Oct 8, 2020, 2:27 pm
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Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
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When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
Jul 13, 2020, 6:39 pm
#691
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
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Lt. Governor Josh Green wants to keep tourists out through at least October 1, with a check-in on September 15 to see if October 1 is even possible. He also wants interisland air travel grounded again except for essential workers. The new emergency proclamation declared today by the Governor is a compromise of Green's plan.
Jul 13, 2020, 11:48 pm
#692
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Jul 14, 2020, 12:18 am
#693
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
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While I haven't seen any polling data, I'd suspect its closer to 50/50.
Jul 14, 2020, 10:31 am
#694
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
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Posts: 4,861
That would be a problem for those that must go back and forth to the main land. In my case now the restricts me to having to do 2 weeks of quarantine for every turn around. Still working on one month there with 2 weeks quarantine, return to main land for a month and then return for round two for another month. It appears that will be the schedule we will follow until they allow at least a negative test to get in. I honestly don't think this is ideal and the testing would have been better for all parties but of course what does my opinion matter. Hawaii officials will do what they want to.
Italy
Texas
Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 pm
#695
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September 1, no way. Look at the Italy chart, it took 2-3 months to get from the peak of new cases to a possibly acceptable level. I think NY metro has been similar.
It is now July 15, so roughly 6 weeks to Sept. At that point you are into the traditionally slow fall season, so no reason to take a big risk. IMO the next critical target is mid-November, before peak holidays hit. Though I suppose you could argue it makes more sense to open during a slower time and see what transpires.
It is now July 15, so roughly 6 weeks to Sept. At that point you are into the traditionally slow fall season, so no reason to take a big risk. IMO the next critical target is mid-November, before peak holidays hit. Though I suppose you could argue it makes more sense to open during a slower time and see what transpires.
Jul 15, 2020, 9:30 am
#696
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My bet is not until next spring, not until after the flu season.
Jul 15, 2020, 11:29 am
#697
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If that happens and if isolation/distancing is really actually occurring, it will be an interesting biological experiment to see if both the active flu strains and CV19 then take off in the HI population.
David
David
Jul 15, 2020, 10:52 pm
#698
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Location: LI, NY
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Mine: Sometime in the November December time frame. By then the kama'aina will be up to their eyeballs in "rock fever" and want to visit friends and family on the mainland and elsewhere without having to worry about a quarantine on return to Hawaii. Also, by that time, Local 5 (hotel workers and others) will be on the verge of running Ige out of office. 
Jul 18, 2020, 10:20 am
#699
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Location: USA
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Mine: Sometime in the November December time frame. By then the kama'aina will be up to their eyeballs in "rock fever" and want to visit friends and family on the mainland and elsewhere without having to worry about a quarantine on return to Hawaii. Also, by that time, Local 5 (hotel workers and others) will be on the verge of running Ige out of office.
Jul 19, 2020, 3:58 pm
#700
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Location: san francisco.
Programs: Marriott Ti, OW Ruby
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I already posted this in the COVID-19 s14 day quarantine sticky but think its applicable here too.
Mayor Harry Kim says he doesn't think the State will be ready to open by Sept.1st
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com...ign=daily_news
Mayor Harry Kim says he doesn't think the State will be ready to open by Sept.1st
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com...ign=daily_news
Jul 19, 2020, 4:28 pm
#701
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Jul 22, 2020, 7:22 pm
#702
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Just checked with Turtle Bay Resort. They will not be reopening until at least 9/1. So sad...
Jul 22, 2020, 7:47 pm
#703
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Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 pm
#704
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55 new cases today, of which 50 on Oahu, an all-time high. One new death.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...utbreak-began/
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...utbreak-began/
Jul 23, 2020, 3:15 pm
#705
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Location: Colorado
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55 new cases today, of which 50 on Oahu, an all-time high. One new death.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...utbreak-began/
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...utbreak-began/