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Analise Jul 17, 2013 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 21115801)
The S-Bahn is actually run by Deutsche Bahn. BVG is the transport network for the city of Berlin. However, for the passenger using a transport ticket from either source, it makes no difference. If your journey starts off with a tram ride, changing to an U-Bahn line, and then to an S-Bahn train, you can use the same ticket for that journey as long as it is within 2 hours (if using a simple ticket) and you don't backtrack. You can basically buy the same transport tickets for Berlin from the S-Bahn or from the BVG. Berlin uses the honor system. No fare gates. However, you do have to show the bus drivers a valid ticket when you board one. And tickets need to be validated from a time stamp machine on a station platform (normally adjacent to a ticket vending machine), on a tram, or on a bus.

This "ticket" is the DB ticket I printed on my home printer on 8 1/2 inch by 11 inch paper. Do I just go to the stamp machine and have it time stamp any part of that piece of paper?


The City Mobil supplement you purchased from DB is actually good for all of the transport networks in Berlin once you arrive and go to your final destination in the city. Without that supplement, you're only allowed to use the S-Bahn network. Or one of the regional trains (RB) as long as you're within the AB zones in Berlin. So when you go to Leipzig and back, you can use your DB ticket to get to/from the Hauptbahnhof using the S-Bahn network. Is it the Zoologischer Garten station you'll be staying near?
I think so. Google Maps says it's an 8 minute walk. I called the hotel and was told it was a 15 minute walk.

Fanjet Jul 18, 2013 12:16 am


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 21116117)
This "ticket" is the DB ticket I printed on my home printer on 8 1/2 inch by 11 inch paper. Do I just go to the stamp machine and have it time stamp any part of that piece of paper?

I think so. Google Maps says it's an 8 minute walk. I called the hotel and was told it was a 15 minute walk.

No. The tickets that need time stamping are the ones you buy for travel in Berlin. The S-Bahn stations have machines for this. They look slightly different than the ones that are vended out of BVG machines, but they are the same things. ALL need to be time stamped.

The DB ticket you printed online is for your long-distance journeys. I take it you bought advance saver tickets that are for specific dates and trains? They will have the dates of your travel printed on them. So if you take the S-Bahn to/from the Hauptbahnhof in connection with these journeys, you just show that online ticket to a plainsclothed "spot checker" just in case there is an inspection on your S-Bahn train. No need to stamp anything.

I don't know where you're staying. But the stations before and after the ZG station are Tiergarten and Savigny Platz. You might be closer to one of those.

MichaelBrighton Jul 18, 2013 1:38 am


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 21115689)
It is? German tends to use the -ie ending for the same words in English that use a -y ending. And "des" means "of the" in English. Anyway, I went there a few years ago. It's alright. And it's in a beautiful building.

It is not French, it is German. "des" is the possessive form.

Analise Jul 18, 2013 5:38 am


Originally Posted by Fanjet (Post 21116976)
No. The tickets that need time stamping are the ones you buy for travel in Berlin. The S-Bahn stations have machines for this. They look slightly different than the ones that are vended out of BVG machines, but they are the same things. ALL need to be time stamped.

The DB ticket you printed online is for your long-distance journeys. I take it you bought advance saver tickets that are for specific dates and trains? They will have the dates of your travel printed on them. So if you take the S-Bahn to/from the Hauptbahnhof in connection with these journeys, you just show that online ticket to a plainsclothed "spot checker" just in case there is an inspection on your S-Bahn train. No need to stamp anything.

Yes, it's an advanced saver ticket. So then I don't need to time stamp the paper I printed at home. Thanks.

Your advice has helped me to decide which BVG tickets to buy while I'm in Berlin. Thank you! I will buy 3 day passes that cost 6.50€ each.

I do have two questions about the day passes. Can I buy the 3 day passes at the same time (when I arrive from FRA) at the BVG machine at Berlin HBF? If I can, will I be able to validate the day pass at the Ubahn if it is the first public transportation I take that day?

linglingfool Jul 18, 2013 7:12 am


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 21117750)
Your advice has helped me to decide which BVG tickets to buy while I'm in Berlin. Thank you! I will buy 3 day passes that cost 6.50€ each.

Not that it matters, but there are slight fare increases going into effect August 1st, see here (€6.70 for AB day tickets).


I do have two questions about the day passes. Can I buy the 3 day passes at the same time (when I arrive from FRA) at the BVG machine at Berlin HBF? If I can, will I be able to validate the day pass at the Ubahn if it is the first public transportation I take that day?
You can purchase all three at the BVG machine at once and validate them individually each day. All S- and U-Bahn platforms have ticket validation machines on them.

Analise Jul 18, 2013 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by linglingfool (Post 21118078)
Not that it matters, but there are slight fare increases going into effect August 1st, see here (€6.70 for AB day tickets).

Thank you for letting me know. The price increase seems small. I didn't see price increases for the Welcome Card options. It wouldn't matter anyway for me.

I see two listings I don't understand. I see a new option called "4-Fahrten-Karte Kurzstrecke" for 5.60€ and I see "4-Fahrten-Karte Einzelfahrausweis" for 8.80€. Google Translate didn't help me understand. What is the difference between these two options as they seem like a card for 4 single tickets (one way) but one card is more expensive than the other.


You can purchase all three at the BVG machine at once and validate them individually each day. All S- and U-Bahn platforms have ticket validation machines on them.
Great. Thanks.

Just curious, when I arrive at the Frankfurt HBF after my trip to Berlin, will I be able to get a free ride on the S-Bahn from the Frankfurt HBF to my hotel as I can in Berlin? Or is that option only available in Berlin?

Fanjet Jul 18, 2013 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 21120238)
Thank you for letting me know. The price increase seems small. I didn't see price increases for the Welcome Card options. It wouldn't matter anyway for me.

I see two listings I don't understand. I see a new option called "4-Fahrten-Karte Kurzstrecke" for 5.60€ and I see "4-Fahrten-Karte Einzelfahrausweis" for 8.80€. Google Translate didn't help me understand. What is the difference between these two options as they seem like a card for 4 single tickets (one way) but one card is more expensive than the other.

Great. Thanks.

Just curious, when I arrive at the Frankfurt HBF after my trip to Berlin, will I be able to get a free ride on the S-Bahn from the Frankfurt HBF to my hotel as I can in Berlin? Or is that option only available in Berlin?

The "4-Fahrten-Karten" are basically dispensed as 4 individual tickets, numbered 1,2,3,&4. They offer a slight discount than if you bought 4 one-way tickets one-by-one. But they are basically the same things. And it appears that they went up in price a little. A "Kurzstrecke" is basically a short journey. They are good for an S-Bahn or U-Bahn journey no more than 3 stations away from your originating station. So that would be Zoologischer Garten to the Hauptbahnhof, for example, which is 3 stations away. Or a bus or tram ride, no more than 6 stops away from your original stop of embarquement.

As for Frankfurt. Yes you can use the ticket on the S-Bahn. But where is your hotel? Is it in the city proper? It has to be within the city zone. So the airport is beyond that zone, for example. And another note. When you buy a transport ticket in Frankfurt, it becomes valid right away. No time stamping. And I think they are good for no more than 90 minutes.

Analise Jul 18, 2013 2:51 pm

Thanks for the clarification.

As for Frankfurt, I'm not flying there from Berlin but rather taking the DB into Frankfurt HBF. Of all of the times I've flown in and out of Frankfurt, I've never spent time in the city so I made some time to visit Frankfurt on my last full day in Germany.

spankytoes Jul 18, 2013 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 21120649)
Thanks for the clarification.

As for Frankfurt, I'm not flying there from Berlin but rather taking the DB into Frankfurt HBF. Of all of the times I've flown in and out of Frankfurt, I've never spent time in the city so I made some time to visit Frankfurt on my last full day in Germany.

Prepare to be underwhelmed

linglingfool Jul 18, 2013 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by spankytoes (Post 21121727)
Prepare to be underwhelmed

What do you mean? A visit to the observation deck and a walk around the Altstadt could easily take an hour, maybe even an hour and a half.

CubsFanJohn Jul 20, 2013 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by Bigzamboni (Post 21102201)

Originally Posted by CubsFanJohn (Post 21097388)
If you get the chance I would recommend a visit to the Holocaust Memorial in Berlin. Very moving.

Until you see some group of school kids on a class trip using it to play hide and seek or similar. -.- But should be late enough in the year to avoid that.

Thankfully I missed that childish behavior when I was there.

AlanInDC Jul 28, 2013 6:51 am

Though kitschy I kinda liked the Checkpoint Charlie museum. My recollection of the New National Gallery was a little underwhelming though, compared to its grand name. The Jewish museum definitely worth a look.

You're obviously into the arts and history, so you can only scratch the surface of Berlin in a couple of days. I spent a full week there in a visit and had no time to be bored.

Frankfurt has enough for a weekend -- for a start, it has good museums--can easily spend a full day at the museums on/near the river. I took a walking tour of 3.5 hours that begins in front of the tourist office (but the tour itself is a private affair) -- excellent, and was about 14 euros. There is a lot of history to Frankfurt over the centuries.

Analise Jul 28, 2013 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by AlanInDC (Post 21170543)
Though kitschy I kinda liked the Checkpoint Charlie museum. My recollection of the New National Gallery was a little underwhelming though, compared to its grand name. The Jewish museum definitely worth a look.

I haven't seen much of the Bauhaus so I might take a look.


You're obviously into the arts and history, so you can only scratch the surface of Berlin in a couple of days. I spent a full week there in a visit and had no time to be bored.
Indeed I am and am aware that I can only see so much in 3 full days. I don't want to rush around and thereby exhaust myself. I will have to pick and choose. I always advise NYC tourists not to rush to see everything because they'll end up not really seeing anything. So I'll follow my advice.


Frankfurt has enough for a weekend -- for a start, it has good museums--can easily spend a full day at the museums on/near the river. I took a walking tour of 3.5 hours that begins in front of the tourist office (but the tour itself is a private affair) -- excellent, and was about 14 euros. There is a lot of history to Frankfurt over the centuries.
I want to walk around the old city. I'll check out the walking tour. I was advised to find a restaurant for dinner in the Sachsenhausen south of the river.

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