Mar 1, 2015, 7:45 pm
Making sense of Hilton reward options [UPDATED January 2017]
Apr 22, 2018, 5:46 pm
#346
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As long as you have the necessary points in hand (or are willing to risk availability disappearing/prices going up between cancelling one award & the points reappearing in your account), there's no problem. I did this for a European stay last fall & likewise shaved points off an upcoming stay in San Francisco.
Apr 23, 2018, 2:29 pm
#347
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: flyover country
Posts: 2,435
As long as you have the necessary points in hand (or are willing to risk availability disappearing/prices going up between cancelling one award & the points reappearing in your account), there's no problem. I did this for a European stay last fall & likewise shaved points off an upcoming stay in San Francisco.
Jun 15, 2018, 9:09 am
#348
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,975
Under the current rules, on Points & Money bookings, does the Money part earn points? I suspect that for a booking I'm considering, separate bookings of a night on points and a paid night would be better, but I'm curious about that matter.
Jun 15, 2018, 10:10 am
#349
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Members will earn Points for combined Points and money Reward Stays on any money spent on eligible folio charges at Waldorf Astoria® Hotels & Resorts Hotels, Conrad® Hotels and Resorts, Canopy™ by Hilton, Hilton Hotels and Resorts, Curio - A Collection by Hilton, DoubleTree by Hilton™, Tapestry Collection by Hilton™, Embassy Suites™, Hilton Garden Inn® and Hilton Grand Vacations®. Members will earn Points for incidental charges only for full Points Reward Stays at Waldorf Astoria® Hotels & Resorts Hotels, Conrad® Hotels and Resorts, Canopy™ by Hilton, Hilton Hotels and Resorts, Curio - A Collection by Hilton, DoubleTree by Hilton™, Tapestry Collection by Hilton™, Embassy Suites™, Hilton Garden Inn® and Hilton Grand Vacations®. Members will not earn Points for incidental charges during any Reward Stay at a Hampton by Hilton™, Tru by Hilton™, Home2 Suites by Hilton® or Homewood Suites by Hilton® hotel.
Last edited by beltway; Jun 15, 2018 at 10:16 am
Jun 15, 2018, 6:01 pm
#350
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Anyone have an update on the topic below? This sticky topic is a year and a half old and I just had an experience today of a lowly Hampton Inn which appears to be doing capacity controls on points redemptions. I called Hilton directly and they could not convert my pay only with cash reservation to a pay only with miles reservation, claiming that the property had exceeded the number of rooms they wish to make available for points stays, for the night in question.
A note about blackout dates and capacity controls
According to the HHonors terms and conditions (item #4 ),
Unfortunately, beginning in the fall of 2011 Hilton allowed several properties -- including some of the most desirable desinations -- to effectively violate the "no capacity controls" rule. With the addition of Premium Room Rewards, certain Hilton hotels and resorts redesignated many of their standard rooms as premium rooms, and are charging exorbitant amounts (in some cases, double or triple the points) for these rooms. Members also report that some hotels have standard rooms available for cash purchase, but that these same rooms cannot be obtained using reward points.
A note about blackout dates and capacity controls
According to the HHonors terms and conditions (item #4 ),
Unfortunately, beginning in the fall of 2011 Hilton allowed several properties -- including some of the most desirable desinations -- to effectively violate the "no capacity controls" rule. With the addition of Premium Room Rewards, certain Hilton hotels and resorts redesignated many of their standard rooms as premium rooms, and are charging exorbitant amounts (in some cases, double or triple the points) for these rooms. Members also report that some hotels have standard rooms available for cash purchase, but that these same rooms cannot be obtained using reward points.
Jun 23, 2018, 6:35 am
#351
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: Skywards Blue :-(, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold, GHA Platinum
Posts: 2,531
I am planning to book a few award stays for early October.
We are travelling with Mrs. Ukdoctors parents and I have a dilemma .
We need 2 rooms but all the points are in my account . Both me and Mrs.Ukdoctor are Hilton Gold.
From what I can see the Hilton Gold benefits are given to the Gold member and and additional guest in the same room.
Is there any way of ensuring that both rooms get gold benefits ?
One plan was to transfer the points to Mrs. ukdoctors account and then book one room in my name and the other in her name . However is this really necessary?
We are travelling with Mrs. Ukdoctors parents and I have a dilemma .
We need 2 rooms but all the points are in my account . Both me and Mrs.Ukdoctor are Hilton Gold.
From what I can see the Hilton Gold benefits are given to the Gold member and and additional guest in the same room.
Is there any way of ensuring that both rooms get gold benefits ?
One plan was to transfer the points to Mrs. ukdoctors account and then book one room in my name and the other in her name . However is this really necessary?
Jun 23, 2018, 5:04 pm
#352
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: MCO, YEG
Posts: 1,181
I am planning to book a few award stays for early October.
We are travelling with Mrs. Ukdoctors parents and I have a dilemma .
We need 2 rooms but all the points are in my account . Both me and Mrs.Ukdoctor are Hilton Gold.
From what I can see the Hilton Gold benefits are given to the Gold member and and additional guest in the same room.
Is there any way of ensuring that both rooms get gold benefits ?
One plan was to transfer the points to Mrs. ukdoctors account and then book one room in my name and the other in her name . However is this really necessary?
We are travelling with Mrs. Ukdoctors parents and I have a dilemma .
We need 2 rooms but all the points are in my account . Both me and Mrs.Ukdoctor are Hilton Gold.
From what I can see the Hilton Gold benefits are given to the Gold member and and additional guest in the same room.
Is there any way of ensuring that both rooms get gold benefits ?
One plan was to transfer the points to Mrs. ukdoctors account and then book one room in my name and the other in her name . However is this really necessary?
Aug 21, 2018, 2:27 am
#353
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Although I’ve been collecting for a while, some of the basics of this program elude me. Is it like IHG Rewards, where reward bookings with points can be cancelled and refunded if done at least 24 hours before the planned stay? At IHG, it would appear that all reward nights bookings can be refunded, unless specified by the hotel during busy times, e.g. a fair.
Aug 21, 2018, 6:03 am
#354
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
Although I’ve been collecting for a while, some of the basics of this program elude me. Is it like IHG Rewards, where reward bookings with points can be cancelled and refunded if done at least 24 hours before the planned stay? At IHG, it would appear that all reward nights bookings can be refunded, unless specified by the hotel during busy times, e.g. a fair.
9. All Reward Stay reservations must be guaranteed with a credit card. Some hotels may require a deposit in lieu of a credit card guarantee. Deposits cannot be waived for Reward Stay reservations. No-shows or cancellations of Reward Stay reservations outside of the timeframe set by the hotel's individual cancellation policy will be charged one night's room and tax at the hotel's Best Available Rate for that date. General cancellation policy: cancel 48 hours prior to arrival to avoid cancellation penalties. Additional cancellation policies are established by each individual hotel and may differ from the general cancellation policy; in that case, the hotel's individual cancellation policy applies.
Sep 8, 2018, 2:28 am
#356
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 639
Hi,
Would it be possible to combine a points stay (incl. 5th-night free benefit) with a free weekend night award certificate, if said weekend falls in between of the points stay?
This might be a very basic question, but I am new to the Hilton Honors program and haven't been able to figure this out.
Would it be possible to combine a points stay (incl. 5th-night free benefit) with a free weekend night award certificate, if said weekend falls in between of the points stay?
This might be a very basic question, but I am new to the Hilton Honors program and haven't been able to figure this out.
Sep 8, 2018, 6:30 am
#357
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
Hi,
Would it be possible to combine a points stay (incl. 5th-night free benefit) with a free weekend night award certificate, if said weekend falls in between of the points stay?
This might be a very basic question, but I am new to the Hilton Honors program and haven't been able to figure this out.
Would it be possible to combine a points stay (incl. 5th-night free benefit) with a free weekend night award certificate, if said weekend falls in between of the points stay?
This might be a very basic question, but I am new to the Hilton Honors program and haven't been able to figure this out.
Applies only to five consecutive nights within the same full Points Standard Room Reward stay at the same property, up to 20 nights
Last edited by beltway; Sep 8, 2018 at 7:43 am
Sep 8, 2018, 5:00 pm
#359
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: AAdvantage, HHonors
Posts: 238
I had an odd experience with reservations today. I called to book two nights, one using 60K points and the other using a reward certificate. I was told that when using the reward certificate, I would be deducted 60K points, which would be returned at check-in. As I only had 90K points, I said that this would be impossible. The agent then calmly said that was fine, and went ahead and made the reservation.
Nov 2, 2018, 1:26 am
#360
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 333
I am having a strange experience trying to book a 5th night free stay.
When I look at the nights individually I see standard award space of 33K, 50K, 34K, 33K, 33K. Averaging these out my cost with 5th night free should be ~146K.
But when I book 5 nights straight, the pricing per night changes and I get a total price of 169K effectively wiping out the 5th night free.
Any advice? Call HH?
When I look at the nights individually I see standard award space of 33K, 50K, 34K, 33K, 33K. Averaging these out my cost with 5th night free should be ~146K.
But when I book 5 nights straight, the pricing per night changes and I get a total price of 169K effectively wiping out the 5th night free.
Any advice? Call HH?