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Lifetime Diamond Status Arrives at Hilton Honors — With Required Qualifications

Lifetime Diamond Status Arrives at Hilton Honors — With Required Qualifications

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Lifetime Diamond Status with HHonors is now reality.

More recent information posted by Lauren (Hilton Honors Representative) reflects changes in the Honors Lifetime Diamond qualifying criteria:

Originally Posted by HonorsRepresentative View Post
Hi all,

A few months ago, we received some great feedback in the Q&A thread with our VP of Hilton HHonors, Aaron Glick. While the team explores a number of initiatives, one area that we could change quickly was our Lifetime Diamond qualifications. As of January 2017, we will grant Lifetime Diamond to all members who have met the following criteria:

Members who have maintained Diamond status for at least 10 years (years do not need to be consecutive)

AND

Have stayed at least 1,000 nights - either paid or reward (as you may know, only paid nights were eligible before)

OR

Have accumulated 2 million Base Points since joining the Hilton HHonors program (this is a new feature to enable more members to enjoy Lifetime Diamond status; also as a reminder, only Base Points are eligible...Bonus Points earned via promotions, co-brand credit cards, or other means do not count towards status)


So now, there will be essentially two ways you can qualify for Lifetime Diamond:
1. 10 years at Diamond with Hilton HHonors + 1,000 nights (including paid and reward)
2. 10 years at Diamond + 2 million cumulative Base Points

An email notification will go out in February to members who have qualified for Lifetime Diamond as of December 31, 2016. If you want a sneak peek to find out if you will qualify, you can contact the Diamond Desk and the team will be happy to help.

Please reach out with any questions or comments, and Ill be sure to share them directly with Aaron and team.

Thank you!
Lauren
Previous:

Details for the first inductees were announced on the 11th Feb. 2015. Erin (HHonors Rep here on FT) posted the announcement shortly before the emails were sent out to members on the same day.

Originally Posted by HHonorsRepresentative View Post
Hi all,

Thanks for your patience as I gathered more details on our Lifetime Diamond rollout. As were in the New Year, I have some additional details to share with you.

Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014:
  • Have maintained Diamond Status for at least 10 years (consecutive or concurrent) and
  • Completed paid stays totaling at least 1,000 nights
Members that met this criteria as of December 31, 2014 will be notified via email and receive their Lifetime Diamond Status in the mail at the physical address on their account at the end of February. Members that meet Lifetime Diamond Status criteria in the middle of the year will receive Lifetime Diamond Status at the beginning of the following year.

Please note that we are in early stages of this benefit, which means that elements of this offering may evolve and may change over time. As I hear of any updates, I will be sure to share those here.

As always, your input is truly valued and we welcome your thoughts and feedback during this launch period. Were here and listening!

Thanks,
Erin
[B]Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014:

All paid stays count not just the paid stays during the years a member is a Hilton HHonors diamond.

As more information becomes available it will be added here. Should you have any updates please post them in the thread or in this wiki to keep the most pertinent info quickly available to those interested.



For those interested, the development unfolded as follows:

Erin, the HHonors rep on FT posted the following on 16/12/2014: (after some eagle eyed attention by adambrock from an email sent out by Hilton and which he thankfully posted here on FT: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...tus-email.html Kudos to adambrock for noticing and sharing it with the community. )

HHonorsRepresentative (Erin) wrote in that thread:

In 2015, HHonors will begin introducing Lifetime Diamond Status! As you may know, were always looking for new ways to reward you and we take into consideration your feedback on ways to recognize our most loyal members. Over the past several years, weve heard from you that Lifetime Diamond Status is important to you and Im thrilled to announce that we will be inviting some of our most tenured Diamond members into this status.

Ill have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!
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Old Jan 20, 15, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by Howste View Post
...how about FT usernames that start with H? Seems just as valid as some of the above?
I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by BlueHenFlyer View Post
If Hilton creates a Lifetime Diamond, a load of those folks will move to IHG as they won't have to stay at Hamptons to make their nut to get a nice stay at the Conrad.
Maybe, maybe not. There are a couple of factors that probably go into setting up an LT status.
  1. Matching your competitors. This is probably one of the primary drivers for Hilton going down this path. When it was only Marriott with an LT program, they probably didn't think it was a driver in stay patterns. But with Marriott plus Starwood and Hyatt with LT benefits, I suspect Hilton believes they could be losing business today. BTW, Marriott recently reduced their LT requirements (fairly substantially), and I'm guessing they did it to keep ahead of the curve on LT programs given their competitors are now adding this benefit.
  2. Short term. I'm guessing a bit, but I suspect that the hotel chains are thinking that LT programs will not only lure people to stay at their programs, but for the near term (i.e. next couple of years) get them to stay more at their hotels to achieve this new benefit. And they are probably banking on the fact that actually only a very few (i.e. very small percentage) will actually ever achieve it. So they can drive up short and near-term business without actually having many actually receive that benefit.

    Yes, out of that very small percentage, there may be some that will jump ship, but see the next bullet below.

  3. Long term. Part of having an LT program at all is the fact that should a few jump ship in the short term, what will their long term stay patterns be? At some point their travel will be such that they either can't maintain the elite status in the other programs, or they again desire benefits they see in other programs. Given they have an LT elite status, they may well end up coming right back as they know this program and they have the LT Diamond.

Don't get blinded by the fact that a higher percentage of folks in the Hilton forum on FT might actually achieve LT status versus the general population staying at Hiltons. The vast majority of those millions will never be able to achieve LT status with any program, but if a program can "hook" them for a couple of years with the lure of LT status? Well, that's just extra revenue for the hotels and Hilton.

*Note that I've had LT Plat status with Marriott for years and am just a few nights short of LT Gold with SPG. But I've had most of my stays with Hilton over the last few years. So I do understand the lure of jumping somewhere else once you have that LT status. But I doubt I'm anywhere close to the norm for most members of Hilton's elite program.
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Old Jan 20, 15, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by BlueHenFlyer View Post
I agree. After being made lifetime Plat at *Wood, I stopped staying there and dropped my Amex. Have shifted entirely to Hilton, largely because it is easier to find hotels in smaller markets (and I hate the aloft chain). If Hilton creates a Lifetime Diamond, a load of those folks will move to IHG as they won't have to stay at Hamptons to make their nut to get a nice stay at the Conrad.
Personally, I've never understood this line of thinking. The point of reaching elite status, IMhO is to enjoy the benefits. Once I hit Diamond for the first time, I REALLY ramped up my HH stays. To this day, I ALWAYS book HH first...Only stay at Marriott in places like HKG where they have affordable properties (the Conrad is out of my company's allowable budget). I have a few Marriott convention stays as well...Other than that, it almost ALL goes to HH--why? Because I'm a diamond--and even at Hamptons (which I have maybe 4-5 nights/year), I often get upgrades.

It's about the destination, not the journey. I don't chase elite status just for the sake of having elite status.

I get Marriott Gold through United. I get IHG Plat through the credit card, and only keep it for the free night every year, which I do use at a $300/night property. I have no desire to move up further in these programs or collect points in them just for the sake of 'spreading it around'. To me, HH works perfectly--between the Grand Wailea, the convenience of the ORD Hilton, some well-placed Embassy Suites in the US and some great Hiltons and Doubletrees in China--I have no desire to boost my status elsewhere.
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Old Jan 20, 15, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by MBS MillionMiler View Post
Personally, I've never understood this line of thinking. The point of reaching elite status, IMhO is to enjoy the benefits. Once I hit Diamond for the first time, I REALLY ramped up my HH stays. To this day, I ALWAYS book HH first...Only stay at Marriott in places like HKG where they have affordable properties (the Conrad is out of my company's allowable budget). I have a few Marriott convention stays as well...Other than that, it almost ALL goes to HH--why? Because I'm a diamond--and even at Hamptons (which I have maybe 4-5 nights/year), I often get upgrades.

It's about the destination, not the journey. I don't chase elite status just for the sake of having elite status.

I get Marriott Gold through United. I get IHG Plat through the credit card, and only keep it for the free night every year, which I do use at a $300/night property. I have no desire to move up further in these programs or collect points in them just for the sake of 'spreading it around'. To me, HH works perfectly--between the Grand Wailea, the convenience of the ORD Hilton, some well-placed Embassy Suites in the US and some great Hiltons and Doubletrees in China--I have no desire to boost my status elsewhere.
I agree - the point of getting elite status is so you get treated better. I got over collecting "merit badges" decades ago. I'm Starwood LT Plat and I still stay there because they treat me well. Also have Marriott through UA and I'm some sort of legacy Diamond with HH even though my stays are well below that level and have been for a few years. But I was a Diamond for over a decade before their devaluations and the relatively much better treatment from Starwood got most of my stays moved there. If they give me official LT Diamond that would be nice but I do have access to Gold via a credit card in any case. But no matter which program, at least for me, the point is the better treatment rather than the check mark - particularly now that I am retired and traveling on my own dime.
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Old Jan 20, 15, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by pdx1M View Post
But no matter which program, at least for me, the point is the better treatment rather than the check mark - particularly now that I am retired and traveling on my own dime.
I don't necessarily disagree, but with Marriott LT Plat and quite a large bundle of points with Marriott, I noticed that there wasn't a Marriott in Searcy, AR where my son was (there is a Hampton Inn though.) And I noticed that the Sheraton 4Pts in College Station was much easier to get with much fewer points (even considering program point differentials). I realized that having points in a few different programs was very helpful and beneficial. Also, considering that I was able to get a status match from Marriott to SPG and then through work a status upgrade with Hilton to Gold, I could have elite status instantly with each of them AND have points built up in each.

But there will come a day, possibly within the next couple of years, where I will settle down with one main program. And I am almost certain when that happens, the one I have the highest LT status will be that program.
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Old Jan 20, 15, 12:47 pm
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I agree, you earn diamond status for the benefits, and as a result I also put 90% of stays Hilton way, you get into the programme. The other stays are typically because Hilton "doesn't fit", but given preference I always use the brand.
As a result, it is a fair expectation to be treated well. It cant be amazing every time, but it should be above the norm at least. It pains me when it isn't!!
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Old Jan 29, 15, 4:24 pm
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Erin -

Any update on this?

"Ill have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!"
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Old Jan 29, 15, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by milesmilesmiles
Erin -

Any update on this?

"Ill have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!"
Early 2015 to the hhonors program means April or May so check back in June please.
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Old Jan 29, 15, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by milesmilesmiles View Post
Erin -

Any update on this?

"Ill have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!"
Hi milesmilesmiles,

Not yet, but as soon as I'm provided more info you all will be the first to know!

Cheers,
Erin
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Old Feb 7, 15, 7:24 am
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Nope, I haven't heard anything either, but I did just get a copy of my Lifetime Points from HHonors, so I am keen to see how close / far away I am from getting this !

As it stands, I am sitting on 140 lifetime stays; 360 lifetime nights; 2.3 million total points; and just over 1 million Base Points.

Fingers and most other appendages are now crossed !
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Old Feb 7, 15, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by Rickers View Post
Nope, I haven't heard anything either, but I did just get a copy of my Lifetime Points from HHonors, so I am keen to see how close / far away I am from getting this !

As it stands, I am sitting on 140 lifetime stays; 360 lifetime nights; 2.3 million total points; and just over 1 million Base Points.

Fingers and most other appendages are now crossed !
How did you get this? Did it come in the mail/e-mail?
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Old Feb 7, 15, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by Michael19887 View Post
How did you get this? Did it come in the mail/e-mail?
Likely they just asked via email for the info like the rest of us. Send a quick email to the DD and you'll have an answer back in no time IME.
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Old Feb 7, 15, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by BotB View Post
Likely they just asked via email for the info like the rest of us. Send a quick email to the DD and you'll have an answer back in no time IME.
I've asked for my lifetime stats as recently as a few weeks ago, and DD agent only could see my lifetime stays/nights. I was more interested that he had lifetime points and base points info. I'll try again though..maybe the DD agents have that info now.
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Old Feb 7, 15, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by BotB View Post
Likely they just asked via email for the info like the rest of us. Send a quick email to the DD and you'll have an answer back in no time IME.
Yeah, that's what I asked, but the DD said they couldn't access the information for me about total Base Points ...... they requested a hard copy, and that's what arrived in the post today --- a print out of every transaction for 11 years !!
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Old Feb 7, 15, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Rickers View Post
Yeah, that's what I asked, but the DD said they couldn't access the information for me about total Base Points ...... they requested a hard copy, and that's what arrived in the post today --- a print out of every transaction for 11 years !!
How long from request to arrival of the print out?
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Old Feb 8, 15, 2:57 am
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Originally Posted by jmd001 View Post
How long from request to arrival of the print out?
I just checked my emails to find out ......... I requested this on Christmas Eve, so it took them 6 weeks !

Even allowing for the holidays, that's not exactly super-quick, but it is super-comprehensive.
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