway. This won't be one of them.
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Old Dec 9, 2017, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by Cymro
Assuming the paid upgrade is a good price, I'd take it. Appreciate that there may be free upgrades on the day but:

1. It's an HGI so they are under no obligation to offer any kind of status upgrade; I've only stayed there once and would return at the right price, and did get a high(ish) floor "harbour" view from the lowest room category, but even so...
2. I doubt they have many suites at all, so even if it is offered free, there's no real reason to expect it would be offered to you - in a Hilton that has to upgrade status card holders it'd be different - but even then you're gold, not diamond;
3. The rooms, while reasonable for HK, are still small - you would get quite a lot of benefit from the suite - in some places a good corner room is 40 square metres and has a sofa anyway. This won't be one of them.
Thanks! Will keep all of this in minds indeed! One of the main reasons I accepted to accept the offer at this time is because of the room size for sure. A couple friends "warned" me about that and if possible take an offer larger room regardless of where I decided to stay. And with lots of garden twin bed rooms being offered at HGI, it just made since to take the king Harbor view when it appeared. I figured some one got upgraded to make the room available.

Regardless of the room, I know I'll find myself staring out the window at night as business will preoccupy all of my daylight time for sure!
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
So in short the options are:
- fastest: train to Kowloon and taxi, about 30 minutes, HKD 90+30 = HKD120 approx
- cheapest: train to Tsing Yi, metro to Olympic, about 45 minutes = HKD60, details above
- very cheapest: A21 bus to Changsha Street, about 70 minutes = HKD 33 (actually if you are of limited mobility, this has very little walking)
- most convenient: taxi from the airport, about 40 to 70 minutes, depending on traffic = HKD 230 approx.
Thanks for the most helpful information. I opted for the very cheapest one and it took only 45 minutes
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Old Feb 8, 2018, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Just some directions from the airport, using the Airport Express train and then the metro to Olympic rather than Mongkok. The advantage of this is that it's fairly direct, only HKD 60, and mainly indoors.

So take the Express one stop to Tsing Yi, then follow the signs for the Tung Chung (orange) line, direction Hong Kong (platform 4). Go three stops to Olympic, then take exit route D, through Olympian City mall 2, bearing leftwards by Watsons, then on to Olympian City 3. A series of walkways cover the whole distance. Once in Olympian City 3 go to the centre of the building to the main escalators, down to ground level, the main exit is on Hoi Ting Street. Turn left, past some tennis courts, then through the tiny Cherry Street Park. At the WC block turn right, and you'll end up opposite the HGI. The footbridge over the highway is obvious and on the right.


Here's an alternative, which is somewhat more straightforward (and perhaps slightly longer), a bit more indoors and has a lift at the footbridge (which might be handy if you have heavy luggage or back problems ). Follow C-W-S directions until you're approaching Olympian 3. Then go to the centre of the building to the main escalators, remain on the same floor and follow the signs to Olympian 3 / The Hermitage / Mong Kok MTR station. Once leaving the Hermitage complex, there is an indoor footbridge that becomes a "normal" footbridge and crosses the highway. Once over the bridge turn right using the stairs (or the lift), continue walking for less than five minutes and you're at the HGI.

Unfortunately it's already dark and I'm leaving early tomorrow so this is as good as it gets.

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Old Feb 8, 2018, 9:19 pm
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I just want to chime in on travel time to the hotel. I've been twice and both times I took the A21 bus. It took well under 40 minutes. Google maps says 70 minutes but this is clearly schedule based. I think you should just consider the traffic patterns before deciding - if the roads are quiet this will always be fastest and cheapest. Even better deal with an Octopus card. You can even take the underground walkway to cross Nathan road at Soy St. It is definitely not a comfortable and stress free ride IMO. You will have to pay attention on the bus and carry luggage up/down stairs.

I've also done the whole footbridge to Olympian City and it is reasonable but I would only consider if traffic is bad.
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Old Feb 24, 2018, 12:25 am
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I’m here now as a Diamond. No changes from the previous posts. The A21 bus is convenient and much faster than Google estimates. The breakfast buffet is an odd mix of east and west. No bacon, but they have chicken nuggets.

The neighborhood is kind of a HK version of Home Depot, but there are also tons of small cheap restaurants and dumpling stands. It’s also an easy walk to Tim Ho Wan, and to the Mongkok MRT.

There is also a little room with washer and dryer available for HKD$100. Bonus points that the token it uses looks like a cat head.


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Old Mar 23, 2018, 8:51 pm
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Am I understanding correctly that all the rooms are facing the harbor side/motorway side of the building even though we may not actually see the harbor? I don't mind looking at the motorway, just don't want to be looking at walls of old buildings on the back side. Will have a 2-night stay there next month.
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Old Mar 23, 2018, 9:05 pm
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Am I understanding correctly that all the rooms are facing the harbor side/motorway side of the building even though we may not actually see the harbor? I don't mind looking at the motorway, just don't want to be looking at walls of old buildings on the back side. Will have a 2-night stay there next month.
That’s right. They all face west, but only rooms on the uppermost floors afford official harbor views. it’s a strange building, actually, with rooms only on one side. That said I liked my stay there and would return.
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Old Mar 23, 2018, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by as219


That’s right. They all face west, but only rooms on the uppermost floors afford official harbor views. it’s a strange building, actually, with rooms only on one side. That said I liked my stay there and would return.
Thank you so much, as219, for the quick response! If we don't get the harborview room at least I'll have fun looking at cars!
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