Consolidated "Hawaiian Airlines HNL-JFK service" Thread
Feb 23, 2012, 8:53 am
#62
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Not sure. If it's T5 as rumored, don't think there is a big airport lounge other than the landside Moroso Lounge with somewhat funky furniture: http://t508.wordpress.com/2008/10/22...-house-645-am/
HA does have codeshare alliances with other carriers so it's possible they might allow F class passengers into their lounge in another terminal. Although due to security considerations an independent landside lounge like the Oasis or the the Lounge in T4 might be easier to access (and are definitely accessible using a Priority Pass card).
HA does have codeshare alliances with other carriers so it's possible they might allow F class passengers into their lounge in another terminal. Although due to security considerations an independent landside lounge like the Oasis or the the Lounge in T4 might be easier to access (and are definitely accessible using a Priority Pass card).
I believe that the wide-body is only able to use the gate at the end of the "high" number pier so that won't be a particularly convenient place to sit but it also isn't more than a 5 minute walk.
Mar 6, 2012, 2:57 am
#63
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Just booked two in first for JFK-HNL during the holidays. Great deal, using miles. Looking forward to my first longhaul flight on HA ^
Looks like it will be T5 and no lounge at JFK, so probably not worth arriving too early. Would appreciate any suggestions about what to order to eat/drink on board -- will with a few other friends and we'll want to make the most of it!
Now just waiting for HA to start nonstop LON-HNL…
Looks like it will be T5 and no lounge at JFK, so probably not worth arriving too early. Would appreciate any suggestions about what to order to eat/drink on board -- will with a few other friends and we'll want to make the most of it!
Now just waiting for HA to start nonstop LON-HNL…
Mar 7, 2012, 11:04 am
#64
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Curious Timing
While I am psyched to have HA in the NY market, especially as I contemplate taking the family to LIH this summer, I'm less enthused about the timing of the flights, especially on the return to JFK.
The flight leaves HNL at 3 p.m., which gets you in around 7 a.m. That's all well and good if you can plop into your seat and hit the hay. I'm not one of those people. Nor can I contemplate encouraging my kids to go to to sleep. If they were still on Hawaii time, they might conk out five or six hours into the flight, but then have to be roused three hours later to get off. Knowing me, I might nod off on final approach.
All this is by way of saying the now-UA HNL-EWR has better timing, leaving at 7:25 p.m. With a little pharmaceutical help and your circadian rhythms, you're more likely to get in some Zs on that trip.
As much as I like HA, contemplating the fallout from the potential extended jet lag of that trip, especially from a 5- and 7-year-old, gives me pause. I hope they might contemplate some timing adjustrments going forward.
The flight leaves HNL at 3 p.m., which gets you in around 7 a.m. That's all well and good if you can plop into your seat and hit the hay. I'm not one of those people. Nor can I contemplate encouraging my kids to go to to sleep. If they were still on Hawaii time, they might conk out five or six hours into the flight, but then have to be roused three hours later to get off. Knowing me, I might nod off on final approach.
All this is by way of saying the now-UA HNL-EWR has better timing, leaving at 7:25 p.m. With a little pharmaceutical help and your circadian rhythms, you're more likely to get in some Zs on that trip.
As much as I like HA, contemplating the fallout from the potential extended jet lag of that trip, especially from a 5- and 7-year-old, gives me pause. I hope they might contemplate some timing adjustrments going forward.
Mar 7, 2012, 1:05 pm
#65
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While I am psyched to have HA in the NY market, especially as I contemplate taking the family to LIH this summer, I'm less enthused about the timing of the flights, especially on the return to JFK.
The flight leaves HNL at 3 p.m., which gets you in around 7 a.m. That's all well and good if you can plop into your seat and hit the hay. I'm not one of those people. Nor can I contemplate encouraging my kids to go to to sleep. If they were still on Hawaii time, they might conk out five or six hours into the flight, but then have to be roused three hours later to get off. Knowing me, I might nod off on final approach.
All this is by way of saying the now-UA HNL-EWR has better timing, leaving at 7:25 p.m. With a little pharmaceutical help and your circadian rhythms, you're more likely to get in some Zs on that trip.
As much as I like HA, contemplating the fallout from the potential extended jet lag of that trip, especially from a 5- and 7-year-old, gives me pause. I hope they might contemplate some timing adjustrments going forward.
The flight leaves HNL at 3 p.m., which gets you in around 7 a.m. That's all well and good if you can plop into your seat and hit the hay. I'm not one of those people. Nor can I contemplate encouraging my kids to go to to sleep. If they were still on Hawaii time, they might conk out five or six hours into the flight, but then have to be roused three hours later to get off. Knowing me, I might nod off on final approach.
All this is by way of saying the now-UA HNL-EWR has better timing, leaving at 7:25 p.m. With a little pharmaceutical help and your circadian rhythms, you're more likely to get in some Zs on that trip.
As much as I like HA, contemplating the fallout from the potential extended jet lag of that trip, especially from a 5- and 7-year-old, gives me pause. I hope they might contemplate some timing adjustrments going forward.
Mar 7, 2012, 1:22 pm
#66
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Aircraft utilization is probably significant as well, as an earlier departure and an earlier arrival into HNL probably works well if they are going to use the aircraft on Asia flights.
Mar 7, 2012, 9:33 pm
#67
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If UA could land a few hours later at EWR, where I suspect more than a few people also have to connect at the hub, HA could do something similar at JFK.
It may not be designed for sleeping comfort, but I suspect I wouldn't be the only miserable passenger, especially if I had to make a connection after a 9-hour plus flight.
Mar 9, 2012, 2:36 pm
#69
Join Date: May 2011
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Sticker Shock /// JFK - HNL - LIH
I purchase First Class tickets on the JFK / HNL / JFK flight for this June.
At the time it was not possible to book the connecting Interisland flight -- IT problems at HA.
I finally got around to booking the Interisland --- the fares are outrageous.
I travel at 3 times a year --- and I have never seen fares this high ---
for 2 round-trip tickets HNL / LIH it is just under $600.00 (in coach).
Obviously HA doesn't miss Aloha Airlines. ( I do -- pricing reasons only).
Cheers!!!!!
At the time it was not possible to book the connecting Interisland flight -- IT problems at HA.
I finally got around to booking the Interisland --- the fares are outrageous.
I travel at 3 times a year --- and I have never seen fares this high ---
for 2 round-trip tickets HNL / LIH it is just under $600.00 (in coach).
Obviously HA doesn't miss Aloha Airlines. ( I do -- pricing reasons only).
Cheers!!!!!
Mar 10, 2012, 12:57 pm
#71
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I purchase First Class tickets on the JFK / HNL / JFK flight for this June.
At the time it was not possible to book the connecting Interisland flight -- IT problems at HA.
I finally got around to booking the Interisland --- the fares are outrageous.
I travel at 3 times a year --- and I have never seen fares this high ---
for 2 round-trip tickets HNL / LIH it is just under $600.00 (in coach).
Obviously HA doesn't miss Aloha Airlines. ( I do -- pricing reasons only).
Cheers!!!!!
At the time it was not possible to book the connecting Interisland flight -- IT problems at HA.
I finally got around to booking the Interisland --- the fares are outrageous.
I travel at 3 times a year --- and I have never seen fares this high ---
for 2 round-trip tickets HNL / LIH it is just under $600.00 (in coach).
Obviously HA doesn't miss Aloha Airlines. ( I do -- pricing reasons only).
Cheers!!!!!
Last edited by tdowl5757; Mar 10, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Mar 13, 2012, 5:36 pm
#72
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I purchase First Class tickets on the JFK / HNL / JFK flight for this June.
At the time it was not possible to book the connecting Interisland flight -- IT problems at HA.
I finally got around to booking the Interisland --- the fares are outrageous.
I travel at 3 times a year --- and I have never seen fares this high ---
for 2 round-trip tickets HNL / LIH it is just under $600.00 (in coach).
Obviously HA doesn't miss Aloha Airlines. ( I do -- pricing reasons only).
Cheers!!!!!
At the time it was not possible to book the connecting Interisland flight -- IT problems at HA.
I finally got around to booking the Interisland --- the fares are outrageous.
I travel at 3 times a year --- and I have never seen fares this high ---
for 2 round-trip tickets HNL / LIH it is just under $600.00 (in coach).
Obviously HA doesn't miss Aloha Airlines. ( I do -- pricing reasons only).
Cheers!!!!!
Mar 14, 2012, 5:53 pm
#73
Join Date: May 2011
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Interisland HA
As I mentioned I found the fares for our June trip ( 6/8-12) higher than in the past.......
We have the 3:46 from HNL to LIH
and on the return the afternoon connection from LIH to HNL for the flight to JFK.
On the flight HNL to LIH I took the fare (an additional $10) in case we miss the the 3:46 and have to wait for the next flight -- without a penalty. We travel light and make quick connections ---to get to LIH as soon as possible.
Recently I have been taking AA from either JFK/EWR to LAX the evening before and then the morning flight from LAX directly to LIH. I think I really prefer this instead of the non stop to HNL and then the Interisland.
On the return LIH / LAX / JFK on AA 30 ---
After all the years of doing this trip -- I think after this trip I will go back to the overnight / early morning LAX connection especially having just paid a tad under $600 for 2 Interisland flights.
Best
We have the 3:46 from HNL to LIH
and on the return the afternoon connection from LIH to HNL for the flight to JFK.
On the flight HNL to LIH I took the fare (an additional $10) in case we miss the the 3:46 and have to wait for the next flight -- without a penalty. We travel light and make quick connections ---to get to LIH as soon as possible.
Recently I have been taking AA from either JFK/EWR to LAX the evening before and then the morning flight from LAX directly to LIH. I think I really prefer this instead of the non stop to HNL and then the Interisland.
On the return LIH / LAX / JFK on AA 30 ---
After all the years of doing this trip -- I think after this trip I will go back to the overnight / early morning LAX connection especially having just paid a tad under $600 for 2 Interisland flights.
Best
Mar 15, 2012, 8:01 pm
#75
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I'd also appreciate any HA upgrade advice/info from regulars, especially for the JFK/HNL route, such as using EF to check inventory.