FRA Connections
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 21
FRA Connections
Hello!
I will be traveling from Italy to the USA via Frankfurt. I meet one of the exceptions for not having a negative covid test for entry into the USA, but am worried about the transfer in FRA.
When landing in FRA from Italy, will I be allowed to transit into my USA flight without a test?
thanks!
I will be traveling from Italy to the USA via Frankfurt. I meet one of the exceptions for not having a negative covid test for entry into the USA, but am worried about the transfer in FRA.
When landing in FRA from Italy, will I be allowed to transit into my USA flight without a test?
thanks!
Last edited by tas246; Apr 2, 2021 at 6:44 am
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold, HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,181
A reminder that with the current restrictions to travel from Frankfurt to the USA, you would need to be a US citizen/resident or hold one of the several visa types that are exempted by the Presidential Proclamation.
Also, yes, Germany has implemented a new rule that all arriving passengers ( including transit passengers ) must have a negative COVID test taken at most 48 hours before arrival.
Also, yes, Germany has implemented a new rule that all arriving passengers ( including transit passengers ) must have a negative COVID test taken at most 48 hours before arrival.
#4
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
What is your citizenship or residency? Unless you are a US citizen or LPR you wont be permitted entry to the US on this itinerary and will likely be denied boarding in Italy. Is this on one ticket or two?
#5
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, Oneworld Silver
Posts: 727
Hi... Does anyone know if there is a security check and a passport check when going from:
- Z to A, and
- B to A. ?
Just thinking of whether to book a slightly tighter connection than normal...
- Z to A, and
- B to A. ?
Just thinking of whether to book a slightly tighter connection than normal...
#6
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold, HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,181
Z -> A - If you arrive from a clean destination no security would be involved; if you arrive from a non-clean destination security would be involved.
Non-Schengen B -> A - You must clear security in all circumstances.
Schengen B -> A - No security is required.
Passport Control:
Non-Schengen to Schengen -> Of course you have passport control
Schengen to Schengen -> No passport control
#7
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, Oneworld Silver
Posts: 727
Security:
Z -> A - If you arrive from a clean destination no security would be involved; if you arrive from a non-clean destination security would be involved.
Non-Schengen B -> A - You must clear security in all circumstances.
Schengen B -> A - No security is required.
Passport Control:
Non-Schengen to Schengen -> Of course you have passport control
Schengen to Schengen -> No passport control
Z -> A - If you arrive from a clean destination no security would be involved; if you arrive from a non-clean destination security would be involved.
Non-Schengen B -> A - You must clear security in all circumstances.
Schengen B -> A - No security is required.
Passport Control:
Non-Schengen to Schengen -> Of course you have passport control
Schengen to Schengen -> No passport control
Im intrigued about the clean destination bit... I recently flew Non-Schengen - MUC - Schengen... I was surprised there was no security at MUC, even though of course there was passport control... Is there a list of clean destinations defined by Germany? Or is it kept secret...? ... Or do different Lnder (Bavaria and Hessen) treat it differently?
#8
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold, HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,181
Thank you as always for your quick and high quality answer, ISTFlyer!!
I’m intrigued about the “clean destination” bit... I recently flew Non-Schengen - MUC - Schengen... I was surprised there was no security at MUC, even though of course there was passport control... Is there a list of “clean” destinations defined by Germany? Or is it kept secret...? ... Or do different Lnder (Bavaria and Hessen) treat it differently?
I’m intrigued about the “clean destination” bit... I recently flew Non-Schengen - MUC - Schengen... I was surprised there was no security at MUC, even though of course there was passport control... Is there a list of “clean” destinations defined by Germany? Or is it kept secret...? ... Or do different Lnder (Bavaria and Hessen) treat it differently?
- The USA, Canada, Romania, Croatia, Bulgaria are clean.
- Turkey, India, Central South American countries are not clean.
#9
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, Oneworld Silver
Posts: 727
.... I see... So in that case, why the difference in traffic from B to A (definitely security) and Z to A (security only from non-clean) ? After all, an arriving flight from, say, USA can arrive on B or on Z, cant it...??
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold, HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,181
Pre-COVID, there was a B60->Z13 airside shuttle for passengers arriving from a clean destination at Non-Schengen B to not re-clear security but that is discontinued since COVID.
#11
Join Date: May 2018
Location: FRA
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 1,455
Even if you arrive clean in non-Schengen B there is no way to get to A/Z without exiting the secure zone.
#12
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, Oneworld Silver
Posts: 727
So...
If I go B to A... I will definitely have security, even if I use the tunnel...?
If I go Z to A, I might have security or might not. I still dont get how they decide... Are some Z gates for clean arrivals and some for non-clean? Or does it depend on whether a clean and non-clean flight come in at the same time, meaning that all transfer pax then have to go through security?
If I go B to A... I will definitely have security, even if I use the tunnel...?
If I go Z to A, I might have security or might not. I still dont get how they decide... Are some Z gates for clean arrivals and some for non-clean? Or does it depend on whether a clean and non-clean flight come in at the same time, meaning that all transfer pax then have to go through security?
#13
Join Date: May 2018
Location: FRA
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 1,455
If I go Z to A, I might have security or might not. I still dont get how they decide... Are some Z gates for clean arrivals and some for non-clean? Or does it depend on whether a clean and non-clean flight come in at the same time, meaning that all transfer pax then have to go through security?
Both B and Z gates can operate clean (you just walk into the secure area) or dirty (B gate you are routed to non-secure corridors, Z you get put on a bus).
#14
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, Oneworld Silver
Posts: 727
I have also recently used it to go from A to non-Schengen B.... No security.
.. And it must be possible to use it in the other direction, I guess, because there was a moving walkway going in the other direction with people on it...
.... And I guess if a clean and non-clean flight arrive on stand at a similar time on Z, all pax have to be treated as non-clean...? Maybe they try to avoid that happening.
.. And it must be possible to use it in the other direction, I guess, because there was a moving walkway going in the other direction with people on it...
.... And I guess if a clean and non-clean flight arrive on stand at a similar time on Z, all pax have to be treated as non-clean...? Maybe they try to avoid that happening.
Last edited by FlyerLX; Jul 31, 2021 at 2:35 pm
#15
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold, HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,181
There is no Non-Schengen->Schengen passport control located in airside Non-Schengen B, thus the only way is to go upstairs, leave the secure area and clear passport control over there.
Passengers arriving from a non-clean arrival would be released at Level 4 and clean Non-Schengen arrivals would be released into Level 3.