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Old Aug 14, 2020, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by a5un
Well, just got a call from Mauna Lani. They have unilaterally postponed their opening date to Oct 1st, before the official governor's announcement.
That's a shame, I have lined up the trip for our anniversary in Sept.
I canceled our own September plans yesterday as I had that " its not going to be happening " feeling
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Old Aug 14, 2020, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by mtofell
But at what cost? We could stop every virus from spreading by locking everyone in their house forever. We could also stop every automobile fatality by banning cars. We could stop obesity by banning crappy food (and ironically save far more people than have died of Covid).

Nearly six months ago we were told the whole purpose of this was to "flatten the curve." Well, here we are and apparently whatever they are doing isn't working. I'm not saying I have the answers but just leaving the entire state shutdown from it's revenue stream indefinitely is sure a questionable way to proceed. How long does this go on? What if a vaccine doesn't happen? Is Hawaii just closed forever?
The powers that be have no end game in sight. So they just continue to throw mandates on the people hoping something will stick. And so far we'd have been better off protecting the very old/care facility people and leaving the rest of society be. Masks? Yeah, states have had those mandates for months and we're no better off at all. And don't say no one is wearing them....probably 80% or better everywhere are give or take S.D. who forewent the madness. Hope HI opens soon!
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 1:02 am
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Originally Posted by a5un
Well, just got a call from Mauna Lani. They have unilaterally postponed their opening date to Oct 1st, before the official governor's announcement.
That's a shame, I have lined up the trip for our anniversary in Sept.
I had dinner at Mauna Lani last night. So sad seeing the resort deserted.

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Old Aug 15, 2020, 12:25 pm
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I had dinner at Mauna Lani last night. So sad seeing the resort deserted.
We were there this past Sunday for a benefit for Kahilu Theatre - Mauna Lani has become a partner with Kahilu during this time so that live performances can move forward - 40 lawn seating and 50 restaurant so there was no crowd and quite a bit of social distancing
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 12:32 pm
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I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Mary2e
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
Correct. You would have to quarantine inside the suite the entire 14 days. At this point I don't expect Hawaii to drop that restriction before 2021.
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by EWR764
When will Hawaii re-open for tourism?
Uh, when the state stops screwing around...State Was Lying To Us About Contact Tracing, Gabbard Says

oboy.

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Old Aug 15, 2020, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by hawaii-bound
We were there this past Sunday for a benefit for Kahilu Theatre - Mauna Lani has become a partner with Kahilu during this time so that live performances can move forward - 40 lawn seating and 50 restaurant so there was no crowd and quite a bit of social distancing
I watched a part of that online. It sounds like that was the last event on the books for Canoe House.

They said as long as they get 50-60 guests for dinner, they can keep the restaurant open. But due to union rules, the hotel couldn't reopen without mainland tourists coming in. While there's some kama'ainna that would visit, it wouldn't be enough to warrant the minimum staffing levels that the union requires.

I suppose it's more economical for the resorts to stay shuttered than to even open up a tower or floor or two to accommodate locals with cash to spend.

The carrying costs of keeping the Four Seasons at Hualalai, the Hilton Waikoloa Village, and the HGVC Kings Land there but closed have to be incredible. Just the electric bill (or property tax bill) have to be outrageous.
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by DELee
Uh, when the state stops screwing around...State Was Lying To Us About Contact Tracing, Gabbard Says

oboy.

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That is nuts. What could possibly be the explanation for that sort of incompetence?
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
I misspoke when saying beaches are being closed. Only Oahu beaches. My point is that while there may be county or state "beach parks," all beaches are "state" beaches. There is no such thing as private or semi-private beaches.
Hey, per your original comment I am now hearing they are enforcing the beach closures state wide so you may not be wrong about that after all. Still in quarantine in Kona so direct information is limited but that is what my surfer nephew is saying fwiw. He said he was told to take his board (at Banyans), enter the water, then when done sufering leave by local police. No lingering on the beach. He is life long local here. Any more recent updates on this?
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Mary2e
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
You wouldn't even be able to step out of your room during those 14 days unless you encountered a medical emergency. They'd issue you a single use room key or escort you to the room and open it for you. If you wanted food, you'd have to mask up in your room and have it delivered there. No leaving the room, not even to use resort facilities like on-site pool or eatery.
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Mary2e
I was supposed to go in May, and had just submitted the paperwork to get my dog on the islands - which was NOT an inexpensive proposition. Then the virus hit and we postponed to November, hoping we could go. It looks like we'll be cancelling yet again. While I certainly wouldn't mind being stuck in our reserved suite, I think it means we can't leave it, not even to go for a walk.
Same issues here, they will credit you the dog fees at the Dept of Ag and NO Vet fees if you go through Honolulu (HNL) which is a plus if you are going there. I recently cleared my dog through HNL and I got lucky and the lines were not long but other have reported long lines outside the quarantine station which can be very hot with little to no shade.
We cancelled several times as some on this board will tell you until I final just had to go for work/financial reasons. I am half way through quarantine and I can tell you traveling here wasn't easy. They quarantine is a hassle but at least I have a yard I can sit in and walk my dog. I plan to leave the middle of next month and return in late Nov/Dec, HOPEFULLY there will be no quarantine at that time as I would absolutely hate repeating this. Good Luck!
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Weatherboy
I watched a part of that online. It sounds like that was the last event on the books for Canoe House.
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They were planning 2 benefits/month but when the inter-island quarantine was reinstated, everything was put on hold. The initial opening was Brother Nolan followed by Mark Yamanaka and then Blayne Asing. A large percentage of the musicians that perform at Kahilu live on Oahu and Maui. The season is completely shot for the theatre and they are doing their best to remain afloat. My personal favorite was the Annual Slack Key Guitar and Ukulele Festival that is held in November - not this year.

Along the same lines, Merriman's Waimea just opened to modified outdoor dining this week. Merrimans at least has a local clientele which may help. I am not sure CanoeHouse can sustain as it is a special occasion restaurant and relies on hotel guests but I am going to remain optimistic.
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Weatherboy
While there's some kama'ainna that would visit, it wouldn't be enough to warrant the minimum staffing levels that the union requires.
So the union would rather have everyone unemployed than just some?
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Old Aug 15, 2020, 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman
So the union would rather have everyone unemployed than just some?
It appears so, but that's management's take. I'm sure they need a magic number just to hit break even on their margins, so I'm so labor costs is just part of that.
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