COVID-19 - 10-Day Arrivals Quarantine/Pre- and Post-Arrival Test-Out Policies
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Mar 22, 20, 9:05 pm
#16
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Originally Posted by smf_ltn
This should improve my chances of getting a refund rather than a voucher. My travel is on 4/1 so still waiting to call HA. However, this will probably further overload the call center, sigh.
Thanks for the update.
Thanks for the update.
Originally Posted by azj
As described in the press conference, violation of this quarantine will be a misdemeanor and subject to $5k fine and/or year in jail.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscu..._0706-0640.htm
Not sure where the $5K that the government announced is coming from...
Last edited by slippahs; Mar 23, 20 at 1:08 pm Reason: combining multiple posts
Mar 23, 20, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
Hawaii has plenty of air cargo from Fed Ex, UPS and other large cargo only operators with 747's - with much of it perishable food. By the far, the bulk of Hawaii's cargo comes via shipping. If the cargo business is that lucrative, I'd expect the planes that are designed to ship only cargo to pick up more business. If United can pick up that much cargo - more power to them, but I don't see nor have heard Hawaii has a reliance on commercial airline cargo.
Who knows though - there are currently 5 nonstops from SFO to HNL on Monday Mar 30, despite what will be a 14 day quarantine, beaches closed, and they just ordered shelter in place on Oahu. Maybe they do have enough cargo.
Who knows though - there are currently 5 nonstops from SFO to HNL on Monday Mar 30, despite what will be a 14 day quarantine, beaches closed, and they just ordered shelter in place on Oahu. Maybe they do have enough cargo.
Mar 23, 20, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by slippahs
United is cancelling many of the 737s scheduled to operate as the day draws nearer I’d be surprised if all 5 nonstops operate on Monday.
Hawaiian is only flying 1 daily LAX-HNL flight starting Thursday - all other mainland flights are being suspended. If they have cargo flights, then they won't be with passengers on them.
Mar 23, 20, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by dragond
I was planning on camping out in the outdoors so this threw a wrench in avoiding people. Not sure how they're going to enforce the situation where one has no lodging booked. This mandate most likely is to deter anyone coming.
Mar 25, 20, 1:43 pm
#21
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Transit passengers
Originally Posted by HkCaGu
How are they going to enforce this for transit passengers? Specifically, international/Guam-to-domestic passengers who are dumped landside to re-clear TSA.
That said, the March 21st proclamation states that "all persons entering the State of Hawai'i" shall be subject to mandatory self-quarantine. And the Department of Health website states variously that mandatory self-quarantine applies to "individuals, both residents and visitors arriving or returning to Hawai'i," "all arrivals at state airports" from the continental U.S. and abroad, and "all visitors and residents arriving through Hawai'i's airports."
Grateful for any information or insight . . .
Mar 26, 20, 12:35 pm
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The directive also says 14-day quarantine or for "...duration of stay, whichever is longer..." so for practical purposes it would appear that quarantine will only last for as long as is at the airport. I suspect that one will answer the questionnaire, inform the screener of in-transit status with the next flight leaving in X hours, and as long as you clear the screening then they will allow you to stay at the airport until the next flight. Should one try to leave the airport then one would be required to go into quarantine.
To be sure, a good bet is to contact the Hawaii Dept of Emergency Management who actually issued the order via the Governor at (808) 733-4300.
An alternative, and probably the very best bet, is to contact the operations department of the airport where one will arrive - they will know absolutely how this will be handled because they have to make sure it is implemented correctly. Airport Ops are some pretty cool folks.
To be sure, a good bet is to contact the Hawaii Dept of Emergency Management who actually issued the order via the Governor at (808) 733-4300.
An alternative, and probably the very best bet, is to contact the operations department of the airport where one will arrive - they will know absolutely how this will be handled because they have to make sure it is implemented correctly. Airport Ops are some pretty cool folks.
Last edited by Section 107; Mar 26, 20 at 3:45 pm
Mar 26, 20, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
I am not a criminal defense attorney or prosecutor, but the Hawaii Revised Statutes say that the top penalty for a misdemeanor is $2K
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscu..._0706-0640.htm
Not sure where the $5K that the government announced is coming from...
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscu..._0706-0640.htm
Not sure where the $5K that the government announced is coming from...
Mar 26, 20, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Section 107
Hawaii law [§127A-29] provides for up to $5k when convicted of violating a Governor's or Mayor's emergency order
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscu...0127A-0029.htm
[§127A-29] Misdemeanors. Any person violating any rule of the governor or mayor prescribed and promulgated pursuant to this chapter and having the force and effect of law, shall, if it shall be so stated in the rule, be guilty of a misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the person shall be fined not more than $5,000, or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
Any person who intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly destroys, damages, or loses any shelter, protective device, or warning or signal device, shall if the same was installed or constructed by the United States, the State, or a county, or is the property of the United States, the State, or a county, be fined the cost of replacement, or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. The governor or mayor, may, by rule, make further provisions for the protection from misuse of shelters, protective devices, or warning and signal devices. [L 2014, c 111, pt of §2]
Mar 26, 20, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
I am not a criminal defense attorney or prosecutor, but the Hawaii Revised Statutes say that the top penalty for a misdemeanor is $2K
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscu..._0706-0640.htm
Not sure where the $5K that the government announced is coming from...
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscu..._0706-0640.htm
Not sure where the $5K that the government announced is coming from...
Mar 27, 20, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by Section 107
The directive also says 14-day quarantine or for "...duration of stay, whichever is longer..." so for practical purposes it would appear that quarantine will only last for as long as is at the airport. I suspect that one will answer the questionnaire, inform the screener of in-transit status with the next flight leaving in X hours, and as long as you clear the screening then they will allow you to stay at the airport until the next flight. Should one try to leave the airport then one would be required to go into quarantine.
To be sure, a good bet is to contact the Hawaii Dept of Emergency Management who actually issued the order via the Governor at (808) 733-4300.
An alternative, and probably the very best bet, is to contact the operations department of the airport where one will arrive - they will know absolutely how this will be handled because they have to make sure it is implemented correctly. Airport Ops are some pretty cool folks.
To be sure, a good bet is to contact the Hawaii Dept of Emergency Management who actually issued the order via the Governor at (808) 733-4300.
An alternative, and probably the very best bet, is to contact the operations department of the airport where one will arrive - they will know absolutely how this will be handled because they have to make sure it is implemented correctly. Airport Ops are some pretty cool folks.
Mar 27, 20, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ZenFlyer
@Section 107 Thank you for the informative reply. That is a good point regarding "duration of stay" likely covering transit flights. I've gotten conflicting information from other government offices, so appreciate the recommendations about who to contact.
There's a quote in today's article from a transit passenger. Looks like nothing different here from the ordinary - transit passenger hangs around the airport until the next flight.
Mar 27, 20, 1:34 pm
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Looks like they are actually enforcing the stay at home order pretty seriously so the 14-day quarantine could be the same. After all, with everyone at home the police don't really have much to do. I'm here on Maui and there is word of people being pulled over and questioned. I suppose if a cop gets behind you and runs your plate he/she can determine pretty quickly if you're heading to/from a store for food or off doing something else.
I read a story this morning that says there are checkpoints in Kauai and that a bunch of people on Oahu were arrested for not leaving parks when told to do so. I've seen a couple police on 4-wheelers here running up and down the beach but they don't seem too interested in chasing people out of the ocean or off the beach, presumably since we're just small groups and not in a public park.
I read a story this morning that says there are checkpoints in Kauai and that a bunch of people on Oahu were arrested for not leaving parks when told to do so. I've seen a couple police on 4-wheelers here running up and down the beach but they don't seem too interested in chasing people out of the ocean or off the beach, presumably since we're just small groups and not in a public park.
Mar 27, 20, 9:38 pm
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...ry-quarantine/
268 visitors to all islands on Thurs, March 26 (first day of 14-day mandatory quarantine for arrivals)
239 to HNL, 11 to Maui, 18 to the BI
1,589 total arrivals, some of whom I believe were transit pax per a Maui News article.
Who are the 268 people who are flying to Hawaii just to be stuck in a hotel room for 14 days (or less)?
268 visitors to all islands on Thurs, March 26 (first day of 14-day mandatory quarantine for arrivals)
239 to HNL, 11 to Maui, 18 to the BI
1,589 total arrivals, some of whom I believe were transit pax per a Maui News article.
Who are the 268 people who are flying to Hawaii just to be stuck in a hotel room for 14 days (or less)?
