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skiwindham Dec 6, 2011 9:01 pm

Munich Airport Question
 
We are departing from Terminal 2 but have access to Lounges in Terminal 1 (via Priority Pass). Questions..after checking in at T2 and going through security, can you easily walk to T1 without leaving the secure area? How long is the walk from T1 to T2?

oliver2002 Dec 7, 2011 2:10 am

5-10 minutes, but your problem will be getting airside to access the PP lounges... security won't let you go airside with T2 boarding passes.

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Lounge Information
Airport: munich - Franz-Josef Strauss, Terminal 1
Lounge: europa lounge

Location: Airside - Module D, Level 5 (Schengen Area). Take the stairs or elevator to the transfer corridor and follow signs to where the Lounge is located.

Opening Hours: 06:00 - 20:30 daily.

Conditions: Children under 2 years are admitted free - Non-smoking.

Lounge Facilities: Air Conditioning Alcohol Available Flight Information Monitor Internet/Dataport Newspapers/Magazines Available Refreshments Available Television WiFi Available
Airport: munich - Franz-Josef Strauss, Terminal 1
Lounge: atlantic lounge

Location: Airside - Module C, Level 5 (Non-Schengen Area). There is direct elevator access to the Lounge behind Passport and Security Control.

Opening Hours: 06:00 - 23:00 daily.

Conditions: Children under 2 years are admitted free - Non-smoking.

Lounge Facilities: Air Conditioning Alcohol Available Disabled Access Flight Information Monitor Internet/Dataport Newspapers/Magazines Available Refreshments Available Showers Available Television WiFi Available


There is an airside interterminal bus between T1 and T2 which runs every 10-15 mins. You could try and use that one to get airside in T1 and walk back to T2 when you want.

skiwindham Dec 7, 2011 5:29 am

So if I understand correctly, you cannot walk from T2 to T! without leaving the secured area?

flyingfkb Dec 7, 2011 5:30 am


Originally Posted by skiwindham (Post 17581731)
So if I understand correctly, you cannot walk from T2 to T! without leaving the secured area?

Yes, you understood right. The buildings are completey seperated.

oliver2002 Dec 7, 2011 6:21 am

Take a look at the maps:
http://www.munich-airport.de/en/cons.../MAC/index.jsp

Time traveller Jan 5, 2012 9:59 pm

What is the minimum connection time for a long-haul international flight (from the US) to short-haul domestic flight at MUC (both flights on Lufthansa)? I see a 30 minute connecting flight show up when checking flights on continental.com website and am wondering if this is doable, especially as, I assume, you need to go through passport control at MUC.

NewbieRunner Jan 6, 2012 10:47 am


Originally Posted by Time traveller (Post 17757969)
What is the minimum connection time for a long-haul international flight (from the US) to short-haul domestic flight at MUC (both flights on Lufthansa)? I see a 30 minute connecting flight show up when checking flights on continental.com website and am wondering if this is doable, especially as, I assume, you need to go through passport control at MUC.

As Munich Airport's website confirms the MCT is 30 mins even when a longhaul flight is involved. If your incoming flight is not very late you should be fine. As long as you are on one ticket LH will put you on a later flight to your destination should you miss your connection.

You want to go where? Jan 6, 2012 11:08 am


Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 17761079)
As Munich Airport's website confirms the MCT is 30 mins even when a longhaul flight is involved. If your incoming flight is not very late you should be fine. As long as you are on one ticket LH will put you on a later flight to your destination should you miss your connection.

When they say minimum connect time in Munich, though, they mean it. You will need to be prompt and focused about deplaning from your longhaul and passing through immigration and security and getting to your onward flight, but you won't need to run unless your flight is late. They may even have an escort waiting at the top of the ramp to help you make your flight (although I wouldn't count on it).

That said, Munich is one of the world's most efficient airports which is why they allow a 30 minute MCT.

NewbieRunner Jan 6, 2012 11:52 am


Originally Posted by You want to go where? (Post 17761251)
You will need to be prompt and focused about deplaning from your longhaul and passing through immigration and security and getting to your onward flight, but you won't need to run unless your flight is late.

There's no need to clear security in MUC if arriving from the US.

You want to go where? Jan 6, 2012 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 17761602)
There's no need to clear security in MUC if arriving from the US.

I thought that European airports were now required to rescreen anyone not flying from within Europe. Is this only true for Munich or do you know if it applies to FRA as well (where my next connection will be)?

Good news if Europe now recognizes US screening as adequate. (If only the reverse would also be the case).

etch5895 Jan 6, 2012 12:58 pm

From personal experience, MUC will do what they need to to get you to your tight connection. More than once I've been met at the bottom of the stairs by a van waiting to take me directly to my next aircraft on a slightly late arriving flight.

NewbieRunner Jan 6, 2012 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by You want to go where? (Post 17761950)
I thought that European airports were now required to rescreen anyone not flying from within Europe. Is this only true for Munich or do you know if it applies to FRA as well (where my next connection will be)?

It also applies to other German airports but in FRA it depends on where you arrive. If your flight arrives at Z gates (former A51-65 gates) there's no need for further security. If you arrive in B or C, you'll have to clear security before your connecting flight because there's no way arrivals from the US can be segregated from pax arriving from other "unclean" countries.


Good news if Europe now recognizes US screening as adequate. (If only the reverse would also be the case).
As you will see in the article below one-stop security has been implimented in Germany (and some other countries?) but not throughout Europe.

http://presse.lufthansa.com/fileadmi...p-priority.pdf

You want to go where? Jan 7, 2012 7:52 am


Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 17764701)
It also applies to other German airports but in FRA it depends on where you arrive. If your flight arrives at Z gates (former A51-65 gates) there's no need for further security. If you arrive in B or C, you'll have to clear security before your connecting flight because there's no way arrivals from the US can be segregated from pax arriving from other "unclean" countries.


As you will see in the article below one-stop security has been implimented in Germany (and some other countries?) but not throughout Europe.

http://presse.lufthansa.com/fileadmi...p-priority.pdf

Thanks for the update, NewbieRunner. Welcome news, indeed, although too bad that there is the segregation issue in FRA, which is probably the dragnet I got caught in last time (and may again).

Time traveller Jan 7, 2012 10:23 am

The 30 minutes MCT at MUC airport is quite impressive! Most US airports would not allow a 30 minute connection on domestic connection, especially a connection that involves a long-haul international flight.

I am trying to decide if I should go for the 30 minute connection or take my time with a longer 2.5 hour connection and relax a bit at the Senator Lounge.

etch5895 Jan 7, 2012 11:26 am


Originally Posted by Time traveller (Post 17766837)
The 30 minutes MCT at MUC airport is quite impressive! Most US airports would not allow a 30 minute connection on domestic connection, especially a connection that involves a long-haul international flight.

I am trying to decide if I should go for the 30 minute connection or take my time with a longer 2.5 hour connection and relax a bit at the Senator Lounge.

If it were me, I'd go for the 2.5 hour connection and relax. If you miss the 30 minute connection and the next flight is sold out, you might have a long wait.

You want to go where? Jan 8, 2012 9:22 am


Originally Posted by etch5895 (Post 17767197)
If it were me, I'd go for the 2.5 hour connection and relax. If you miss the 30 minute connection and the next flight is sold out, you might have a long wait.

I agree. Even though MUC can process a 30 minute connection, it does add stress to the connection, and delays could be problematic.

Time traveller Jan 8, 2012 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by You want to go where? (Post 17771892)
I agree. Even though MUC can process a 30 minute connection, it does add stress to the connection, and delays could be problematic.

Decided to book the 2.5 hour connection at MUC to play it safe.

With the CO/UA merger, they are not issuing updated FF elite cards showing *G status until the merger finalizes. I wonder if the SEN lounge attendant at MUC will allow access by showing a boarding pass with *G status or if they will insist on seeing an unexpired physical card :confused:

etch5895 Jan 8, 2012 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by Time traveller (Post 17773938)
Decided to book the 2.5 hour connection at MUC to play it safe.

With the CO/UA merger, they are not issuing updated FF elite cards showing *G status until the merger finalizes. I wonder if the SEN lounge attendant at MUC will allow access by showing a boarding pass with *G status or if they will insist on seeing an unexpired physical card :confused:

I can't speak for MUC, but can speak for the FTL lounges in NUE, FRA and ZRH. As long as it is printed on your boarding card you are good to go. If you are worried, why not print out your most recent account statement and bring it along just in case and explain if they challenge you?

oliver2002 Jan 9, 2012 2:13 am

A printed statement will be fine!

CaliforniaBob Jan 16, 2012 12:00 pm

my experiences with Lufthansa (last two months): if the MCT is short
and you arrive late, three times there was an agent that drove to the
connecting leg. In fact once they got there ahead of the first local gate bus.

You clear immigration at first EU port of entry (hopefully less folks
so the non-EU lines are short or lots of all passport holders),

then if you connect, when you pick up luggage you go through customs
with red/green lines for something/nothing to declare.

Decidedly civilized.

FrequentCeejay Jan 20, 2012 7:09 am

Hi,

I did not want to open up a new thread for this and this is somehow related to connection times so I am just going to post it here.

Situation: Flight arriving from HAM at 9:40 and there's a train to be caught at the Airport Train Station at 10:04

Is this doable?

Monty_GER Jan 21, 2012 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by FrequentCeejay (Post 17850891)
Hi,

I did not want to open up a new thread for this and this is somehow related to connection times so I am just going to post it here.

Situation: Flight arriving from HAM at 9:40 and there's a train to be caught at the Airport Train Station at 10:04

Is this doable?

Do you have checked luggage? If so, I tend to say no.

It is also very likely that your flight will get a apron position.

It might work but I would not bet on it.

S.

cdepks Feb 27, 2012 6:50 am

I am somewhat confused by MUC's listing of "Levels". I am arriving on TK from IST, connecting to PHL on US. Both list T-2 as arrival/departure areas. Are these areas close? Will I need to clear additional security at the departure gate? Are there bars/restaurants in this area? Thanks for any help... (my connection is 2 hrs, so I think that is fine)

NewbieRunner Feb 27, 2012 7:36 am


Originally Posted by cdepks (Post 18089181)
I am somewhat confused by MUC's listing of "Levels". I am arriving on TK from IST, connecting to PHL on US. Both list T-2 as arrival/departure areas. Are these areas close? Will I need to clear additional security at the departure gate? Are there bars/restaurants in this area? Thanks for any help... (my connection is 2 hrs, so I think that is fine)

MUC T2 has gates on two main levels/floors (actually four but let's concentrate on the two main ones). They are marked Level G / 4 and Level 5 / H on airport maps. Level 5/H is for non-Schengen flights and both IST and PHL flights will arrive and depart on this level. In fact your arrival might be one level up on Level I and you will have to clear security to go down to Level H for your departure gate. There is no need to clear passport control. There are bars and restaurants on this level.

cdepks Mar 7, 2012 6:27 am

Trip Report
 

Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 18089370)
MUC T2 has gates on two main levels/floors (actually four but let's concentrate on the two main ones). They are marked Level G / 4 and Level 5 / H on airport maps. Level 5/H is for non-Schengen flights and both IST and PHL flights will arrive and depart on this level. In fact your arrival might be one level up on Level I and you will have to clear security to go down to Level H for your departure gate. There is no need to clear passport control. There are bars and restaurants on this level.

Maybe I just was fortunate with gates, but MUC was a very nice experience, my arrival (ground level bus to terminal), quick security and elevator up to "5", then a short walk through not really security, just a look at my passport and on to the gate area for PHL. One duty free store, one bar/cafeteria. Ground staff very nice, area not busy at all, very clean, bar was adequate. Nice thing was no additional security so I could buy a couple of bottles of iced tea and take them on-board. Overall I will avoid FRA at all costs to use MUC in the future, transfer was easy and quick, services were better than I expected.

joetro Aug 29, 2017 3:19 pm

Sorry to piggyback but not sure of a better thread.

United says to allot 3 hours for international departures, but Munich airport seems a bit smaller than others. When should I aim to check-in my bag for a 12:20 pm flight to the US on United this Sunday? Arrive say 9:30?

Also, looks like PP Lounges are only in terminal one, while my flight leaves from terminal 2, right?

oliver2002 Aug 31, 2017 3:14 am

United closes their luggage acceptance 60 min before departure. That is your only dealine. Security is done in max 10-15 min. United departs from T2 which has no pp lounge available, but plenty of inexpensive options.

asnovici Sep 13, 2017 8:00 am

T2 to T1 on separate tickets
 
Arriving on LH from DME to T2, next flight is in 90 minutes from T1 on AA, booked as separate tickets. Few questions:

- Does anyone have experience whether DME flights on LH arrive at bus gate or jet bridge?
- Would you recommend clearing immigration twice and walking from T2 to T1 or taking the shuttle that leaves every 20 minutes?

Will have hand luggage only, so no rechecking bags. Both flights are in J but I don't think it matters for immigration lines since there is no priority, only matters if we arrive at jet bridge so I can be one of the first people off the plane.

asnovici Sep 13, 2017 1:17 pm

T1 to T2 schengen
 
As we are on a roll with T2 to T1 transfer, I will try to ask another question about the opposite transfer from T1 to T2 and all Schengen.

Arriving on Air Europa T1 and leaving on Air Dolomiti T2, all Schengen. Would you take a shuttle (is there Schengen shuttle or only non Schengen? What gates does Schengen shuttle leave from at T1 and what gates does it arrive at T2?) or walk between the terminals?

Is there additional security if one takes the Schengen shuttle from T1 to T2?

Thanks

oliver2002 Sep 14, 2017 1:57 am

In both cases walking is better. Walking and security will take less than 20 minutes.

tropikey Nov 26, 2017 1:55 pm

Hi,
I'll arrive to MUC T2 (Schengen) and will have approx. 2,5 hours break before next flights from T2 (also Schengen). I'll be traveling in Y and I don't have *A status, so I won't have access to lounges in T2. However, I may use Priority Pass lounges in T1, so I'd like to go there between my flights. Is the shuttle bus between terminals the only way I can go from T2 to T1 and back from T1 to T2 without leaving transit zone and without security control? I've found a thread at tripadvisor (https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...a_Bavaria.html), where one of users claims that airside walking connection between both terminals exists (page 3 and 4). Do you know anything about such connection?

SunshineStay Nov 27, 2017 1:55 am

Iff you arrive in T2, you'll most likely come in with a Star Alliance flight.
Try this thread over in the Lufthansa forum for more information on how to go between the terminals.

tropikey Nov 27, 2017 2:12 am

That's correct, LH :)
Thanks for the link, I'll follow it.

flyingfkb Nov 27, 2017 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by tropikey (Post 29102107)
Hi,
I've found a thread at tripadvisor (https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...a_Bavaria.html), where one of users claims that airside walking connection between both terminals exists (page 3 and 4). Do you know anything about such connection?

As far as I know there is no walk way airside from T2 to T1. Only possibility is to take a shuttle bus which IMHO allows you stay airside.Please take a look at the attached pdf with the bus route.

oliver2002 Nov 27, 2017 3:30 am

Only way is the bus. No airside walkway. That said the T1 PP lounges are not worth the hassle. Unless you like to sit in a windowless pit.

offerendum Nov 27, 2017 5:39 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 29103844)
T1 PP lounges are not worth the hassle

Indeed! Europa Lounge is nothing special, here some impressions from an Air Berlin flight in 2016:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip...ll-luxury.html

LondonElite Dec 1, 2017 12:51 am

Just a thought to start a new thread as this one was born six years ago.


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