Two separate tickets affect connecting

Old Dec 17, 17, 10:01 pm
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Two separate tickets affect connecting

So I have a roundtrip ticket booked from SFO into OGG. This vacation involves inter-island travel and I plan to leave Kauai on the same day as my return back into SFO on January 21. Currently, I'm booked on Hawaiian Flt 42 that departs OGG at 3:30 PM. There are several nonstop flights that day from LIH into OGG.

According to Hawaiian's website, the minimum connecting time from a Neighbor Island to North America is 55 minutes. If I were to book Hawaiian Flt 244 from LIH to OGG that arrives into OGG at 1:45 PM which leaves me with 1hr 45 minutes. My question is what happens if the first flight from LIH to OGG is canceled or delayed? Does Hawaiian protect me on another flight or do they have me purchase a new ticket?
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Old Dec 18, 17, 7:11 pm
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You will not be protected if you miss the connection, and even if LIH-OGG is on time you're cutting it a little close. You'll need to collect your bags, check them back in, and go through security again at OGG. None of that is factored into MCT.

HA does a pretty good job keeping the interisland flights on time, and OGG isn't a very big airport, so you'll probably make the flight. But personally it's not a risk I'd be willing to take with no protection.
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Old Dec 18, 17, 7:16 pm
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The simple fact is that you are not connecting because you may only connect on one ticket. Thus, MCT is meaningless. If your inbound flight to OGG is delayed and you no show for your UA flight, your UA ticket will be cancelled and will retain whatever value it retains under its fare rules, typically $0 after departure. You would then need to buy a new ticket on the next flight at whatever the price of a new ticket is at that point.

The question is not whether it is possible to make the transfer you describe. It is. The question is your risk tolerance for no showing.

I would allow at least triple the MCT when transferring. Thus 3 hours. Even then.
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Old Dec 19, 17, 11:46 am
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The simple fact is that you are not connecting because you may only connect on one ticket. Thus, MCT is meaningless. If your inbound flight to OGG is delayed and you no show for your UA flight, your UA ticket will be cancelled and will retain whatever value it retains under its fare rules, typically $0 after departure. You would then need to buy a new ticket on the next flight at whatever the price of a new ticket is at that point.

The question is not whether it is possible to make the transfer you describe. It is. The question is your risk tolerance for no showing.

I would allow at least triple the MCT when transferring. Thus 3 hours. Even then.
I disagree with what you wrote 100% and yet agree with it 100%. The difference is the OP isnt flying HA connecting to UA to SFO, but is flying HA connecting to HAs OGG-SFO flight. Thusly since its all HA I believe the OP can check their bags all the way thru in LIH and no need to claim and recheck the bags, = I disagree with what you posted. Or if flyting with carry-on only

However if the OP was in fact flying on UA from OGG and not HA then I would have agreed with you

Even thou it may be 2 tkts, I would say if HA sees the OP will misconnect in OGG then they would probably fly them to say HNL to connect to SFO from there. MY UA flight to SFO was delayed by 2 hrs which meant Id miss my SFO-EWR flight and the next flight was N/A. So they put me on HA to HNL and the non-stop to EWR from there. In the end there was no need since although they had different flight #s the plane delayed into SFO was the exact same plane flying to EWR, but the HNL flight was over 1/2 e,pty while the flights via SFO were packed and I got in 1 1/2 hrs earlier to boot

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Old Dec 20, 17, 12:34 pm
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HA can thru-check the luggage on two separate HA tickets (they just won't thru-check on different airlines) so I think the transfer is not particularly risky. Just make sure you go to the counter and get check in and get both boarding passes at LIH and watch them tag the bags to SFO. If you are checked in for the OGG-SFO flight, HA will probably make sure you arrive before they leave... although it is still no guarantee and they are not obligated to accommodate you if something goes wrong since you are on two separate tickets.

You do need to put the bags thru US Mainland agriculture inspection at LIH. Normally for LIH-OGG flight you don't need to do the agriculture inspection. If there is no inspection stickers, the OGG ground handling may pull your bag out.

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Old Dec 25, 17, 1:15 pm
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Thank you for everyone's thoughtful responses. I'll be traveling on Hawaiian Airlines the whole way so no change in carriers. I'll make sure that the luggage goes through inspection at LIH. Given this, barring any major problem, I should think that I'll be able to make the connection.

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