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COVID-19 - 10-Day Arrivals Quarantine/Pre- and Post-Arrival Test-Out Policies

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https://www.gohawaii.com/special-alerts-information


CURRENT POLICIES
  • The mandatory 10-day quarantine is required for all passengers (visitors and returning residents) arriving into the state of Hawaii.
  • Additionally, operations, including peer-to-peer platforms or sharing services, may not rent vehicles to any person who is subject to a 10-day traveler quarantine order unless an exemption is granted.
  • Travelers flying into Hawaii are required to register personal information into the Safe Travels application; the information will be used to aid officials in contacting travelers via phone, email, and SMS. It does *not* currently enable GPS-tracking of travelers via their mobile devices.
  • Travelers are exempt from the mandatory 10-day quarantine if testing is completed no more than 72 hours before the departure time of the final leg of your flight to Hawai‘i with proof of a negative result.
    • The state of Hawai‘i will ONLY accept Nucleic Acid Amplification Test (NAAT) from a certified Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendment (CLIA) lab test results from TRUSTED TESTING AND TRAVEL PARTNERS. A negative COVID-19 test result is required prior to departure to avoid quarantine in Hawai‘i.
    • If results are not available by time of arrival, quarantine necessary until test results received.
    • All travelers (returning residents and visitors) of all ages subject to pre-test requirement.
    • Individuals are responsible for testing costs.
    • Travelers (returning residents and visitors) are not able to test upon arrival in Hawaii because this is a pre-travel testing program.
    • No commercial COVID-19 NAAT testing will be provided upon arrival at the airport. Travelers without the pre-test will be in quarantine.
    • https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel-partners/

Data on where COVID-19 hotspots are in Hawaii: https://health.hawaii.gov/coronaviru...ion-in-hawaii/

List of Hotels that are currently closed:

https://www.gohawaii.com/special-alerts-information


For interisland travel:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawa...l#post32462884

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Old Apr 14, 20, 3:16 pm
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Not yet, but I have my “papers” ready when they do.
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Old Apr 15, 20, 12:20 am
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Is it just me or is Hawaii consistently about a month+ behind where they should be with this virus? The 14-day quarantine was enacted weeks past when it was prudent to do so. TODAY, roughly 6 weeks past the time we all knew this was serious, there is an order that everyone must wear masks in stores. 4 days ago they enacted a curfew in Maui and Oahu (At least Kauai had one weeks ago). And now, when the mainland is mounting plans to reopen things, Hawaii is still looking for ways to stop travelers from coming: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...-reservations/

I get the whole, "Hawaiian Time" thing but maybe in a pandemic they could get with the rest of the world? I'm a somewhat new resident so maybe I just need just need to get used to the way things work here.
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Old Apr 15, 20, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by mtofell View Post
Is it just me or is Hawaii consistently about a month+ behind where they should be with this virus? The 14-day quarantine was enacted weeks past when it was prudent to do so. TODAY, roughly 6 weeks past the time we all knew this was serious, there is an order that everyone must wear masks in stores. 4 days ago they enacted a curfew in Maui and Oahu (At least Kauai had one weeks ago). And now, when the mainland is mounting plans to reopen things, Hawaii is still looking for ways to stop travelers from coming: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/14/state-explores-deterring-tourists-by-limiting-reservations/

I get the whole, "Hawaiian Time" thing but maybe in a pandemic they could get with the rest of the world? I'm a somewhat new resident so maybe I just need just need to get used to the way things work here.
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Old Apr 15, 20, 2:51 am
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Originally Posted by mtofell View Post
Is it just me or is Hawaii consistently about a month+ behind where they should be with this virus? The 14-day quarantine was enacted weeks past when it was prudent to do so. TODAY, roughly 6 weeks past the time we all knew this was serious, there is an order that everyone must wear masks in stores. 4 days ago they enacted a curfew in Maui and Oahu (At least Kauai had one weeks ago). And now, when the mainland is mounting plans to reopen things, Hawaii is still looking for ways to stop travelers from coming: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/14/state-explores-deterring-tourists-by-limiting-reservations/

I get the whole, "Hawaiian Time" thing but maybe in a pandemic they could get with the rest of the world? I'm a somewhat new resident so maybe I just need just need to get used to the way things work here.
Hawaii was late to react, but in reading world news, it seems like every jurisdiction also was late to react. To be fair, I think that leaders have lots of information coming in, with subordinates routinely bringing "urgent" matters to their attention. Once the leaders fully understood that COVID-19 really was urgent, they had to contend with how to react with the appropriate balancing that politicians practice.

In reading the Japan thread on this topic, Coronavirus impact in Japan [consolidated] , it is evident that there are a lot of similarities in response types.
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Old Apr 15, 20, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mtofell View Post
Is it just me or is Hawaii consistently about a month+ behind where they should be with this virus? The 14-day quarantine was enacted weeks past when it was prudent to do so. TODAY, roughly 6 weeks past the time we all knew this was serious, there is an order that everyone must wear masks in stores. 4 days ago they enacted a curfew in Maui and Oahu (At least Kauai had one weeks ago). And now, when the mainland is mounting plans to reopen things, Hawaii is still looking for ways to stop travelers from coming: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...-reservations/

I get the whole, "Hawaiian Time" thing but maybe in a pandemic they could get with the rest of the world? I'm a somewhat new resident so maybe I just need just need to get used to the way things work here.
I don't want to pivot this thread too far off topic (it's about the 14 day mandatory quarantine for all arrivals), but there are counties in California that don't have a mask rule or an overnight curfew, despite having stay-at-home orders in place.

Getting back on topic, Star-Advertiser has an article expressing lawmakers' wishes to continue to crack down on tourism arrivals because the 100 or so are still too much:
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...e-keep-coming/

The plan would be to prohibit visitors from being able to book lodging.
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Old Apr 18, 20, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by mtofell View Post
Is it just me or is Hawaii consistently about a month+ behind where they should be with this virus?
The beaches are closed now. Just a few weeks behind, not month+ anymore!
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Old Apr 18, 20, 2:48 pm
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The beaches are closed now. Just a few weeks behind, not month+ anymore!
Yeah... this is pretty nuts. In the same 24 hour news cycle I've heard if all goes well Hawaii MIGHT start to ease some things as soon as a few MONTHS from now, Hawaii is one of a few states ready to start "opening up" now, and that the beaches are now all closed.

So, which is it? Are we getting close to the end or are we still ramping things up?

I have some important things I have to do on the mainland with my elderly parents ASAP but am afraid to leave since I won't be able to come back without being stuck in my house for 14 days.
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Old Apr 19, 20, 1:12 am
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Flight arrivals stats for Friday, April 3rd (from Big Island Video News ? Serving Hawaii County):



David
Well, numbers continue to shrink - here's the data for Friday, April 17th:



and BIVN's accompanying text:

Yesterday, 486 people arrived in Hawaii including 98 visitors and 184 residents. During this same time last year, nearly 30,000 passengers arrived in Hawaii daily, including residents and visitors. The state’s mandatory 14-day self-quarantine started on March 26th for all passengers arriving in Hawaii from out of state. The quarantine order was expanded on April 1st to include interisland travelers. This table shows the number of people who arrived by air from out of state yesterday and does not include interisland travel.
with the definitions of each arrival type:

Crew = flight crew members
Intended Resident = people who are moving to Hawaii such as military members and their families, and former residents who intend to live in Hawaii
Resident = people who have a Hawaii ID
Transit = people who are in transit to another location through Hawaii and aren’t leaving the airport
Visitor = people who do not have a Hawaii ID including essential health care workers, essential federal workers, former residents such as mainland college students coming to stay with family, military on temporary assignment, and leisure travelers
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Old Apr 19, 20, 3:40 pm
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Well, numbers continue to shrink - here's the data for Friday, April 17th:



and BIVN's accompanying text:



with the definitions of each arrival type:



David
The "intended resident" category is interesting - I assume these folks must quarantine but where? If they already have a house here wouldn't they just be considered a "resident". If they don't have a house they certainly can't shop for one now. So, maybe staying with friends/family until they can shop? I'm just wondering if this is some loophole people are trying to use for some purpose (that I don't see).
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Old Apr 19, 20, 4:53 pm
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The "intended resident" category is interesting - I assume these folks must quarantine but where? If they already have a house here wouldn't they just be considered a "resident". If they don't have a house they certainly can't shop for one now. So, maybe staying with friends/family until they can shop? I'm just wondering if this is some loophole people are trying to use for some purpose (that I don't see).
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Old Apr 19, 20, 7:05 pm
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Visitor = people who do not have a Hawaii ID including essential health care workers, essential federal workers, former residents such as mainland college students coming to stay with family, military on temporary assignment, and leisure travelers

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I noticed this as well. So many outlets are including this graphic without attributing the source, and finally I saw the useless definition of "visitor". The category is essentially meaningless IMO. It does not mean "visitor" at all. It's everybody without Hawaii ID, even if they are essential workers. I'd like to see the number of leisure travelers vs the rest.
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Old Apr 19, 20, 9:06 pm
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It's everybody without Hawaii ID, even if they are essential workers. I'd like to see the number of leisure travelers vs the rest.
It seems like it would also rule out part-time residents that keep their ID in another state. That's my category but it seems funny to label me as a visitor.
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Visitor = people who do not have a Hawaii ID including essential health care workers, essential federal workers, former residents such as mainland college students coming to stay with family, military on temporary assignment, and leisure travelers
Originally Posted by LIH Prem View Post
…finally I saw the useless definition of "visitor". The category is essentially meaningless IMO. It does not mean "visitor" at all. It's everybody without Hawaii ID, even if they are essential workers.
I'm glad others realise this. I have noticed a tendency by politicians and the media to describe the aforementioned "visitor" numbers as if they are all tourists.

Similarly, I'm surprised when I hear politicians mention that "visitor" numbers are too high, based on the current daily "visitor" figures. Total arriving passenger numbers on the first day of the quarantine were down 95% below normal, if I remember correctly, and are now down more than 98% below normal, I believe. A 98% reduction in arriving passengers seems to me to be a sensational success considering that airports are open and flights are available.

Furthermore, considering, for example, that Friday's 98 "visitors" included non-tourists, such as "people who do not have a Hawaii ID including essential health care workers, essential federal workers, former residents such as mainland college students coming to stay with family, [and] military on temporary assignment", it seems to me that actual arriving tourists are likely to be very few and very far between (though, perhaps, disproportionately discussed).

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I'd like to see the number of leisure travelers vs the rest.
Agreed.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 10:36 am
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I'm just wondering if anyone would like to speculate with me as to what it would take for Hawaii to begin welcoming visitors again. (without the 14 day quarantine). I certainly understand the need to shut down for now, but just looking to the future.

A vaccine? Effective treatment? Some sort of test at the airport before boarding the plane?

Just wondering. I love Hawaii and had hoped to return this year, but we'll see.
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Old Apr 21, 20, 10:51 pm
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Here's the latest: https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...y-experts-say/

There's really nothing concrete but it's at least something I suppose. I'd be surprised if the 14-day quarantine is lifted before June 1 but that's just a total guess. People here seem to be taking it better than other states on the mainland. No protests or anything. Locals seem to be in favor of keeping travelers away.
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