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Old Jun 23, 2011, 4:52 pm
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fine on the Metro in Frankfurt

So i was riding the metro in Frankfurt and did not know that after i purchased a ticket, i needed to get the ticket stamped prior to riding. Because of that, i was given a ticket for 40 Euro. Unfortunately, i now cant find the ticket i was given. I was told that i can pay the ticket online.

So my first question, does anyone happen to know the website where i can go to pay the ticket?

Will they eventually send me something in the mail? If for some reason i cant figure out a way to pay the ticket will my passport be revoked or might i be banned future entrance in Germany?

Thanks.
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Old Jun 23, 2011, 5:00 pm
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Have you tried contacting the agency that issued you the ticket? I'm sure they would be glad to help you pay up.
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
Have you tried contacting the agency that issued you the ticket? I'm sure they would be glad to help you pay up.
i lost the ticket so i dont know who to contact. i do know there was a website on the ticket. but without the ticket i dont know who to contact.
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 5:56 am
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Here is perhaps the website you need: http://www.traffiq.de/1651.de.detail...rmv_tarif.html

If you look for "Fahren ohne Fahrkarte" (travelling without a ticket), this is the section about your situation. In the light blue column on the right you can see a telephone number and a mailing address. You could try to write to that address or calling that number.

I did not see a button for English, so you can try Google translate if you have trouble with the German.

BTW, validating tickets is very common in almost all European countries, even on the railroad. It is always a good idea to check.

Good luck.
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by JoostvD
Here is perhaps the website you need: http://www.traffiq.de/1651.de.detail...rmv_tarif.html

If you look for "Fahren ohne Fahrkarte" (travelling without a ticket), this is the section about your situation. In the light blue column on the right you can see a telephone number and a mailing address. You could try to write to that address or calling that number.

I did not see a button for English, so you can try Google translate if you have trouble with the German.

BTW, validating tickets is very common in almost all European countries, even on the railroad. It is always a good idea to check.

Good luck.
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 9:21 am
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So i found the ticket, however, everything is in German.

It has a website: http://www.db-fahrpreisnacherhebung.de/

Can someone tell me if there is a way to pay this on that site? I tried using google translate but cant seem to find a place to pay the ticket.

ETA: i think i found the form: https://www.db-fahrpreisnacherhebung...ren/index.html

Question. At one point they ask: An diese E-Mail-Adresse erhalten Sie eine Empfangsbestätigung mit einer Übersicht ihrer Angaben.

And there are a few choices. Anyone know what i should be choosing here?

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Old Jun 27, 2011, 1:29 pm
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You could also try to phone the central authority for fines issued on DB trains (which is located in Baden-Baden) - but be warned, they usually don't know what they are talking about (having worked with DB as someone who checks tickets for several years, I know what I'm talking about ). It is also important whether you were fined on a regular metro or u-bahn/tramway train (the authority responsible for fines issued there is the local transport authority) or in a DB train (RegionalExpress, RegionalBahn or S-Bahn). In the latter case, Baden-Baden might help you, otherwise you should try to contact the local transportation authority. I know that it's quite confusing, but in germany, the different local transport companies (and there's lots of them) are solely responsible for ticket checks and the collection of fines on their respective lines - collaboration is seldom happening.

And don't worry - your passport or anything like that won't be invalidated if you don't pay your fine - riding a means of public transport without a ticket is an "Ordnungswidrigkeit" (something like a "minor crime") and won't effect the validity of your visa or anything the like. However, there's the possibility that the transport company will file a suit for "Erschleichen von Dienstleistungen" which is indeed a crime. But that'll usually only happen if you get caught several times within a short period of time.
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 2:05 pm
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You were probably on an RMV transport. Here is a contact website in English:

http://www.rmv.de/en/Verschiedenes/I...rtner/Kontakt/

Click on the email form.
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Old Jun 27, 2011, 9:03 pm
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When I was studying abroad a group of my friends (I wasn't with them) had the same problem. They did get their addresses taken down though the guy did admit that they most likely weren't going to get fined.
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Old Jun 28, 2011, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by etch5895
You were probably on an RMV transport. Here is a contact website in English:

http://www.rmv.de/en/Verschiedenes/I...rtner/Kontakt/

Click on the email form.
Since he has found the "ticket" and it has the website from the DB printed on it, I assume he was riding on a train or some sort of transport provided by the DB.

Since this "ticket" has specifically the site for paying penalty for a non-valid ticket, I assume, this is what he was given by the ticket inspector.

If the OP still wants to pay, the DB has specific information for this:

"IFS/Service Center FN, 76518 Baden-Baden
Commerzbank Baden-Baden
BLZ 662 400 02
Konto-Nr. 115 507 600

Für Bezahlungen aus dem Ausland:

S.W.I.F.T.-BIC-Code: COBA DE FF
IBAN: DE02 6624 0002 0115 5076 00"

The last two lines include the codes you will need to pay from outside Germany. They also ask you include the "ticket" number.

If you have something like this (http://www.willizblog.de/blogpicts/f...cherhebung.jpg) the "ticket" number is at the top and has the label: "FN-NR.:"

They also say you have only 14 days to pay before more penalties are added, but since you do not live in Europe, perhaps they will forget that.

Good luck.
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Old Jul 11, 2011, 5:16 pm
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IIRC RMV tickets don't need to get stamped unless something changed recently. Given the website that the OP gave, looks like the OP was on a regional DB train or on an S-Bahn train that was perhaps outside the RMV area?
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Old Jul 13, 2011, 8:43 pm
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I guess Frankfurt (or is it Germany as a whole?) is not one of the areas where the fine is payable on the spot?

btw, a little tip - when you're asked for your ticket, be careful if you keep it in the same pocket as your money. I'm not sure if the Berlin ticket inspector was more offended by the idea I might have been trying to bribe her, or by only offering €5.
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Old Jul 14, 2011, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by SFOSpiff
I guess Frankfurt (or is it Germany as a whole?) is not one of the areas where the fine is payable on the spot?

btw, a little tip - when you're asked for your ticket, be careful if you keep it in the same pocket as your money. I'm not sure if the Berlin ticket inspector was more offended by the idea I might have been trying to bribe her, or by only offering €5.
I am not sure whether the ticket inspector was really offended.. especially in Berlin, humor is very subtle and sarcasitc, so they may just have been joking.

And no, most transport companies don't accept instant payment, to avoid just such a case where an inspector is bribed by the passenger (or even keeps the money for himself). Also, most transport network operators offer the possibility to reduce the fine by showing a (forgotten) monthly or weekly subscription ar the office - obviously this wouln't work if the people had to pay their fines instantly.
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Old Jul 15, 2011, 11:36 am
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I am not sure whether the ticket inspector was really offended.. especially in Berlin, humor is very subtle and sarcasitc, so they may just have been joking.
And I was mostly joking, too. The inspector's reaction, if any, was mostly a brief raised eyebrow.

And no, most transport companies don't accept instant payment
I know I've been somewhere in Europe recently where the fine is payable on the spot. If you don't have the money, you'll be escorted to an ATM. If you still can't pay, you'll be arrested.
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Old Jul 15, 2011, 12:02 pm
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i wish i could have paid it then!

So, i found out one of my friends speaks german. And she was able to find out how to pay it. Basically i have to do an international bank transfer.

Thanks for the assistance!
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