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Coming to Atlantic City?
OK, so I'm not a pit boss or a dealer. But in the spirit of helping FTers, there's often nothing better than a local hotel concierge. :D
Any questions on visiting the city that's "Always Turned On", do post. I can't really help with comps and casino floor stuff, but I'll happily help for the rest of the visiting experience. If you're new to the AC scene and need a restaurant recommendation or what have you, please post and I'll make every attempt to answer and help. |
Yes :) But then again, I live under 90 minutes away :)
Is there any secret to getting a decent rate on a hotel room if you're not a frequent gambler? My parents have high status with one of the casinos and have a comped room on a Sat night. I wanted to join them and they got me a room at a 20% reduction, but still a ridiculous sum for a hotel in NJ :) |
Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 10499742)
Is there any secret to getting a decent rate on a hotel room if you're not a frequent gambler? My parents have high status with one of the casinos and have a comped room on a Sat night. I wanted to join them and they got me a room at a 20% reduction, but still a ridiculous sum for a hotel in NJ :) Two more specific points: 20% off on a Saturday night is nothing to sneeze at, especially as high as the rates are on a usual Saturday. I can understand the point about not wanting to pay such a high rate in AC, but I would also wonder which property (or program?) your parents have the status at. That 20% goes a lot further if your parents have a good relationship with a host, and the host sees fit to get good rooms for all members of the party. Some casinos aren't interested in keeping the rooms up to snuff, while some can't justify the cost of getting their building to not look as dated. Hope this helps, Mary. |
Thanks. We're talking about Showboat, not exactly in the Borgata territory. :)
I've seen the rooms and they're not all that wonderful. Even the suites are so-so. They certainly aren't worth nearly $300 per night. Oh well, it's Dad's birthday, and I guess I'll just cough it up. |
Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 10500168)
Thanks. We're talking about Showboat, not exactly in the Borgata territory. :)
I've seen the rooms and they're not all that wonderful. Even the suites are so-so. They certainly aren't worth nearly $300 per night. Oh well, it's Dad's birthday, and I guess I'll just cough it up. Bally's room product is great in the high-rise, the new Harrah's tower is a solid choice, and so is the more recent Caesars tower - IIRC it's Centurion Tower. |
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 10500464)
One counterpoint to this: if your parents have a status (I'm guessing they're Diamond or Seven Stars?) they would assumedly have a casino host. Showboat is a Harrah's Entertainment property, along with Bally's, Caesars, and Harrah's. What is to stop your parents from telling the host that it's a special occasion and asking for something different than they normally get?
I'll mention it to them and see if they spoke to their host. I may even play mom and call myself. I have a copy of her diamond card :) Harrah's just finished a new tower - why not have them try that? The Total Rewards system works across all of the AC properties - Harrah's even runs a players' shuttle between the four properties, so it's not like they're uncomfortable having peoples' play leave one building and go to another, so long as it's their building. Bally's room product is great in the high-rise, the new Harrah's tower is a solid choice, and so is the more recent Caesars tower - IIRC it's Centurion Tower. Thank you. |
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 10500464)
Bally's room product is great in the high-rise, the new Harrah's tower is a solid choice.
In non-summer (beach months), my #1 vote is Harrah's. Though, the Waterfront Tower is quite difficult to score on the weekend. The new suites in the Waterfront Tower are also very nice, a few details are HERE. If you can go to the beach (i.e. warmer months) then I vote for Caesars, especially now that there isn't a bad room in the house. I wrote about the new Caesars AC rooms in THIS THREAD. I have a number of reasons for my preference of Harrah's Marina; which include their hugh indoor pool area that is absolutely tops --- as well as an awesome Red Door Spa. Also, the pool area is ADULTS ONLY, and has complete bar service; basically a win-win scenario, and never any kids splashing around. My "favorite" AC casino for tables is Caesars. For VP, Slots and Tables, Showboat. My third choice is Harrah's, but I do like the Diamond Cove area, and the craps games are pretty active. If staying @ Harrah's Marina, I'll usually just cab it over to the boardwalk, spend 6-10 hours, and then cab it back to Harrah's. A few times, I'll drive over, use the free valet, and then possibly cab it back if it's been a drinking evening --- retrieving my car in the morning from the boardwalk casino. I have no patience, of recent, for the Harrah's shuttle --- but, it's not like I go back and forth 10 times a day. Without a doubt, the Diamond Lounges at Caesars and Bally's are the best. Harrah's lounge in too small, but, one of the bartenders Dino, is awesome.
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 10500464)
and so is the more recent Caesars tower - IIRC it's Centurion Tower.
Centurion is the newest tower @ Caesars, and offers the best views. The older Ocean Tower also has good views (a bit shorter tower), and easier (but, not a hugh deal) access to the new Qua Spa, Fitness Center, and outdoor pool (which is not really applicable for a non-summer stay). The Ocean Tower also has all of the butler suites, IIRC. Since they no longer use the "Temple" designation for the web site booking, the categories are NOW as follows (well, at least from what I can make out from the descriptions) from most expensive ("best") to least expensive : Premium - refers to the Centurion tower with a good view Luxury - refers to the Centurion tower with a city or skyline view Deluxe - refers to the Temple Tower I'm "guessing" that they interchange Ocean Tower rooms also in the Premium/Luxury category, but the rooms depicted on the website booking are definitely the Premium and Luxury I describe in my pictures (in the Centurion tower). Since all of the rooms have been renovated, getting stuck in the "Temple Tower" isn't a hugh deal, as it once was --- but, do be aware, the "Deluxe - Temple Tower" does have interior view rooms, that include a window overlooking the big Wheel of Fortune Slot Machine. :D; For historical purposes, the Temple Tower was the original Caesars hotel tower, that was previously a Howard Johnson's. In order to open Caesars Regency Boardwalk as the second casino in AC (after Resorts) there was a requirement that any casino hotel had 500+ (I think that was the #) hotel rooms in addition to the casino. Since they were in a rush to open Caesars, they grabbed the HoJo, and built the casino adjacent to it. Over the years, they have expanded the property around the original HoJo (Temple Tower) eventually enclosing it by the lobby; which is why they have "interior view" rooms. Mary2e, another option, is a HOB (House of Blues Studio) @ Showboat. The "usual" player rate for a Saturday night will range from $250 to $350, YMMV. Some details HERE. If staying at Showboat, the best regular rooms are in the "Bourbon Tower" with the higher floors giving the best (and most consistent) views. If you are a TR member, there "might" be some tricks to score a better room rate, but those details would have to be by PM. ;) |
Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 10500516)
They're Diamond. I know they have a host and I'm not exactly sure who they called to get their comp. I asked them to call back and get me a room and ended up paying a discounted $250 for it :)
I'll mention it to them and see if they spoke to their host. I may even play mom and call myself. I have a copy of her diamond card :) I'm not that familiar with the program. Do they have the same diamond amenities (ie food) at the other properties that my parents can use instead of at Showboat? They know they can play at all of them, but I'm not sure if they know they can also redeem at all of them.
Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 10500516)
Thank you.
Originally Posted by baccarat_king
(Post 10502227)
Stay away from Bally's, since the bad are really bad, and you just can't always guarantee what you'll get (well, unless you have a guarantee of a pre-block). ;)
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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 10502532)
The amenities in theory should be the same across the board as far as how many points gets you whatever. They might differ a little based on the property...if a Showboat buffet comp is x points, a harrah's buffet might be x+50, just because they stratify the properties a little bit.
With regard to using Total Rewards points, basically they just convert the points to $ for instant conversion. Quick Rewards Quick rewards is the fastest way to use your Reward Credits at any Harrah's owned restaurant. Show your Total Rewards Card and valid ID to your server or cashier at the time of bill statement. |
I have a silly questions...
Does any hotel comp Spa treatments? :) LOL,just kiding...
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Originally Posted by Green_eyes
(Post 10863877)
Does any hotel comp Spa treatments? :) LOL,just kiding...
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Hard times hit AC:
Dec. 30 (Bloomberg) -- It’s 3:45 a.m. in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and Jimmy Panagiotou just walked away from the poker table after 5 1/2 hours, about $200 lighter. The 43-year-old professional gambler, wearing a World Series of Poker baseball cap and leather jacket, is on a cigarette-and- coffee break outside Caesar’s casino, pondering his next move. Looking around, he takes his loss in stride as he notes the eerie quiet of the largest gambling district in the U.S. after Las Vegas. Only diehards remain. “It’s not like it used to be,” Panagiotou said. “All of the casinos are struggling. People are not going to find money to gamble when they need to find it just to live.” After 28 years of growth, Atlantic City’s gambling proceeds are down for the second time in a row. In the first 11 months of 2008, revenue from casino games fell 6.7 percent to $4.2 billion, regulators reported Dec. 10. Last year’s 5.7 percent decline was the first ever, as the number of visitors slipped to 33.3 million from 34.5 million. The slowdown comes as Governor Jon Corzine has warned that the state faces a revenue shortfall of $1.2 billion for the year ending June 30 and $5 billion in fiscal 2010. Through November, the state collected $338 million in Atlantic City tax revenue, down from $364 million and $384 million, respectively, in the first 11 months of 2007 and 2006. Casino employment fell to 39,137 in November from more than 42,000 as recently as August and a peak of 51,560 in July 1997... |
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