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IMH Jan 30, 2018 8:44 am


Originally Posted by flugvergnugen (Post 29067233)
Ok, for future reference, keep in mind Wismar, Stralsund, or Greifswald, which are larger than Warnemuende, and pretty towns.

Or Kühlungsborn or Heiligendamm or the Fischland-Darß-Zingst peninsula. Smaller towns than Warnemünde, and not as close to Rostock and mainline trains, but prettier. Or Rügen. Or Hiddensee.

Ber2dca Jan 30, 2018 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 29049272)
Food theme is the same at all German cities. Individual restaurants are replaced by chain eateries. Otherwise I don’t share your opinion about Dresden.

Still plenty of independent and decent restaurants in most German cities including Dresden. Certainly less chain places than in America or even the UK. I would also agree that Dresden is still a great place to visit (and in fact likely a better place to visit now than it would have been 20 years ago). I was there once in the 80s and now *that* was kinda grim.

puchong Feb 3, 2018 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by flugvergnugen (Post 29067233)
Ok, for future reference, keep in mind Wismar, Stralsund, or Greifswald, which are larger than Warnemuende, and pretty towns.

All this, along with Warnemuende and indeed Dresden too, sounds very interesting. But how safe are these places to visit, in today's Germany, for people of colour?

bitterproffit Feb 3, 2018 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by puchong (Post 29376902)
All this, along with Warnemuende and indeed Dresden too, sounds very interesting. But how safe are these places to visit, in today's Germany, for people of colour?

As a POC, I have never had an issue anywhere in Germany. I have never even felt the least bit uncomfortable in Germany. I don't think I would ever even give it a thought. Unless somethings have changed since last year, I expect that I will experience the same welcome I always have.

offerendum Feb 4, 2018 8:50 am


Originally Posted by puchong (Post 29376902)
All this, along with Warnemuende and indeed Dresden too, sounds very interesting. But how safe are these places to visit, in today's Germany, for people of colour?

Germany today? Germany is no battlefield. It’s absolutely safe, no need to bother.

puchong Feb 4, 2018 9:49 am


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 29378030)
Germany today? Germany is no battlefield. It’s absolutely safe, no need to bother.


Originally Posted by bitterproffit (Post 29376938)
As a POC, I have never had an issue anywhere in Germany. I have never even felt the least bit uncomfortable in Germany. I don't think I would ever even give it a thought. Unless somethings have changed since last year, I expect that I will experience the same welcome I always have.

Don't mean to argue or debate, but are the very frequent recent reports of attacks on POC, especially in the former DDR, all fake news?

bitterproffit Feb 4, 2018 10:02 am

I can only address my personal experiences. I've been traveling to Germany since the 80s. Obviously, mostly in the west until the 90s.. I have driven all over, taken trains, busses, planes, etc. I can not think of one racial incident that I have experienced. There are counties in my own state where I often feel uncomfortable, but I have never felt that way in Germany.

I wish I could remember all of the hundreds of Germans I have met who have extended warm welcomes and I have worked with, dined with, gotten drunk with, laughed with. It is truly one of my favorite countries on the planet. That being said, like anywhere else, be aware of your surroundings and know where you are. Although, I have felt pretty safe stumbling through Berlin at dawn after a crazy night.

offerendum Feb 4, 2018 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by puchong (Post 29378192)
Don't mean to argue or debate, but are the very frequent recent reports of attacks on POC, especially in the former DDR, all fake news?

Wouldn´t say fake news but it´s not as frequent as you may think. If you consider how many POC are in Germany and how many attacs there are it´s of course a problem but not that dramatic as people think. If you consider further that many of this attacs are against dedicated refugees homes etc. the risk for a POC in Germany is very low. I guess the relative frequency of such attacs is much higher in many parts of the US.

Ber2dca Feb 4, 2018 12:54 pm

The chance of being attacked for being a "POC" in Dresden or Warnemuende is much smaller than the odds of being mugged and assaulted by criminals in Berlin, Paris, London etc.

offerendum Feb 4, 2018 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by Ber2dca (Post 29378802)
The chance of being attacked for being a "POC" in Dresden or Warnemuende is much smaller than the odds of being mugged and assaulted by criminals in Berlin, Paris, London etc.

Absolutely double this!

Flying Lawyer Feb 5, 2018 9:55 am


Originally Posted by puchong (Post 29376902)
All this, along with Warnemuende and indeed Dresden too, sounds very interesting. But how safe are these places to visit, in today's Germany, for people of colour?

Certainly safer than any visit to the US for people of any color. Germany has 0,7 murders per year per 100.000 inhabitants, the US offer four times as much,

offerendum Feb 5, 2018 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer (Post 29381897)
Certainly safer than any visit to the US for people of any color. Germany has 0,7 murders per year per 100.000 inhabitants, the US offer four times as much,

And many of this around 400 murders are out of a relationship. In the US in 2016 it was 5,3 on 100 T,

If you ask for right-wing Acts of violence (which includes violance against POC out of raciest Motives) it were in whole Germany 1600 in 2016, 1190 were against foreigners. Included is every act of violance, also against left-wing groups etc. Also many acts are against accomodations of refugees (153) so I guess there are perhaps maximum 500 acts per year in whole Germany against POC. which are normally no tourists If you consider this it´s very very unlikely you are a victim as a tourist.


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