bbhewee

Is T4 really an upgrade on H4?

i had a H4 booked from LAX today and got given a Disco Sport HSE with T4 on the key fob. And it doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade.

GW McLintock

Yes... generally a larger vehicle.

-J.

j0ffr37

Hello,
I have a trip planned for March in California (LAX).
Want to enjoy the trip "American" (BIG SUV nice if possible V6-V8).
Which category do you recommend (and if I have the choice of the vehicle which vehicle more specifically?)

KevinMD

Can't go wrong with these. Usually nicely equipped with a big V8. There is another category which includes the Suburban, but they are essentially the same vehicles as these, but with more cargo room in the back.
4WD/AWD Large SUV (T, FFAR)
GMC Yukon T FFAR (21 mpg)
Chevrolet Tahoe T, YT FFAR (YT-tagged vehicles may have DVD system; 21 mpg)
Ford Expedition T, YT FFAR (YT-tagged vehicles may have DVD system)

m907

I dislike the Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon/Escalade family. I think they're outdated and clumsy. The new Expedition is easily the nicest ride but the GM vehicles are more common in the Hertz fleet. They're also known to foist the Nissan Armada on you.

zarathoustra03

I rented a Tahoe at SEA for thanksgiving. Except the basic interior and crapy navigation/entertainment system, it was a very nice car!
Enough cargo space in the back if you don't use the third-row seats, and pretty good gas mileage for a car of this size (18 mpg on 1800 miles overall).

But I agree, the Expedition is a very nice-looking car, totally outpace the Tahoe/Yukon on design aspects.

j0ffr37

Yes I already had the nissan armada, he had fun in the trails but if I could have something else this time it would arrange me

I have the FRAR (L4) at $ 296
The FFAR (T) at $ 338

I also in category prestige collection:
JFDR (H4) $ 345
RFAR (T4) $ 362

Which category do you recommend? (always for a 4wd / awd preferably in V6-8)

GW McLintock

The new Expedition comes with an EcoBoost V6 engine instead of a V8. I'd take the GM family over the Expedition.

-J.

m907

That GM V8 drops down to a V4 depending on how you drive it. Have you actually driven them both? I'm not a huge fan of turbo engines either but the Expedition drives light years better. The Expedition does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, which is faster than a Chrysler 300. The Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade are a a half-second slower to 60 than the Expedition and the Suburban/Yukon XL are almost a full second slower than the Expedition Max.

The Expedition feels more car-like and the interior of a regular Limited trim is better than an Escalade.

GW McLintock

It only drops down to V4 when you're cruising or coasting. I've not driven the new Expedition yet. I will admit I am partial to GM products, and I especially dislike the Ford infotainment systems.

-J.

m907

And I'll admit I'm partial to Ford products and especially dislike the (older) GM infotainment systems!

I actually really like the newest GM infotainment which resembles Android. I hate the older systems with crunchy graphics. Ford Sync 3 is good but relies too much on touch and it takes too many taps to do anything.

To me the Expedition Limited with the energetic drivetrain, car-like suspension, heated/cooled seats, panoramic sunroof, Sony/B&O audio, and nice cabin appointments is just a much nicer all-around experience than the bouncy truck-like ride and cheap interior of the GM products. I've driven the Expedition Max for 10 hours in a day and felt great, whereas I've driven the Suburban for 10 hours and felt exhausted by the constant bouncing and slow braking.

j0ffr37

Hello, I hesitate to choose between 4 ranges for a trip from LAX (California, Arizona and Utah, 10 days)

L4 for $ 298
T for $ 338
H4 for $ 348
T4 for $ 352

necessarily an AWD / 4WD, and preferably a large SUV American V6-V8 for fun.

Which one will you advise me? what model can I expect to have on LAX?

Thanks for answers

FlyinHawaiian

You've asked this before and received a number of responses:

j0ffr37

Yes for this old question but now i hesitate with H4 and T4, to know if the additional price is justified and worth it to have a vehicle of better quality, or if the series L4 or T will be sufficient.

as well as the vehicle generally given on LAX for these series

cestmoi123

If you want a large American SUV, then you definitely shouldn't go with the H4 or T4, where you'll probably get an Infiniti, Cadillac XT5, or small Land Rover.

"necessarily an AWD / 4WD, and preferably a large SUV American V6-V8 for fun"

A T class would very probably be a Tahoe, Yukon or Expedition, which are exactly what you're looking for. The L4 would likely be a Buick Enclave, Nissan Pathfinder, or Kia Sorento.