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Old Oct 31, 2010, 11:21 am
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Phony / false / not really Hilton and Hilton properties

When I was in Adelaide, South Australia, last, I stayed at the Hilton Adelaide hotel, at 233 Victoria Square. Out on a walk I found...

The Hilton Hotel Adelaide, not a Hilton property, but rather a public house (pub) and restaurant (and gaming) situated at the corner South Road & Sir Donald Bradman Drive in the Adelaide suburb of Hilton. <link> You can't actually stay there...

I know I have seen other "Hiltons" that are not at all Hiltons, like the "Bali Hilton" - actually Ayodya Resort Bali in Nusa Dua that is still sold by the less than scrupulous as the "Bali Hilton", and which still retains the www.balihilton.com/ website.

And there is the "Paucar Vera Hilton Magin" in Mariscal Ramon Castilla, in Lima.

What other "Hilton" properties exist out there, under whatever name, Ersatz Doubletree, Notrili Conrad, etc. can we list here?
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 2:14 pm
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one of my all time favorites

the Ben Lomond CA Hylton
http://www.sfstation.com/ben-lomond-...lomond-b159465

Now a quality inn, but we stayed there when it was the Hylton.
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 2:19 pm
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I know it has been discussed on other threads here, but The Hilton Atlantic City uses the Hilton logo but is not a Hilton property and does not participate in the Hilton HHonors program.
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 2:30 pm
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In Townsend, TN there used to be a Hilltop Hilton. Most certainly; *NOT* a
Hilton hotel.
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 2:45 pm
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I love the hotel's name - "Ben Lomond Hylton Motel Econo Lodge of Ben Lomond". I wonder if Pharris Hylton ever stays there?

Originally Posted by squeakr
the Ben Lomond CA Hylton
http://www.sfstation.com/ben-lomond-...lomond-b159465

Now a quality inn, but we stayed there when it was the Hylton.
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Minneapolis
I know it has been discussed on other threads here, but The Hilton Atlantic City uses the Hilton logo but is not a Hilton property and does not participate in the Hilton HHonors program.
How does it get away with it?
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 5:59 pm
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How does it get away with it?
The pay for the use of the name. $$$ talks.
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 6:04 pm
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I must wonder if it's some anomaly of brand licensing laws in Australia. Fifteen (or so) years ago I stayed at the Sheraton Melbourne and got the 'Oh, no. You're mistaking us for an ITT Sheraton.'
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 6:20 pm
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Well, the Hilton Hotel (the restaurant, pub et al) has probably been around in Hilton S.A., a lot longer than the Hilton hotel chain has:



But there are others than do not have that cover.

Originally Posted by 3Cforme
I must wonder if it's some anomaly of brand licensing laws in Australia. Fifteen (or so) years ago I stayed at the Sheraton Melbourne and got the 'Oh, no. You're mistaking us for an ITT Sheraton.'
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 7:17 pm
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hilton chambers

hilton chambers in manchester... is a hostel, comes up on Expedia etc, beware! ;-)

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_R...r_England.html
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by TiredOfTooMuchTravel
The pay for the use of the name. $$$ talks.
Is it worth the confusion and resulting devaluation of its brand for Hilton to license its name to non-chain properties? Can't imagine that McDonalds would do that.
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Hilton Khartoum (Sudan) seems not to be a Hilton property anymore.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...-Khartoum.html
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Old Oct 31, 2010, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
Is it worth the confusion and resulting devaluation of its brand for Hilton to license its name to non-chain properties? Can't imagine that McDonalds would do that.
You are absolutely right.. But unfortunately it is what it is.
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There used to be a property on Central Expressway in Dallas that was a Hilton. Their franchise ended, but to save money they renamed the property the "Hiltop" so they would only have to change one letter on the name.
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Originally Posted by squeakr
the Ben Lomond CA Hylton
http://www.sfstation.com/ben-lomond-...lomond-b159465

Now a quality inn, but we stayed there when it was the Hylton.
That was the first property I thought of. Memories.
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