Haneda Applications are in: HA goes from HNL/KOA hybrid
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Haneda Applications are in: HA goes from HNL/KOA hybrid
The DoT is requiring all airlines to reapply for Haneda service with the shift to daytime slots. HA has applied to keep its HNL service and add a HNL/KOA hybrid as well.
I think that HNL keeps its slot and that the HNL/KOA hybrid has a very strong chance of being awarded as it is one of the only ones I'm aware of listed as willing to take a night slot. If awarded that would serve HNL 4x weekly and KOA 3x weekly.
UA applied for EWR/SFO. AA for LAX/DFW. DL for LAX/MSP/ATL.
More details/analysis of the new Haneda slot applications on my blog if anyone cares.
(Bold codes are the cities with existing service)
I think that HNL keeps its slot and that the HNL/KOA hybrid has a very strong chance of being awarded as it is one of the only ones I'm aware of listed as willing to take a night slot. If awarded that would serve HNL 4x weekly and KOA 3x weekly.
UA applied for EWR/SFO. AA for LAX/DFW. DL for LAX/MSP/ATL.
More details/analysis of the new Haneda slot applications on my blog if anyone cares.
(Bold codes are the cities with existing service)
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As the only applicant for the nighttime frequency, HA is certain to win that one. I would not bank on HA winning a second frequency - I don't see the DoT providing one-third of the USA's six slots so that HA can carry Japanese beach tourists. Sure, that boosts the economy of the islands, but HA doesn't provide nonstop service from the lower 48 to business people who prefer HND over NRT. HA could always begin new flights to NRT and achieve the same benefits to the economy.
Here is HA's answer:
https://www.regulations.gov/#!docume...2016-0048-0011
Here is the docket in case someone wants to read the other filings:
https://www.regulations.gov/#!docket...-OST-2016-0048
Here is HA's answer:
https://www.regulations.gov/#!docume...2016-0048-0011
Here is the docket in case someone wants to read the other filings:
https://www.regulations.gov/#!docket...-OST-2016-0048
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There have been international operations there in the past, so it can be done. There are provisions for a temporary facility, while a permanent facility is built as a part of the KOA modernization project. HAL has until January at the latest to start the service, so there is still some time to find a solution to this challenge.
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Tentative decision is in from the DOT on the 5 daytime HND slots:
HA: HNL
UA: SFO
AA: LAX
DL: LAX, MSP
Docket link below:
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2016-0048-0070
Assuming this is finalised, HA will have two slots to HND...the daytime slot for daily HNL-HND and the new night slot for split HNL/KOA that was awarded to them two months ago.
HA: HNL
UA: SFO
AA: LAX
DL: LAX, MSP
Docket link below:
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2016-0048-0070
Assuming this is finalised, HA will have two slots to HND...the daytime slot for daily HNL-HND and the new night slot for split HNL/KOA that was awarded to them two months ago.
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Also with new flight that will be 5 Japan flights a day (Narita, Haneda X2, Kansia and Chitose-Sapporo, is the airline with most flight between Japan and Hawaii?
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Yeah, it was once DL with 2 747s/1 A330 to NRT, 1 747 to KIX, and one 767 to NGO and FUK. The decline of the Yen hit them very hard. Also JAL is in much better financial shape compared to five years ago.
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But I recently read somewhere that Japan is looking at doing it as well in South Korea and Taiwan, but not in Hawaii.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...pre-clearance/
-David
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