FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Hilton | Hilton Honors (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilton-hilton-honors-417/)
-   -   2013 Changes to HH Reward Stays, new cat., more pts needed (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilton-hilton-honors/1440180-2013-changes-hh-reward-stays-new-cat-more-pts-needed.html)

Seabilly Feb 19, 13 1:53 pm

2013 Changes to HH Reward Stays, new cat., more pts needed
 
Got this email today

Dear Valued Guest,

For more than 25 years, Hilton HHonors™ has strived to deliver a world-class guest loyalty program to our 34 million members. Our members have more reward options, like Premium Room Rewards, Premium Upgrade Rewards and Points & Money Rewards™ and on-property benefits than ever before.

As HHonors continues to evolve, there are changes we would like to share with you. Please take a moment to learn about these important changes to the Hilton HHonors guest loyalty program, including changes to our Standard Room Reward categories and the introduction of seasonal hotel reward pricing.

Following the link provided you get

Since the Hilton HHonors™ program began more than 25 years ago, there are more opportunities for members to earn and redeem points than ever before. Now members can redeem points for any room, any time, anywhere at more than 3,900 hotels and resorts worldwide. Plus, members can get to reward stays faster with Points & Money Rewards™. To ensure that we continue to be a world-class guest loyalty program, changes to our program need to be made from time to time. As of March 28, 2013 the following changes will go into effect.



Reward Categories – We will be expanding to ten hotel reward categories to account for all of the new hotels and resorts that have opened in the past few years. With 3,900 hotels and resorts in 90 countries you are sure to find the perfect place for your next reward stay.
Seasonal Hotel Reward Pricing – For most of our hotels and resorts, we will introduce seasonal pricing for reward stays. The amount of points needed for a Standard Room Reward and a Points & Money Reward will vary during certain times of the year.
5th Night Free – Now members with Silver, Gold or Diamond elite status will get a free night* when they book a Standard Room Reward stay of five or more consecutive nights.

According to the FAQ,

When do the new changes become effective? What happens if I want to book a reward stay before they are effective? Can I make modifications to existing reservations after they become effective?

The new changes will become effective as of 12:01AM CST on Mar 28, 2013. Until this time, you can redeem Points for rewards stays at the current prices. You can book online, call +1-800-HHONORS (+1-800-446-6677, toll-free in the United States) or contact your local Hilton Reservations and Customer Care center. After this date, you can continue to make modifications; however, all standard room redemptions will follow the new standard room chart. Therefore, if the number of points changes from what was originally booked, up or down, the new point values will apply.

jjglaze77 Feb 19, 13 1:55 pm

STANDARD ROOM REWARDS
HOTEL CATEGORY HHONORS POINTS REQUIRED FOR ONE FREE NIGHT
1 5,000 Points
2 10,000 Points
3 20,000 Points
4 20,000 to 30,000 Points
5 30,000 to 40,000 Points
6 30,000 to 50,000 Points
7 30,000 to 60,000 Points
8 40,000 to 70,000 Points
9 50,000 to 80,000 Points
10 70,000 to 95,000 Points

Just saw this as well. Ouch. Was looking at a Seychelles redemption that was 50k / night, now 95k.

Forget Skypesos, HHonors Points are more akin to Zimbabwean Dollars!

sdix Feb 19, 13 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by jjglaze77 (Post 20277657)
STANDARD ROOM REWARDS
HOTEL CATEGORY HHONORS POINTS REQUIRED FOR ONE FREE NIGHT
1 5,000 Points
2 10,000 Points
3 20,000 Points
4 20,000 to 30,000 Points
5 30,000 to 40,000 Points
6 30,000 to 50,000 Points
7 30,000 to 60,000 Points
8 40,000 to 70,000 Points
9 50,000 to 80,000 Points
10 70,000 to 95,000 Points

Just saw this as well. Ouch. Was looking at a Seychelles redemption that was 50k / night, now 95k.

Forget Skypesos, HHonors Points are more akin to Zimbabwean Dollars!

Ouch..... Devaluation at its finest. Clearly determined to reduce the 35 million members......

flyertalk77 Feb 19, 13 2:06 pm

I wish I hadn't seen this post. I'm getting sick.
I guess we'll have our summer vacation in March this year.

Notenut Feb 19, 13 2:06 pm

I wonder how many/which hotels will cost 5K and 10K points per night?

musikdude Feb 19, 13 2:07 pm

How will this affect VIP awards ??

Or the Amex AXON award??

I could not find anything about either at first glance...

Overall, a sad day... :(

Dovster Feb 19, 13 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by Notenut (Post 20277738)
I wonder how many/which hotels will cost 5K and 10K points per night?

Two: The newest Hampton Inn (formerly the Bates Motel) and the Hanoi Hilton (the original one -- not the Hilton Hanoi Opera).

cs1985 Feb 19, 13 2:11 pm

ridiculous

from 50k to 95k

goodbye HILTON !!!!!

Drathen Feb 19, 13 2:11 pm

It still amazes me how much the HHonors reward program has changed (for the worse) since I first became a Diamond member in 2005. Back then the maximum reward stay was 40k points and it was easy to find a hotel that was 15-25k per night. It seems like every year it takes more and more points to book the same reward stay as last year.

A couple of months ago I had 240k reward points and I used them to book two rooms for three nights in June at the Hampton Inn in Jackson, WY (40k points x 6 nights = 240k points). I checked the seasonal points pricing for this hotel based on the change announced today and if I were to book those two rooms today it would've required 360k points... unbelivable!

christianj Feb 19, 13 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by jjglaze77 (Post 20277657)
STANDARD ROOM REWARDS
HOTEL CATEGORY HHONORS POINTS REQUIRED FOR ONE FREE NIGHT
1 5,000 Points
2 10,000 Points
3 20,000 Points
4 20,000 to 30,000 Points
5 30,000 to 40,000 Points
6 30,000 to 50,000 Points
7 30,000 to 60,000 Points
8 40,000 to 70,000 Points
9 50,000 to 80,000 Points
10 70,000 to 95,000 Points

Just saw this as well. Ouch. Was looking at a Seychelles redemption that was 50k / night, now 95k.

Forget Skypesos, HHonors Points are more akin to Zimbabwean Dollars!

Where did you get these numbers? Those increases would be the worst of the bunch so far....and I thought MR and PC were bad.

I think the tacos I had for lunch are going to show themselves again! :eek: I guess they all think that now is the time to do it since the others have already released bad news. Hopefully SPG won't be next with changes like this.

Notenut Feb 19, 13 2:15 pm

Actually I don't think it's that much of a dramatic change from the current levels:

CAT. HH Points
1 7,500
2 12,500
3 25,000
4 30,000
5 35,000
6 40,000
7 50,000
Waldorf Astoria™ Hotels & Resorts 50,000–80,000

It's just giving a range in each category, probably based on availability. What remains to be seen is how many hotels will jump to the 2 highest levels; and are these levels all for 'standard' rooms, or does the spread take into account upgraded rooms. Until we get more details I'm not running out to proclaim Woe Are Us quite yet, but I might later on.

LASUA1K Feb 19, 13 2:16 pm

I left Hilton years ago, so happy I did.

pcsanity Feb 19, 13 2:19 pm

One more reason I am glad that I gave the final wave to HHonors as my primary prorgam. The reality is, this devaluation is something to think about, but also given the introduction of the "premium" awards, it has been very difficult to find nice redemptions in many places anyways.

TallestHotelInJapan Feb 19, 13 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by cs1985 (Post 20277780)
ridiculous

from 50k to 95k

goodbye HILTON !!!!!


Also for me, goodbye Hilton. I reduced my stays with Hilton already dramatically because of many things which are no longer good for me. But this gives me the final upchuck!

pinniped Feb 19, 13 2:21 pm

Wow...this makes the 2009 devaluation, as well as pretty much all other hotel program devaluations over the years, look mild by comparison. :td:


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 4:07 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.