2013 Changes to HH Reward Stays, new cat., more pts needed
Apr 5, 2013, 12:36 pm
#1111
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: somewhere in F, hopefully
Posts: 670
I am in your boat. Just moved to Hilton after a platinum status match/challenge. Now Diamond. Still in all, I like Hilton's properties and service much better, so I will be staying. Besides, few Starwoods or Hyatts in most of the areas I frequent...
Apr 8, 2013, 11:15 pm
#1112
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 48
Just noticed this. Diamond here. Glad I burned my points at the Conrad Tokyo last year. Been moving all my stays to Hyatt. Top cat(6) = 22k. 1k bonus amenity for diamonds too.
Apr 11, 2013, 4:49 am
#1113
Join Date: Apr 2013
Programs: Hilton HHonors
Posts: 2
Hilton HHonors Members
Guys. Guess you all know rewards are just that, rewards and redemption is only available on any scheme to suit the company offering the redemption... NOT the collector of the rewards... Brands are not loyal to you, why be loyal to them. Shop around, it is your buying power that dictates offers.. Book redemption rooms then rates go up for other punters, don't book then they will have to bring their rates /points levels down to get business,. if you are all cosy in visiting a group / company just because you get a free breakfast or drink in the lounge...just be aware YOU are paying for it one way or another... my advice, shop around, loyalty hmmmm I don't think so.... Was an ex hotelier, believe me I know.... By all means stick to one particular brand but boy do you pay for it and the recent increase in HHpoints is testament to that... PS if anyone wants to transfer their points to little ole me.... happy to receive them and try to buck the system so if you are NOT using them, do let me know.... Thanks 
Apr 11, 2013, 5:18 am
#1114
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: LH SEN, FB Plat., HH D.
Posts: 5,050
Guys. Guess you all know rewards are just that, rewards and redemption is only available on any scheme to suit the company offering the redemption... NOT the collector of the rewards... Brands are not loyal to you, why be loyal to them. Shop around, it is your buying power that dictates offers.. Book redemption rooms then rates go up for other punters, don't book then they will have to bring their rates /points levels down to get business,. if you are all cosy in visiting a group / company just because you get a free breakfast or drink in the lounge...just be aware YOU are paying for it one way or another... my advice, shop around, loyalty hmmmm I don't think so.... Was an ex hotelier, believe me I know.... By all means stick to one particular brand but boy do you pay for it and the recent increase in HHpoints is testament to that... PS if anyone wants to transfer their points to little ole me.... happy to receive them and try to buck the system so if you are NOT using them, do let me know.... Thanks
Apr 11, 2013, 3:44 pm
#1115
Formerly known as cagalindo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MCO TPA
Programs: Citi AA/HH/TYP Amex SPG/HH & Chase SP/PC
Posts: 1,335
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May 23, 2013, 5:32 pm
#1116
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: PDX USA
Programs: HH Diamond
Posts: 320
What a Rip-Off
I've been Diamond for several years but I'm beginning to wonder if it means anything.
I just stayed at an HGI in DC and then then at a Hampton NYC - North Times Square @ 40K per night - this was just a few weeks ago.
If I read the new charts correctly they have DOUBLED the points for these properties. At first I thought it was just during vacation period so I ran a mock reservation for the exact same dates I stayed last month in 2014 and sure enough, the hotels were now 80K per night.
WHAT is going on????
I just stayed at an HGI in DC and then then at a Hampton NYC - North Times Square @ 40K per night - this was just a few weeks ago.
If I read the new charts correctly they have DOUBLED the points for these properties. At first I thought it was just during vacation period so I ran a mock reservation for the exact same dates I stayed last month in 2014 and sure enough, the hotels were now 80K per night.
WHAT is going on????
May 23, 2013, 5:57 pm
#1117
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
I've been Diamond for several years but I'm beginning to wonder if it means anything.
I just stayed at an HGI in DC and then then at a Hampton NYC - North Times Square @ 40K per night - this was just a few weeks ago.
If I read the new charts correctly they have DOUBLED the points for these properties. At first I thought it was just during vacation period so I ran a mock reservation for the exact same dates I stayed last month in 2014 and sure enough, the hotels were now 80K per night.
WHAT is going on????
I just stayed at an HGI in DC and then then at a Hampton NYC - North Times Square @ 40K per night - this was just a few weeks ago.
If I read the new charts correctly they have DOUBLED the points for these properties. At first I thought it was just during vacation period so I ran a mock reservation for the exact same dates I stayed last month in 2014 and sure enough, the hotels were now 80K per night.
WHAT is going on????
I should bring you up to date then. In other news, Obama got elected twice, the Red Sox finally won the world series again, and Neil Armstrong landed on the moon
May 23, 2013, 6:07 pm
#1118
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Hilton - Diamond / Marriott - Platinum / SPG - Platinum / Priority Club - Platinum
Posts: 359
May 23, 2013, 6:30 pm
#1120
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: SLC
Programs: DL FO, KM, & 1.7MM; UA nothing; HH♦; National EE
Posts: 6,344
I'm staying in SLC tonight for 20k. Am I slumming it?
May 23, 2013, 6:35 pm
#1121
Join Date: May 2013
Programs: HHonors Diamond AA Platinum
Posts: 301
As a long time Hilton Honors member (since 2002), I am moving past them and considering other options. I understand that most are getting more and more devalued and they are not alone, but for our trips, we are struggling to keep up the way we used to. I have the credit card (Citi Signature), but as reward member of Marriott also, as well as a cardholder of their Chase card, we find that we are getting more bang for the buck there.
They are all so devalued now, I am starting to wonder if any of them are worth it outside of the brands like LaQuinta.
They are all so devalued now, I am starting to wonder if any of them are worth it outside of the brands like LaQuinta.
Jul 2, 2013, 4:35 pm
#1123
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 11
surprised at how poor hhonors redemption is.
I'm sure I'm not the only one complaining but just needed to vent. Been staying at both hampton and holiday inn properties over the last year. Earned 45k at Hilton and 50k at priority club. Decided to use some of the points to take a little vacation. Checked rates at both hotels in town and in both cases they were about $140/night. The difference is that the holiday inn cost 15k in points per night but the Hampton costs 50k per night. I was able to book 3 free nights at holiday inn but couldn't even book a single night at Hampton. The properties are very comparable. This was my first time redeeming rewards points so kinda shocked at how many honors points are required. Looks like ill choose Hilton properties in the future.
Jul 2, 2013, 4:42 pm
#1124
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
We recently experienced a huge points devaluation - your observations are quite accurate. There are several threads dealing with new award requirements, including AXON awards, etc. and I recommend looking them over - I am sure some will be found in the first few pages.
Some of us are assuming Blackstone is fattening the calf before selling it off. (They paid $26 billion - bet they want more than that.)
Some of us are assuming Blackstone is fattening the calf before selling it off. (They paid $26 billion - bet they want more than that.)
Last edited by JDiver; Jul 4, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Jul 2, 2013, 6:21 pm
#1125
In Memoriam
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 35,555
For now, IHG Reward points are "more valuable" for the room redemption and for the casual traveler; IHG is a better deal.
I suspect the new programs with IHG will level the playing field.
A recent stay at Hampton earned me 7910 points sand 2116 Delta Miles; the casual traveler would have received 1540 points and 100 Delta Miles.
I suspect the new programs with IHG will level the playing field.
A recent stay at Hampton earned me 7910 points sand 2116 Delta Miles; the casual traveler would have received 1540 points and 100 Delta Miles.
Last edited by underpressure; Jul 2, 2013 at 6:26 pm