Hertz Rewards May 2019 USA Redemption Devaluation
#61
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York suburbs
Posts: 4,210
as those of us choosing Hertz comprehend we pay a surcharge for selection & customer service
Actually many of us comprehend we pay a surcharge for a similar selection and indifferent/incompetent customer service. Lol.
Actually many of us comprehend we pay a surcharge for a similar selection and indifferent/incompetent customer service. Lol.
#62
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: YYZ
Posts: 62
I'm so angered by this change actually. What a huge slap in the face! I have 3 weekly reservations in Hawaii I made on points and I was told that if I choose to cancel any of them now after 24 hours from the time of booking I''ll also forfeit 50% of my points! I'm only lucky that 1 of 3 was for an suv and I was able to get it at the old points rates, but now if I want to make any changes they can't be done online and have to be done on the phone and no one seems to know what to do if I want to switch car types (permitted within the category type). The reps themselves don't seem to be fully up to date with the recent changes. I had to hang up on one and call back to get someone who actually tried to help (wasted almost an hour on the phone).
I have been loyal to hertz for years and they can be sure after these rentals I'll be diverting my business elsewhere.
I have been loyal to hertz for years and they can be sure after these rentals I'll be diverting my business elsewhere.
#63
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,133
The points cancellation policy makes zero sense. If I cancel a hotel reservation or a Southwest flight I booked with points within a reasonable period ahead of the reservation, I get all my points back. Now I get penalized for booking a specialty vehicle in advance to make sure I get it when I need it. I saw a popup when making a reservation but thought it said I lost those points if I cancelled within 24 hours of pickup. You can bet I am writing Hertz on this one. I hope I don't have to cancel my reservation for Christmas (I booked a minivan to take two elderly relatives to my parents' as I do every year, but my brother who lives near said relatives talked about possibly hosting this year).
#65
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,133
Then why is there no apparent penalty for cash reservations or an ability to recover all points for a fee?
#66
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec
Posts: 6,736
#67
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,574
Hertz has decided to put restrictions on points bookings - there doesn't have to be an ability ro recover them - just need to make a business decision on whether you think the restrictions are worth the collecting of points ; will you get better value collecting FF miles and only booking pay later rates - or just using another car hire company will be better
It is not the only scheme that has penalties
#68
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York suburbs
Posts: 4,210
True, but as the pace of change accelerates in society, people have less time and patience for long-winded self-service processes. Consumers often find they need more speed and flexibility. Companies with rigid, early cancellation policies are finding themselves increasingly vulnerable to on-demand services.
The situations where someone would/can waste time picking up, parking, refueling, and returning rental cars are dwindling. There will always be a few specific, non replaceable use cases, such as a vacation roadtrip, but that's probably not enough to stay in business.
The situations where someone would/can waste time picking up, parking, refueling, and returning rental cars are dwindling. There will always be a few specific, non replaceable use cases, such as a vacation roadtrip, but that's probably not enough to stay in business.
#69
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Bellevue, WA - AA EXP 3MM
Posts: 2,756
I've recently paid attention to the dollars-off redemption options. For example, 600 points for $30 off. Can be a reasonable redemption value when rates are low. If rate is $15/day, this yields two days for 600 points, versus 1500 points required under the newly-worsened reward chart. Obviously better for customer. And if Hertz corporate is concerned about redemptions on super-high-priced vehicles at peak time, this also helps protect them against that.
Today the dollars-off redemptions are no longer appearing for me within hetz.com, and also appear to be missing from https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/ememb...points-program . Gone for good? What a double-whammy that would be.
Today the dollars-off redemptions are no longer appearing for me within hetz.com, and also appear to be missing from https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/ememb...points-program . Gone for good? What a double-whammy that would be.
#72
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
I think the last response is accurate. Hertz business loyal folks have corporate contracts so no risk losing those clients. With car rental searching many go for price vs. brand of Hertz or Avis so they really don't lose anything from a retention perspective as those of us choosing Hertz comprehend we pay a surcharge for selection & customer service. If we want to save the $xx p/day we go with their cheaper Dollar or Thrifty sub. With competition from ride sharing, and the fact car rentals quality/standards is decreasing (Sentra is intermediate car, Cruze is GOLD) why should they give anything free.
And cars are becoming bigger and more spacious.
#73
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,133
Interestingly enough, Hertz's Twitter agents claim the cancellation penalty for points reservations only takes effect if you cancel less than 24 hours before pick-up. This is despite me sending them the link to the policy on the Hertz website. You bet I captured that conversation to fight Hertz if I have to cancel and they don't restore all my points.
#74
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York suburbs
Posts: 4,210
I think I see signs Hertz is already feeling the consequences of diverted future business after the points devaluation. I noticed some markets show them to be the lowest price, and not necessarily by just a few dollars either, where they tend to be the most expensive by far. That's for both one-way and simple roundtrip use cases, as well.
It also seems that when competitors are sold out, Hertz is not, even when in the past they would have been the 2nd (after National) to do so. And even then, Hertz pricing is lower than it normally would have been. Interesting.
Hertz is probably gambling this is a temporary and small loss. As with everything so shortsighted they do, I doubt it will be.
It also seems that when competitors are sold out, Hertz is not, even when in the past they would have been the 2nd (after National) to do so. And even then, Hertz pricing is lower than it normally would have been. Interesting.
Hertz is probably gambling this is a temporary and small loss. As with everything so shortsighted they do, I doubt it will be.
#75
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,506
The devaluation hit Canada as well, not just the US.
I currently have one rental booked. Tomorrow, I'll go back to Autoslash and pick a cheaper brand than Hertz.
I understand that programs change and prices rise. But how they did this is awful.
Last edited by sokolov; Jun 16, 2019 at 4:50 am