My res info that beat Hiltons lowest
 

I would like it if those who found a lower rate would post it here after they got Hilton to change it for them, so that others may also get it.
Ill start but awaiting offical conformation from Hilton, was told they would but they are really behind as they didnt expect that there were so many out there.

Deerfeild Beach,FL 12/14-12/15
[email protected] $63.60 at Orbitz or Travelweb.com

this way any one can see the res and if they are able thay too can grab it. A friend who read the posts on the other thread about Ham Inn Tropicana in Vegas was going nuts trying to find those rates and the lower web site. So why NOT help each other out.

PLEASE use this thread just for the particulars of your stay, lets avoid questions or get togethers so that the thread will be easier to use THANKS

I had originally typed my response - 50K points using the ACAQ Promo and the Best Rate Guarantee for under 100 bucks and my strategy for it, but then I deleted it because I don't think its necessarily a good idea to post our stays and what we've done and how we've done it because I'm sure Hilton people read this site this is a really great method to get super-cheap hotel stays when you get your 50 bucks back from them.

In it's initial roll-out, I'm sure they're reading these sites and making certain that their hotels will be in compliance very soon. They're probably willing to spend the 50/stay to find out where their problems are (by monitoring claims and websites like this) and then in a few months, it'll all be over once all their hotels have reached compliance levels. I would recommend that if you find a claim, you just do it on your own.

I've made 5 claims at different hotels and will get the 50K ACAQ promo for under 100 bucks, but at the same time, I'm not interested in publicizing the faults because I could benefit from these same hotels later - I was even thinking about doubling it up setting up 2 accounts and getting 100K HH points for under 200 bucks, but that's more effort than I'm willing to put forth.

Just my 2 cents...

yea I think Hilton does look over here. But hea once you make the claim they will know about it anyway, only there still might be some time for others to get it B4 its no longer available.
I made my claim on Friday and just checked and the pricing I found is still there. So why NOT help others. Keep in mind theres a disclaimer that says Hilton can pull it at any time.

Enough said lets keep this to dates/sites/and hotels which can be had.

[This message has been edited by craz (edited Dec 08, 2003).]

I agree with everything you just said, but once people start posting how to get the 50K for under 100 bucks or once say 50 people in the same local market book rooms at the same hotel to qualify for the promo, it could make them pull future promos like that in the future. I think the majority of FT'ers have the ability and knowledge to make this work for them.

I will start by stating that for my reservations, I wasn't to successful finding lower rates on Travelocity or Expedia, however Orbitz, Travelweb, and Hotels.com seemed to have lower rates for the majority of the hotels I picked. I also noticed that after I had submitted one of my claims, 2 days later, the rates weren't there (not just on that particular date, but on various dates which they originally were there). I'm sure for every guarantee that's filled, the hotels get notified (as it is listed in the changed reservation if you look at your reservations on Hilton.com). But if a hotel gets lots of claims in a short amount of time, it will incent them to change their rates faster. Whereas if they only get a few requests over a long period of time and they are still gettig a significant amount of revenue from the other booking channel (i.e. hotels.com), then they may figure it'd be worth it to swallow the 50 bucks every few weeks to get those extra 10 rooms they wouldn't have otherwise gotten had they had a higher rate.

Again, just my 2 cents...

Many will say the "spirit" of FlyerTalk is to "share the wealth", so to speak, even if the more that wealth is shared, the more likely the pot of gold will be withdrawn.

When airlines pull $20 international fare or resort hotels $20 a night boners, if only a few dozen people jump on them, well chances are the airlines might let it slide. But when someone posts it and then a few thousand jump...

Of course, some businesses "do the right thing" and honor the fare (British Airways, for example) while others decline (the Bora Bora incident).

SEA_Tigger,

I can't tell whether you agree or disagree with me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I understand (and completely agree) that one of the best benefits of Flyertalk is sharing the wealth. I have benefited, like every other person that uses FT, from Flyertalk (otherwise we all wouldn't be here). But like many people, I don't think its always wise to post all the tricks of travel.

Certainly the Mileage Run forum has some of the best travel deals ever posted, but in reality, the really good ones, such as the ones where you can get 25K+ EQMS for under 500 bucks, aren't always posted - may they are posted once because someone has figured out an amazing thing (ex. Baht Run).

Everyone here knows how to find a hotel on Expedia or Travelocity or Hotels.com and comparison shop. The tools are there. For the most part, we all know how to find and price hotel room stays - specifics (a.k.a. identifiers) aren't necessary.

Just my 2 cents...

Edited to add (as well as formatting) - that certain promos, such as the 50K, comped Gold, in my opnion are good promos have information spread about from the hotel's stand point. Airlines are different than hotels when it comes to hotels - there are only so many airline choices out there that you can fly on - whereas with hotels, there are a ton of options and that extra 1-2 points per dollar spent is minimal in terms of cost in relation to what a comped Gold can bring in terms of revenue. If I had Gold Status with Hilton (comped) and no status with Marriott, SPG, Hyatt, or any other hotelier, I would probably stay at a Hilton over any other property based on the fact that there's the smallest hope for an upgrade, even though my stay may only be for 1 night while in transit. Those are promos that increase revenue, the best rate guarantees (and the Baht Runs & Bora Bora & $20 fares to Europe) don't increase revenue, they decrease it. Which is why its not necessary to share specifics.

Edited to remove a sentence that didn't need to be made public.

[This message has been edited by bhatnasx (edited Dec 09, 2003).]

bhatnasx;
you missed my point!. My friend saw the rates that were posted for H.I. Tropicana in Vegas then spent over an hour trying to find those rates and a site that was cheaper. He didnt for his days of choice but could have and would have used the dates that the others got had he known what they were. He's NOT tied down to any specific date(s).
This might be the case elsewhere where people need a mattress run to maintain or achieve status and theres a Hilton prop nearby that will do.Why shouldn't they get it rather than pay more, or they might have a res at 1 prop cause it was cheaper now with this another prop will be cheaper.
No where did I indicate that people should say they got or will get there 4 stays for the promo this way.All one had to do was post the info so others could GAIN. I guess my rates hadnt changed yet since Hilton had NOT as yet(over 36 hrs since I submitted the form) changed my rate. So I hope that posting what I did someone/others were able to benefit.

By the way how did you find out about the 50G/25G promos? Did you find it here on FT? and signed up cause you found it here, if so the guy who posted it has to be an idiot according to your reasoning in the above posts. I dont think he was/is but he wanted to share what he found with others.As I do and would like to help others not waste their time if I can help it. Just cause a certain hotel can be found lower on x date doesnt mean its the case a day B4 or after, so why not provide the info so others can gain.

[This message has been edited by craz (edited Dec 08, 2003).]

It could be that your friend didn't get the rates because the hotel had already changed the rates. It could have been that 25 others (non-posters, lurkers, locals going for the promo) in that first hour after posting, got the same rate and all submitted their claim and the hotel was immediately notified (50 bucks off a stay in a destiniation town like vegas - if I had 3 nights there, I'd book 2 separate stays and do the middle night somewhere else - I'd rather blow my money on gambling.) The promo is new - when I submitted my claims, I was told that they were well behind their 24 hour claim window because of the number of claims and also that the managers that were responsible for verifying the claims were working from home because the verification is done out of the corporate office which is only open M-F).

I understand what you were saying and in all honesty, I agree with it - spread the joy, spread the wealth, but sometimes things are better left unspread.

Edited to add - see my post above in regards to the Gold Promo - You posted while I was typing that.

also to add that if you noticed the links I provided above, I started one of them - the Amtrak Discount Thread - all I'm saying is that tools should be made available, which they are, but specifics are not always necessary - how many times have there been really amazing fares on Mileage Run and within hours they are gone?


[This message has been edited by bhatnasx (edited Dec 08, 2003).]

Craz -

Because of what I posted
here, what I explained above happened. This is a perfect example of my own argument. I shouldn't have given hulagirl_t that information over a Flyertalk message board, I should have, if necessary, given her that information in a private e-mail. Now a program that was truly beneficial no longer exists.

I guess a little of both. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif For me, it comes down to a question of "killing the goose that laid the golden eggs".

While it is nice that people make these great deals available, there must (and has) come a point where the aggregate financial...penalties...become so great that the company just has to pull the plug, regardless of the negative publicity (like Bora Bora, where people booked weeks of stays throughout the year).

So I can understand the desire to, if not keep these deals "secret", to not go out of one's way making them known so as to jeopardize the deal, period.

Of course, this topic has been debated long, hard, and passionately many a time in FlyerTalk. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Well so far all that everyone was afraid of seems to be ONLY their own shaddow(NOT that it wont change).

OK since my stay was for this coming Sun as I posted above, I called guest assistance and asked to speak with the supervisor who was assigned my claim. I did and on the spot(was put on hold a few times) she confirmed the lower price and sent an email confirming the new lower rate as wellas that after the stay is complete a $50 Amex check will be sent to my home.
Checked both yesterday and just now 24 hrs later and both Hilton.com still has the same rates and Orbitz & or Travelweb still show their lower rates. so much for the doomsday thoughts.

By the way DoubleTree in KeyWest,Fl is $99@ Hilton.com and $89.10 @ Orbitz/Travelweb for another claim that was honored and processed.

staying at the Homewood suites in Charlotte NC on 12/13/03 on hilton site 79.00 a night On Rayjrtravel.com 59.95 a night