COSPILOT

That is correct.

mtofell

Is there some protocol for how quickly you need to return the call if you are taking a nap or just don't hear the phone?

ExpatExp

I believe you are correct to question what the state is saying. There does not appear to be any reason that "location services" being enabled or disabled would have any effect in this context, which is a phone call you make to someone.

For the benefit of other readers, however, the state could certainly be requesting "location services" data when travellers use the state's website (also called a web application, but different than an application you download on your phone) to check in. Perhaps the state is incorrectly mixing up these two concepts, if they are asking for "location services" to be enabled for a phone call.

COSPILOT

No idea, but for whatever reason no missed call shown, but the voicemail did. My wife called back 15 minutes later than when they tried to call.

I want to say again, she said the lady was very friendly.

DELee

New mandatory travel declaration form: https://hidot.hawaii.gov/airports/fi...M-20200519.pdf

David

747FC

Interesting that there is no place to indicate whether one of the contact numbers can/cannot receive texts.

silvermine

Just curious, are we to assume that military personnel are exempt from the 14 day quarantine on arrival?

slippahs

Believe so - when you look at the daily counts, they include exempted military personnel: https://www.hawaiitourismauthority.o...ss-release.pdf

silvermine

Thank you slippahs, that info helps a great deal.

ExpatExp

This looks like a school civics exercise that would get a B grade at best. Poorly formatted, in one language only, and doesn't replace both forms, therefore requiring airlines and passengers to deal with two pieces of paper rather than one, one of which will be collected by the flight attendants prior to landing, and the other which passengers must keep until after they disembark… What a disaster. It was a great opportunity to make the paperwork simpler while also adding data for quarantine tracking purposes.

747FC

You make valid points, but a separate form makes sense for multiple reasons:

1. The authority responsible for tracking is different than HVB marketing. They want custody of original declarations.
2. Many locals don’t fill out the HVB form. (I’m guilty of this over decades of travel.) I would pay more attention to a new form.

tobikosan

Flew here privately with 2 others we all are staying privately and in different locations. One guy has had the police come by three times, another twice, I've only bee visited once-- Day 8

COSPILOT

Watching the news this morning it appears Kauai is the only island doing this. I’m a little surprised The other islands aren’t doing more of this.

They mentioned hopefully rolling out full time electronic monitoring will happen soon, but didn’t get very specific. I was multitasking when the news was on so maybe I missed some details.

On a bright note, today is day 7 of quarantine for my wife and kids. They are keeping sane and getting along well, but they are growing tired of staring at the ocean but can’t go to it.😷

ExpatExp

Yes, I also agree those could be some potential issues. Fortunately, they seem to be easily resolved with a sensible approach, and the introduction of this new form represents (represented?) a good opportunity to make improvements. Technological, logistical, and privacy problems have already been addressed with the existing system, which uses one piece of paper to collect data for two different agencies.

Document custody would also seem to be easily managed and shared, especially when the information on the forms is already stored electronically. Perhaps some agencies would want to fight over the hard copies, but that's something which could be easily addressed further up the ladder. As for not filling out the form, the new required checks of each arriving passenger should already take care of that potential issue.

Considering that the future will, once again, bring a large number of domestic and international tourists to Hawaii, what would really seem to make sense is one form, professionally designed, with easy-to-follow directions for those who speak and don't speak English well, which would be handed to authorities by the passenger after exiting the aircraft.

Does this mean there are now three different paper forms (on a total of two different pieces of paper) required for arriving domestic passengers who have not submitted data on the Safe Travels website? That would be more than other developed island nations require for arriving international passengers

Yes, it's interesting. Kauai seems to have taken a much stronger approach from the beginning…​​​

COSPILOT

The form shown a few posts up is the form my wife filled out on the airplane. At the HNL airport she also had to sign the form shown below , and they did a test phone call to confirm the # was valid.