Troopers

Did you actually experience this or you relying on wikipedia and the like?

I'm guessing you actually didn't experience this ~80 years ago...so, in your very very long time in Hawaii, have you actually experienced anything remotely similar to the impacts of Covid-19?

FlyinHawaiian

Aloha, all:

Please allow me to step in here and first thank all who are participating in this thread for sharing their thoughts. That being said, please let me also make a friendly but formal request to be mindful of the tone and content of posts and ensure they are in compliance with this site's rules. Specific guidance is to keep the discussion cordial, non-personalized (discuss the post, not the poster), and on-topic (which is when might the current quarantine policies end, not the history of the transition of the Kingdom of Hawai`i to the Territory of Hawai`i to the State of Hawai`i). Slippahs and I are willing to give this forum a "light touch," but we do need to ensure that there is general compliance with the FlyerTalk Rules.

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Nagasaki Joe

I initially thought you were speaking of TOH when you said that "citizens were being rounded up for confinement", but I now think you were referring to the rounding up and internment of US citizens of Japanese descent on the mainland (at least that's the interpretation that makes the most historical sense), so my apologies if I misunderstood you, but it appeared that you were referring to US citizens in TOH. Now, let me return to the topic at hand. I agree with you that civil unrest is an unlikely response to prolonging the quarantine in Hawaii, though protests will likely continue from those who are unemployed and work in hotels and restaurants.

747FC

For those who might be interested, here is a map of unemployment claims in the Hawaii workforce, based upon residential locations of the claimants.

https://rpubs.com/jtyndall/claimsperworker

The map was created by the University of Hawaii https://uhero.hawaii.edu/mapping-une...ims-in-hawaii/ from SOH data.

Of interest, Waikiki area is 31%, and parts of Maui are over 50%

JNelson113

Thank you! Wow, the Hanalei area in Kauai--94%!

MDTyKe

Yes, but for us Hawaii residents, it's a bit complicated no? I regularly travel to Europe and beyond; and usually for less than a week. Returning I often have relatively tight layovers, e.g. LAX for 45 minutes. In my layovers now am I expected to go get a test? It's going to be a mess. It works well for point-to-point travel; but it's a mess for those coming from farther afield.

This I actually have issues with - as in effect it is a US State "denying entry" to other citizens. It's unfortunate.

ExpatExp

Similar travel patterns for me. If pre-departure tests are required when flying to Hawaii, my plan would be to get a test in Europe before departure. As there will be so many tourists arriving in Hawaii from abroad, no doubt any system which requires tests before departure will include a provision to accept non-US tests also.

MDTyKe

It's just especially difficult with say certain places - e.g. UK. In the UK it isn't easy to get elective 'tests', if at all. Often also appointments get moved; it's really going to be difficult to do. I'd hope they have some kind of in-airport testing that yields instant results; or waive it for residents. Otherwise, it really is hard to get home.

Alex_I

Indeed, if you read the letters to the local newspaper the people are getting desperate:
https://www.thegardenisland.com/2020...y-may-25-2020/

ksucats

I am unable to open the link, but I believe people are getting despearate. And if Hawaii doesn't hurry up and say what the plan is, it is only going to get worse. I currently have a fully refundable trip for late July. I originally was willing to wait it out and not cancel until two weeks out, but I am reconsidering that now. I see great deals on trips to Florida that I don't want to miss out on if I wait to long to cancel the trip to Hawaii. I will wait another week or two and hopefully there is some sign of change.

Dieuwer

People get what they voted for.

LIH Prem

They are expecting testing to become easy to get, for example, at a Walgreens or CVS or even at the airport. That's how the Lt. Gov explained the possible re-opening to tourism plan. Again, still very preliminary, things can and will change. There's a lot of global talk about health passports ... whatever that means. I think that is equally fluid at this point.

Frankly, I'd feel much safer getting on a plane or a cruise ship (not just going to Hawaii) knowing that everybody on board has been tested. And not just temp tested .. that's just theater for the most part.

-David

Alex_I

- sorry for the link - it did work OK for me. I do not want to cut-and-paste the letters without permissions. On May 25th there are only two letters. The first one basically says that Hawaii state government failed to provide essential needs for people to survive and that the author of the letter is one of many local residents who has not received the unemployment check in a timely matter. He literary has no means to survive The second letter is asking to randomly check 1,000 residents of Kauai for immunity. The author believes that as a tourist destination it is likely that Kaua‘i was exposed to Covid-19 early in the year and that many people on the island already got the antibodies. If so they should open up for tourists as usual and would have no problems. Clearly, some folks are becoming very desperate.
Meanwhile, one of my coworkers is spending a week at Hilton Head, SC. According her she did not see any differences, bar and restaurants are open, nobody cares about 6 ft distancing, and nobody is wearing masks... Personally, I would still wash hands regularly and rather have a good bottle of wine in private than at the bar. But I am certainly going to Hilton Head in June.

ksucats

That is quite the coincidence. So am I. This isn't our big summer vacation, but my wife and I are flying to Savannah in June. Going to spend a couple days there and a couple days on Hilton Head. We just booked this trip on Saturday after seeing reports from there. Can't wait.

By the way, the link worked for me when I tried it again this morning. Not sure what the issue was yesterday.

HaleiwaFlyer

Looks like Lt. Governor Josh Green is aiming for July.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...ustry-by-july/