2013 Changes to HH Reward Stays, new cat., more pts needed
Feb 19, 2013, 3:50 pm
#121
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 131
Rome Cavalieri will be 70,000 - 80,000 (depending on the month)
Bora Bora will be 95,000
Koh Samui = 95,000
*vomit*
Bora Bora will be 95,000
Koh Samui = 95,000
*vomit*
Feb 19, 2013, 3:51 pm
#122
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I love when they post these changes and make the file so user friendly. Who the hell looks for a property by its name? Why not publish the list by state/city and country/city for foreign properties? Oh wait....because that would be too easy and we would quickly be able to look up the changes.
Feb 19, 2013, 3:51 pm
#123
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It seems that the industry-wide business model is changing a bit...moving away from the emphasis on loyalty programs and elite benefits. Maybe the brands have concluded that we (the group attracted to such programs) aren't as profitable as once thought.
Feb 19, 2013, 3:54 pm
#124
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: HHonor Dia, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 550
SPG and Marriott have both already announced devaluations in the past month or so. Both were milder than this one.
It seems that the industry-wide business model is changing a bit...moving away from the emphasis on loyalty programs and elite benefits. Maybe the brands have concluded that we (the group attracted to such programs) aren't as profitable as once thought.
It seems that the industry-wide business model is changing a bit...moving away from the emphasis on loyalty programs and elite benefits. Maybe the brands have concluded that we (the group attracted to such programs) aren't as profitable as once thought.
They announced not too long ago, they were going to have one in mid-Feb i believe.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:02 pm
#125
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bay Area
Programs: HH, PC, SPG, MR, GP, US, UA, AA
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Feb 19, 2013, 4:03 pm
#126
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Los Angeles
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I dont understand why people are so shocked at this devaluation...
Obviously Hilton had to respond once Marriott announced their horrific changes. They cant let Marriott beat them!
I'm glad order in the world is restored and Hilton has regained their crown.
Obviously Hilton had to respond once Marriott announced their horrific changes. They cant let Marriott beat them!
I'm glad order in the world is restored and Hilton has regained their crown.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:05 pm
#127
Join Date: May 2006
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Posts: 731
SPG and Marriott have both already announced devaluations in the past month or so. Both were milder than this one.
It seems that the industry-wide business model is changing a bit...moving away from the emphasis on loyalty programs and elite benefits. Maybe the brands have concluded that we (the group attracted to such programs) aren't as profitable as once thought.
It seems that the industry-wide business model is changing a bit...moving away from the emphasis on loyalty programs and elite benefits. Maybe the brands have concluded that we (the group attracted to such programs) aren't as profitable as once thought.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:05 pm
#128
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Feb 19, 2013, 4:05 pm
#129
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These changes are more like IHG's changes, just like IHG points are more like HHonors points that Marriott points.
To use the PDF, hit the search button "binoculars" and then type in the Category desired, clicking exact match -- you will pull up what hotels are in what categories.
Also, contrary to what has been stated, all inclusive hotels still seem to exist -- not sure what the rate will be, however.
To use the PDF, hit the search button "binoculars" and then type in the Category desired, clicking exact match -- you will pull up what hotels are in what categories.
Also, contrary to what has been stated, all inclusive hotels still seem to exist -- not sure what the rate will be, however.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:06 pm
#130
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I think their wording is clear as mud. I also read it that even if I don't modify an existing reservation the new rates will apply if I redeem after March 28th. (or am I misunderstanding "redeeming"? to me it is actually staying there, not reserving). Think I'll have to call in to see what they say.
And, unecessarily worrying readers!!!
Feb 19, 2013, 4:08 pm
#131
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SEA
Programs: AS; Hyatt Globalist; Hilton Gold; NEXUS
Posts: 979
What a load of BS. I was just about to book a few revenue stays but that isn't happening any longer. I have 400,000 points on the books right now as a gold... looks like I'll be burning through them. I've got the Hilton AMEX and Citi Visa that I use as my two exclusive credit cards. I'll be shopping for a new card tonight.
This is the kind of stuff that is pushing me towards being loyal to a reseller like Hotels.com or Priceline instead of an actual chain like Hilton. That path doesn't get me status, but that's almost worthless nowadays save for a small handful of properties that give you benefits commensurate with your status level. It also gives you infinite flexibility to book stays at any hotel you want almost anywhere.
This is the kind of stuff that is pushing me towards being loyal to a reseller like Hotels.com or Priceline instead of an actual chain like Hilton. That path doesn't get me status, but that's almost worthless nowadays save for a small handful of properties that give you benefits commensurate with your status level. It also gives you infinite flexibility to book stays at any hotel you want almost anywhere.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:09 pm
#132
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Looking to spend a couple of nights in London this Fall, and was planning on either the Hilton Park Lane or Green Park (there are three of us).
Last time I checked there was plenty of availability, so I dithered while deciding.
When I got the email, I quickly hied off to hilton.com. Ugh.
Park Lane - no availability (a room for 2 is still 50K, though).
Green Park - rooms availabile, but "Premium" rate only, 72K+. Since we have to stay somewhere, I bit the bullet and booked it.
Having dumped Marriott, it's now Hilton's turn, and I'm back to Choice (who?) where we've had some very nice vacation stays in Europe at 8-10K/night.
Last time I checked there was plenty of availability, so I dithered while deciding.
When I got the email, I quickly hied off to hilton.com. Ugh.
Park Lane - no availability (a room for 2 is still 50K, though).
Green Park - rooms availabile, but "Premium" rate only, 72K+. Since we have to stay somewhere, I bit the bullet and booked it.
Having dumped Marriott, it's now Hilton's turn, and I'm back to Choice (who?) where we've had some very nice vacation stays in Europe at 8-10K/night.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:09 pm
#133
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,396
And to think, I'm sitting here waiting for my new Citi HHonors card in the mail.
When I signed up, I though It would put me in line for an AXON award. Now I'll be lucky to get 2 free nights.
Time to shift more spend to the SPG card. Even with 6 points / $ - I think I'd rather have one SPG point.
When I signed up, I though It would put me in line for an AXON award. Now I'll be lucky to get 2 free nights.
Time to shift more spend to the SPG card. Even with 6 points / $ - I think I'd rather have one SPG point.
Feb 19, 2013, 4:11 pm
#134
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Feb 19, 2013, 4:13 pm
#135
Join Date: Jun 2006
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What a load of BS. I was just about to book a few revenue stays but that isn't happening any longer. I have 400,000 points on the books right now as a gold... looks like I'll be burning through them. I've got the Hilton AMEX and Citi Visa that I use as my two exclusive credit cards. I'll be shopping for a new card tonight.
This is the kind of stuff that is pushing me towards being loyal to a reseller like Hotels.com or Priceline instead of an actual chain like Hilton. That path doesn't get me status, but that's almost worthless nowadays save for a small handful of properties that give you benefits commensurate with your status level. It also gives you infinite flexibility to book stays at any hotel you want almost anywhere.
This is the kind of stuff that is pushing me towards being loyal to a reseller like Hotels.com or Priceline instead of an actual chain like Hilton. That path doesn't get me status, but that's almost worthless nowadays save for a small handful of properties that give you benefits commensurate with your status level. It also gives you infinite flexibility to book stays at any hotel you want almost anywhere.
Trust Me!!
