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COVID-19 - 14-Day Trans-Pac Arrivals Quarantine [COVID TEST EXEMPTIONS BEGIN ????]

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June 24, 2020 UPDATE:
  • As of August 1, Hawaii will implement a pre-travel testing option to avoid the 14-day quarantine with a negative test within 72 hours
  • From the Governor's press release ( https://governor.hawaii.gov/newsroom...lers-august-1/ )
    HONOLULU – Gov. David Ige announced today all travelers arriving in Hawai‘i from out-of-state will be required to get a valid COVID-19 test prior to their arrival, and to show proof of a negative test result, to avoid the 14-day quarantine. The pre-travel testing program begins Aug. 1.

    Out-of-state travelers arriving in Hawai‘i must get a PCR test prior to arrival from any testing location approved by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health. Evidence of a negative test result must be provided upon arrival in Hawai‘i. Without this, passengers arriving from out-of-state will be subject to the 14-day quarantine. No testing will be provided upon arrival at the airport.

    The Health Department is still in the process of developing this program but anticipates requiring an FDA-approved PCR test from a CLIA certified laboratory. Travelers will be required to provide printed or emailed pre-test certification as evidence of a negative test result. Travelers will be responsible for the cost of the pre-travel test.

    Temperature checks will continue at airports across the state. Anyone with a temperature higher than 100.4 degrees or who is experiencing other symptoms will be required to undergo a secondary screening at the airport with trained healthcare staff.

Comprehensive Overview, With Questions and Answers:

https://www.gohawaii.com/special-alerts-information

Links to Other News Articles:

https://twitter.com/GovHawaii/status...64303066411008
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...vals-to-isles/
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...-spread-virus/

Data on where COVID-19 hotspots are in Hawaii: https://health.hawaii.gov/coronaviru...ion-in-hawaii/

List of Hotels that are currently closed:

https://www.gohawaii.com/special-alerts-information


For interisland travel:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawa...l#post32462884



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Old Jun 29, 20, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by bikenski View Post
Unless your business partner is an "essential" employee and eligible for an exemption to work in the islands, I don't think a negative result does a bit of good unless he arrives on or after August 1st. Even arriving July 31st would require a 14 day quarantine if I'm reading the rules correctly.
That's a question I had: If you land 7/31 do you have to do 14 days?

Its moot to me: Im heading to Maui July 9 and doing my 14 days in the hole. As an aside, I have been tested twice, don't have Covid, I am type O blood which seems not to get Covid, but I am doing my 14 days starting July 9.

Also I just saw Mayor Victorino is asking to extend the Hana road closure. I couldn't care less; I haven't driven the road since 1981. I did take Mokulele over for a hotel stay a few years ago; very nice. But that road closure has nothing to do with Covid. Its pure political pandering. Hana residents head to Kahului everyday and mingle with the unwashed. Maybe Mayor Victorino, and and the Mayor of Seattle could get together and brainstorm new ways to turn the asylum over to the inmates.
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Old Jun 29, 20, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by denver19 View Post
That's a question I had: If you land 7/31 do you have to do 14 days?
So far they are saying yes as far as I know. That's how it worked when they lifted the required 14 day quarantine for inter-island flights. If you traveled one day before it was lifted, you were still subject to a mandatory 14 day quarantine.

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Old Jun 30, 20, 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by bikenski View Post
Unless your business partner is an "essential" employee and eligible for an exemption to work in the islands, I don't think a negative result does a bit of good unless he arrives on or after August 1st. Even arriving July 31st would require a 14 day quarantine if I'm reading the rules correctly.
Yes, sorry I should have given dates of travel but we are well aware of the current restrictions. He plans on testing July 31st (Friday) and flying out on Monday Aug 3rd. We MAY not have the test results until Tues or even Wed given the weekend and we are trying to see if he can quarantine until results are submitted (assuming they are neg). If not we will just wait a couple more days, no big deal given how long our Hawaii operation has been shut down already.
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Old Jul 1, 20, 1:14 pm
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From Aug 1 - per the statement from the Governor's office for out of state travellers coming to Hawaii:

Out-of-state travelers arriving in Hawai‘i must get a PCR test prior to arrival from any testing location approved by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health. Evidence of a negative test result must be provided upon arrival in Hawai‘i. Without this, passengers arriving from out-of-state will be subject to the 14-day quarantine. No testing will be provided upon arrival at the airport.

The Health Department is still in the process of developing this program but anticipates requiring an FDA-approved PCR test from a CLIA certified laboratory. Travelers will be required to provide printed or emailed pre-test certification as evidence of a negative test result. Travelers will be responsible for the cost of the pre-travel test.

Question:

The last sentence implies the the covid 19 PCR test can only be done in American labs. This implies that out of country (such as my case, Canada) would still have to quarantine/self-isolate for 14 days - as our negative covid 19 tests would not be considered valid as the CLIA certfied labs just refer to those labs in USA?
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Old Jul 1, 20, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII View Post
From Aug 1 - per the statement from the Governor's office for out of state travellers coming to Hawaii:

Out-of-state travelers arriving in Hawai‘i must get a PCR test prior to arrival from any testing location approved by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health. Evidence of a negative test result must be provided upon arrival in Hawai‘i. Without this, passengers arriving from out-of-state will be subject to the 14-day quarantine. No testing will be provided upon arrival at the airport.

The Health Department is still in the process of developing this program but anticipates requiring an FDA-approved PCR test from a CLIA certified laboratory. Travelers will be required to provide printed or emailed pre-test certification as evidence of a negative test result. Travelers will be responsible for the cost of the pre-travel test.

Question:

The last sentence implies the the covid 19 PCR test can only be done in American labs. This implies that out of country (such as my case, Canada) would still have to quarantine/self-isolate for 14 days - as our negative covid 19 tests would not be considered valid as the CLIA certfied labs just refer to those labs in USA?
Looks like Canadians can't travel to the US unless it is essential travel: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/06/16/...ad-coronavirus
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Old Jul 2, 20, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII View Post
From Aug 1 - per the statement from the Governor's office for out of state travellers coming to Hawaii:

Out-of-state travelers arriving in Hawai‘i must get a PCR test prior to arrival from any testing location approved by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health. Evidence of a negative test result must be provided upon arrival in Hawai‘i. Without this, passengers arriving from out-of-state will be subject to the 14-day quarantine. No testing will be provided upon arrival at the airport.

The Health Department is still in the process of developing this program but anticipates requiring an FDA-approved PCR test from a CLIA certified laboratory. Travelers will be required to provide printed or emailed pre-test certification as evidence of a negative test result. Travelers will be responsible for the cost of the pre-travel test.

Question:

The last sentence implies the the covid 19 PCR test can only be done in American labs. This implies that out of country (such as my case, Canada) would still have to quarantine/self-isolate for 14 days - as our negative covid 19 tests would not be considered valid as the CLIA certfied labs just refer to those labs in USA?
Looks like the best thing is to get the PCR results just PRIOR to departure. It should be doable as locally I am hearing between 12 hrs and 48hrs for results now. But there are reports of up to 4 days from some locations.
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Old Jul 2, 20, 6:09 pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if the quarantine waiver was delayed beyond August 1 or canceled outright due to the growing cases on the mainland. Some of the Hawaii mayors are asking Ige to reconsider the date.

I would hate to book a trip to Hawaii with so much uncertainty abound.
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Old Jul 2, 20, 10:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Weatherboy View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if the quarantine waiver was delayed beyond August 1 or canceled outright due to the growing cases on the mainland. Some of the Hawaii mayors are asking Ige to reconsider the date.

I would hate to book a trip to Hawaii with so much uncertainty abound.
Not going to happen. Unemployment payments run out 7/31. These dates Gov Ige and the hui are instituting have nothing to do with health. This is about political expediency. On 8/1 there is no more free lunch. So, its back to work we go.
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Old Jul 3, 20, 8:00 am
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Not going to happen. Unemployment payments run out 7/31. These dates Gov Ige and the hui are instituting have nothing to do with health. This is about political expediency. On 8/1 there is no more free lunch. So, its back to work we go.
Ever hear of PUA and PUEC of CARES Act?
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Old Jul 3, 20, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by Weatherboy View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if the quarantine waiver was delayed beyond August 1 or canceled outright due to the growing cases on the mainland. Some of the Hawaii mayors are asking Ige to reconsider the date.

I would hate to book a trip to Hawaii with so much uncertainty abound.
I'm with denver19 for his and for a different reason. People are booking flights now and the hotels (and other businesses) are gearing up for the relative onslaught of tourists. If Ige goes back to requiring a quarantine a lot of powerful people here will go ballistic.

Having said that, I can see a potential problem where someone books a flight and hotel but can't get the test performed within the 72-hour window prior to departure and then tries to get their airfare refunded or a credit without a change fee. I read somewhere shortages are starting to develop with the testing materials, like swabs. If they start to prioritize who gets a test I am sure your vacation to Hawaii is going to be low on the list.
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Old Jul 3, 20, 11:55 am
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Did they set the 8/1 date when cases in other states were declining or steady?

Now there are 40 states where cases are increasing.

Also, does the 8/1 date apply to the rest of the world?

Surprised HI doesn't go for a travel bubble with some Asian and Oceana countries.
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Old Jul 3, 20, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by lking View Post
Ever hear of PUA and PUEC of CARES Act?
The extra $600 runs out at the end of July. People are making more than they do while working, which creates an incentive to not go back to work. Virtually no chance it gets extended. The 2 programs you reference deal mostly with how long you can receive unemployment for & eligibility for benefits.
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Old Jul 3, 20, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by slippahs View Post
I think FT is having issues trying to embed the linked video into the post and the result of it is a link that does not show.

For those wondering about the hearing before Judge Watson set tomorrow at 10:30, it appears the "For Our Rights" plaintiffs have voluntarily dismissed the case so there is no hearing.

There is still another lawsuit brought by other plaintiffs before Judge Jill Otake with a TRO motion set for hearing on July 2 at 11 a.m.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ring-pandemic/

"Federal judge rules Hawaii’s quarantine is reasonable during coronavirus pandemic"
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Old Jul 4, 20, 8:38 pm
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Looks like Canadians can't travel to the US unless it is essential travel: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/06/16/...ad-coronavirus


Actually there is a loophole for Canadians.

See link:

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/ai...es-intl-travel

Americans are not allowed to come to Canada either by land or by air.
Canadians are prohibited from going to USA by land only; not by air!

So Air Canada is operating (by re-opening covid 19 suspended routes) more and more transborder flights between Canada and USA.
But AC has not yet opened up flights between Canada and Hawaii.

If Canadians (for non-essential business) do fly to USA (eg as a tourist), they can fly back but they must self-isolate (quarantine) for 14 days.
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Old Jul 4, 20, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC View Post
Looks like Canadians can't travel to the US unless it is essential travel: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/06/16/...ad-coronavirus
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII View Post
Looks like Canadians can't travel to the US unless it is essential travel: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/06/16/...ad-coronavirus


Actually there is a loophole for Canadians.

See link:

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/ai...es-intl-travel

Americans are not allowed to come to Canada either by land or by air.
Canadians are prohibited from going to USA by land only; not by air!

So Air Canada is operating (by re-opening covid 19 suspended routes) more and more transborder flights between Canada and USA.
But AC has not yet opened up flights between Canada and Hawaii.

If Canadians (for non-essential business) do fly to USA (eg as a tourist), they can fly back but they must self-isolate (quarantine) for 14 days.
One is typically advised to consider official sites for travel information. Updated today, Canada's travel advisory still says only essential travel to US is allowed:

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states

And the US site: https://ca.usembassy.gov/travel-rest...ns-fact-sheet/

So, I stand by my post that you cited above in your first line.
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