Dec 16, 2014, 2:26 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Lifetime Diamond Status with HHonors is now reality. ^
More recent information posted by Lauren (Hilton Honors Representative) reflects changes in the Honors Lifetime Diamond qualifying criteria:
Previous:
Details for the first inductees were announced on the 11th Feb. 2015. Erin (HHonors Rep here on FT) posted the announcement shortly before the emails were sent out to members on the same day.
[B]Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014:
All paid stays count — not just the paid stays during the years a member is a Hilton HHonors diamond.
As more information becomes available it will be added here. Should you have any updates please post them in the thread or in this wiki to keep the most pertinent info quickly available to those interested.
For those interested, the development unfolded as follows:
Erin, the HHonors rep on FT posted the following on 16/12/2014: (after some eagle eyed attention by adambrock from an email sent out by Hilton and which he thankfully posted here on FT: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...tus-email.html Kudos to adambrock for noticing and sharing it with the community. ^)
HHonorsRepresentative (Erin) wrote in that thread:
In 2015, HHonors will begin introducing Lifetime Diamond Status! As you may know, we’re always looking for new ways to reward you and we take into consideration your feedback on ways to recognize our most loyal members. Over the past several years, we’ve heard from you that Lifetime Diamond Status is important to you and I’m thrilled to announce that we will be inviting some of our most tenured Diamond members into this status.
I’ll have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!
levman wrote in a post on Jan 24:
The best source of info I've found is the email address [email protected]. It seems to be staffed with people dedicated to the Lifetime Diamond program.
More recent information posted by Lauren (Hilton Honors Representative) reflects changes in the Honors Lifetime Diamond qualifying criteria:
Hi all,
A few months ago, we received some great feedback in the Q&A thread with our VP of Hilton HHonors, Aaron Glick. While the team explores a number of initiatives, one area that we could change quickly was our Lifetime Diamond qualifications. As of January 2017, we will grant Lifetime Diamond to all members who have met the following criteria:
• Members who have maintained Diamond status for at least 10 years (years do not need to be consecutive)
AND
• Have stayed at least 1,000 nights - either paid or reward (as you may know, only paid nights were eligible before)
OR
• Have accumulated 2 million Base Points since joining the Hilton HHonors program (this is a new feature to enable more members to enjoy Lifetime Diamond status; also as a reminder, only Base Points are eligible...Bonus Points earned via promotions, co-brand credit cards, or other means do not count towards status)
So now, there will be essentially two ways you can qualify for Lifetime Diamond:
1. 10 years at Diamond with Hilton HHonors + 1,000 nights (including paid and reward)
2. 10 years at Diamond + 2 million cumulative Base Points
An email notification will go out in February to members who have qualified for Lifetime Diamond as of December 31, 2016. If you want a sneak peek to find out if you will qualify, you can contact the Diamond Desk and the team will be happy to help.
Please reach out with any questions or comments, and I’ll be sure to share them directly with Aaron and team.
Thank you!
Lauren
A few months ago, we received some great feedback in the Q&A thread with our VP of Hilton HHonors, Aaron Glick. While the team explores a number of initiatives, one area that we could change quickly was our Lifetime Diamond qualifications. As of January 2017, we will grant Lifetime Diamond to all members who have met the following criteria:
• Members who have maintained Diamond status for at least 10 years (years do not need to be consecutive)
AND
• Have stayed at least 1,000 nights - either paid or reward (as you may know, only paid nights were eligible before)
OR
• Have accumulated 2 million Base Points since joining the Hilton HHonors program (this is a new feature to enable more members to enjoy Lifetime Diamond status; also as a reminder, only Base Points are eligible...Bonus Points earned via promotions, co-brand credit cards, or other means do not count towards status)
So now, there will be essentially two ways you can qualify for Lifetime Diamond:
1. 10 years at Diamond with Hilton HHonors + 1,000 nights (including paid and reward)
2. 10 years at Diamond + 2 million cumulative Base Points
An email notification will go out in February to members who have qualified for Lifetime Diamond as of December 31, 2016. If you want a sneak peek to find out if you will qualify, you can contact the Diamond Desk and the team will be happy to help.
Please reach out with any questions or comments, and I’ll be sure to share them directly with Aaron and team.
Thank you!
Lauren
Details for the first inductees were announced on the 11th Feb. 2015. Erin (HHonors Rep here on FT) posted the announcement shortly before the emails were sent out to members on the same day.
Hi all,
Thanks for your patience as I gathered more details on our Lifetime Diamond rollout. As we’re in the New Year, I have some additional details to share with you.
Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014: Members that met this criteria as of December 31, 2014 will be notified via email and receive their Lifetime Diamond Status in the mail at the physical address on their account at the end of February. Members that meet Lifetime Diamond Status criteria in the middle of the year will receive Lifetime Diamond Status at the beginning of the following year.
Please note that we are in early stages of this benefit, which means that elements of this offering may evolve and may change over time. As I hear of any updates, I will be sure to share those here.
As always, your input is truly valued and we welcome your thoughts and feedback during this launch period. We’re here and listening!
Thanks,
Erin
Thanks for your patience as I gathered more details on our Lifetime Diamond rollout. As we’re in the New Year, I have some additional details to share with you.
Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014:
- Have maintained Diamond Status for at least 10 years (consecutive or concurrent) and
- Completed paid stays totaling at least 1,000 nights
Please note that we are in early stages of this benefit, which means that elements of this offering may evolve and may change over time. As I hear of any updates, I will be sure to share those here.
As always, your input is truly valued and we welcome your thoughts and feedback during this launch period. We’re here and listening!
Thanks,
Erin
All paid stays count — not just the paid stays during the years a member is a Hilton HHonors diamond.
As more information becomes available it will be added here. Should you have any updates please post them in the thread or in this wiki to keep the most pertinent info quickly available to those interested.
For those interested, the development unfolded as follows:
Erin, the HHonors rep on FT posted the following on 16/12/2014: (after some eagle eyed attention by adambrock from an email sent out by Hilton and which he thankfully posted here on FT: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...tus-email.html Kudos to adambrock for noticing and sharing it with the community. ^)
HHonorsRepresentative (Erin) wrote in that thread:
In 2015, HHonors will begin introducing Lifetime Diamond Status! As you may know, we’re always looking for new ways to reward you and we take into consideration your feedback on ways to recognize our most loyal members. Over the past several years, we’ve heard from you that Lifetime Diamond Status is important to you and I’m thrilled to announce that we will be inviting some of our most tenured Diamond members into this status.
I’ll have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!
levman wrote in a post on Jan 24:
The best source of info I've found is the email address [email protected]. It seems to be staffed with people dedicated to the Lifetime Diamond program.
Consolidated "Lifetime Diamond - Experiences, Questions, Is It Worth It?" thread
Dec 19, 2014, 12:11 pm
#76
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I'm curious to see if the requirements are going to be known at all, Hilton may decide to simply keep that 'hidden' at least for the beginning as they are invite only.
Obviously would be good to know what the requirements are but that doesn't mean we will know.
Does anyone know the amount of members (total members) in the other programs that offer Lifetime status? Just curious as I believe Hilton has 55 million members and I'm wondering how this compares (and then obviously if the Diamond and Gold will be eventually included or just diamond.)
If the other programs have significantly fewer members then I imagine it will only be Diamond but if they are similar or even bigger in size then maybe there is a chance for Gold lifetime status as well.
Certainly Diamonds would be 2.5% or less of the membership (one would guess) so numbers matter. Gold must be significantly higher numbers, I'm guessing somewhere between 10 and 25% of the membership so if the other programs are half the size, we likely won't be seeing the Gold level anytime soon...
I do wonder if 'activity' on TA / social media / blogs / FT will be part of the formula (obviously some stays/nights/points criteria but maybe also an 'influencer' factor as well?)
Obviously would be good to know what the requirements are but that doesn't mean we will know.
Does anyone know the amount of members (total members) in the other programs that offer Lifetime status? Just curious as I believe Hilton has 55 million members and I'm wondering how this compares (and then obviously if the Diamond and Gold will be eventually included or just diamond.)
If the other programs have significantly fewer members then I imagine it will only be Diamond but if they are similar or even bigger in size then maybe there is a chance for Gold lifetime status as well.
Certainly Diamonds would be 2.5% or less of the membership (one would guess) so numbers matter. Gold must be significantly higher numbers, I'm guessing somewhere between 10 and 25% of the membership so if the other programs are half the size, we likely won't be seeing the Gold level anytime soon...
I do wonder if 'activity' on TA / social media / blogs / FT will be part of the formula (obviously some stays/nights/points criteria but maybe also an 'influencer' factor as well?)
1000 nights for Lifetime Diamond at Hilton wouldn't surprise me, but if it's around 700-800 nights, that would be more akin to what I'm expecting.
I don't expect that I qualify for LT Diamomd but I got the email still. So who knows.
Dec 19, 2014, 1:02 pm
#77
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Hyatt and SPG have far fewer hotels than Hilton, and that alone would lead me to expect that HHonors likely has way more program members than Hyatt or a Starwood. Starwood counts award nights for purposes of lifetime elite status, and maybe Hilton might do the same -- not that I expect that with Hilton.
1000 nights for Lifetime Diamond at Hilton wouldn't surprise me, but if it's around 700-800 nights, that would be more akin to what I'm expecting.
1000 nights for Lifetime Diamond at Hilton wouldn't surprise me, but if it's around 700-800 nights, that would be more akin to what I'm expecting.
Dec 19, 2014, 1:03 pm
#78
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Suburban Philadelphia
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Plat, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,392
I just hope there is no Points requirements a la Marriott. What's awful is that for Marriott I have the required nights for lifetime Gold status so far, but less than 50% of the required points (and yes, I usually credit points when I stay.)
Dec 19, 2014, 1:52 pm
#79
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: ATL - DL DM/3MM - HH Lifetime Diamond - Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 3,117
I called and was given the following info.
Member since Nov 1987
Diamond since 1996
I am listed as a legacy member and have already been given Diamond into 2017.
The agent told me don't worry, your account has already been looked at!
Cool
btw - I didn't get the email.
Member since Nov 1987
Diamond since 1996
I am listed as a legacy member and have already been given Diamond into 2017.
The agent told me don't worry, your account has already been looked at!
Cool
btw - I didn't get the email.
Last edited by Tomphot; Dec 19, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Dec 19, 2014, 2:29 pm
#80
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 132
I look forward to seeing more details. I want a program which has set in stone requirements. I have been spending more time at Marriott recently trying to chase lifetime status. Depending on how this is handled I could see myself moving those stays back to Hilton due to this program.
I would like this to be something similar to Marriott's program where you have multiple levels at the very least it makes sense to have both a lifetime Gold and a lifetime Diamond.
I would like this to be something similar to Marriott's program where you have multiple levels at the very least it makes sense to have both a lifetime Gold and a lifetime Diamond.
Dec 19, 2014, 3:01 pm
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If this is something like Hyatt's requirement to spend something like $200,000 to have a chance to get lifetime Diamond status, can't say I'll be in the game for that game. I spread my stays across so many brands and am booked via so many different booking channels that deciding to rack up $200,000 in eligible hotel charges for lifetime elite status just isn't going to happen for me absent extraordinary circumstances.
A straight "night/stay counter + X number of years at a given status level" requirement would make more sense for me and be more attractive to me than having to consciously note that the pursuit of the lifetime status will be $200,000 or more.
A straight "night/stay counter + X number of years at a given status level" requirement would make more sense for me and be more attractive to me than having to consciously note that the pursuit of the lifetime status will be $200,000 or more.
Dec 19, 2014, 4:07 pm
#82
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
I've been a Diamond since...this year, but I was Gold the year before that. But I've been a member since '95.
I called and asked if I was on the LT list. After she stopped laughing, she basically told me not to hold my breath.
I called and asked if I was on the LT list. After she stopped laughing, she basically told me not to hold my breath.
Dec 19, 2014, 4:42 pm
#83
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: BA Executive Club, AC Aéroplan, Accor ALL
Posts: 475
I would be shocked if they use anything other than lifetime base points to do this. I joined HHonors in 1996 but I wouldn't expect the fact I simply filled in a form before someone else to influence eligibility for lifetime Diamond.
Dec 20, 2014, 1:01 am
#84
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA S, VS S, SQ G, HH D, IHG D/A, Marriott G, Radisson G, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,945
Lifetime base points would seem the most likely way if they're wanting to reward direct spend with them. Overall points (or perhaps even stays if reward ones are included) would more reward those with acces to large credit card bonus/earning rates.
Dec 20, 2014, 2:05 am
#85
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Location: DEN
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Well, I have about 10 years less of diamond than you, but makes me feel slightly better that I too didn't get the email.
Dec 20, 2014, 11:49 am
#86
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: DFW from PDX - UA 1K 2MM,Lifetime HHonnors Diamond, Bonvoy AMB/LT Tit, National Exec Elite, Hertz PC
Posts: 554
Checked
I checked and have last 14 years as diamond with 957 stays and 1300 nights. Maintained Diamond the last few years but have been spending time with other brands for lifetime status there. Would love to see a program at Hilton ;-)
No email for me either, but I never get them either.
No email for me either, but I never get them either.
Dec 20, 2014, 2:06 pm
#87
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Corvallis, OR, USA
Programs: UA GS; Hilton LT Diamond, Marriott, Hyatt; Hertz
Posts: 320
I got my first 3-year diamond status a couple of years ago and just was extended to 2017. Hope I make it, since I have made a point of re-qualifying for Diamond every year even though I had the status without doing so. I also sometimes book and pay for multiple rooms but only get credit for one or two ...
(Erin, put in a good word for me???)
But no email... Then again, I never get email other than the confirmation emails.
Fingers crossed ...
(Erin, put in a good word for me???)
But no email... Then again, I never get email other than the confirmation emails.
Fingers crossed ...
Dec 20, 2014, 2:23 pm
#88
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: DFW
Programs: AA PLT (fmr EXP), UA SLV, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat Premier (LTG), IHG Gold, National Exec Elite
Posts: 175
Nowhere near most of you since I've only been traveling for work for 5 years now, but just called and have been Diamond since 2010 with 192 stays and 343 nights. Long way from what the requirements will likely be but much more activity with Hilton than Marriott/SPG so far.
This is seriously exciting news though!
This is seriously exciting news though!