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Status Match between Caesars Total Rewards and Wyndham Rewards

Status Match between Caesars Total Rewards and Wyndham Rewards

Old Dec 4, 19, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Stephane Beaulieu View Post
Hoping someone that already has Diamond can help me. Need a room for Feb 14. Can someone with TR Diamond look up and see if I have any chance at a comp room with Diamond?
As a status match diamond with no real gaming record, I do see free room nights at lower price hotels (Paris or worse) during slow times like mid-December. But Feb. 14th is not only Valentine's day but also a Friday, so there's no way you're getting that free without a significant amount of play.
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Old Dec 4, 19, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by Stephane Beaulieu View Post
Thanks to OP for the tip. Plan on matching on Jan 1st to ensure that I don't expire before my trip in Feb 2020.

Hoping someone that already has Diamond can help me. Need a room for Feb 14. Can someone with TR Diamond look up and see if I have any chance at a comp room with Diamond?
I'm a matched Diamond with little play the last couple years, and the cheapest rate I see for 2/14 in Vegas (I'm assuming that's where you're going) is $109 at Harrah's.

My wife is Gold with less recent play than me and has a comp night at Harrah's or Rio that night, or much cheaper rates than me at the other properties.

I suspect the main difference is most of our Caesars stays are booked under my account, and they're trying harder to get my wife to return since she hasn't booked a stay in a while. But there are so many factors at play that it's hard to compare between individuals, since these are marketing offers that are targeted based on who-knows how many factors.
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Old Dec 4, 19, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by Roasty View Post
The lexicon gets a little confusing when looking at room rates. Diamonds (I believe?) get better room rates in general regardless of play. It's not uncommon to get $0 rooms on unpopular days/times of the year just to get you in the door. Those rates show up for me as "COMP".


Or am I way off base here? I'm happy to be corrected... In fact, I'd appreciate it more if it meant my craps time was earning me comp rates.
It's hard to tell. I don't think you're off base. You call them "in the door", I call it casino marketing. Basically the same thing. The problem is that you (or I) can look in our CET account and see a COMP, but that doesn't mean someone else will. If someone has no history at all with CET, I doubt they will get a COMP at all, but it wouldn't be unheard of. But they will need to check their own CET account to know for sure.

I know there is no way my craps and slot play is getting me comps. Not at CET anyway. But I've certainly gotten a few free rooms out of them over the years.
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Old Dec 4, 19, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by shadow520 View Post
It's hard to tell. I don't think you're off base. You call them "in the door", I call it casino marketing. Basically the same thing. The problem is that you (or I) can look in our CET account and see a COMP, but that doesn't mean someone else will. If someone has no history at all with CET, I doubt they will get a COMP at all, but it wouldn't be unheard of. But they will need to check their own CET account to know for sure.

I know there is no way my craps and slot play is getting me comps. Not at CET anyway. But I've certainly gotten a few free rooms out of them over the years.
Yeah totally fair. Casinos were in the rewards marketing game before even credit cards were. I'm sure their algorithms are hyper-tuned to factors we can only begin to speculate on.

OP really needs to get the match and then check for themselves directly with CET before going with the OTA. Those rates will almost certainly be better than Expedia (et al.).
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Old Dec 10, 19, 10:30 am
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I plan to do the status match to Wyndham and then to Total Rewards these days.

Planning a stay in Atlantic City (midweek, Feb. '20).

Borgata offers me $49 before taxes and fees per night, a $30 per night rebate off their regular rate. (I don't gamble. I am M life Sapphire with just a few hotel stays at Aria and Bellagio over the last few years.)

Should I go for it or is the "maximizing" way to do the status match to total rewards and then stay based on an offer I'll receive from Caesars?

Sorry if this is a bit of a n00b question.
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Old Dec 10, 19, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by R.O. View Post
I plan to do the status match to Wyndham and then to Total Rewards these days.

Planning a stay in Atlantic City (midweek, Feb. '20).

Borgata offers me $49 before taxes and fees per night, a $30 per night rebate off their regular rate. (I don't gamble. I am M life Sapphire with just a few hotel stays at Aria and Bellagio over the last few years.)

Should I go for it or is the "maximizing" way to do the status match to total rewards and then stay based on an offer I'll receive from Caesars?

Sorry if this is a bit of a n00b question.
Not sure I completely understand what you're asking, but you can do the Hotel Chain X Status -> Wyndham Diamond -> Caesars Diamond all online without physically going anywhere.

But real talk: Caesars is not going to invite you (especially proactively) to come stay for free just because you're a status-match diamond (especially with no casino play). you might be a diamond status, but Caesars knows you were a status match. Your rates might get a little better though!

Once you have that Caesars Diamond card, you can use it to status match at (specifically) the MGM Borgata to MGM Gold. That's worth it if you were going to be in Atlantic City anyway. I don't think you'll offer you a free room since you were already an MGM member prior to joining. While you're there you might as well also match it to Hard Rock Casino's Rock Royalty. I think that'll get you a free night with them?

After all of that, don't forget to status match MGM Gold -> Hyatt.
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Old Dec 10, 19, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Roasty View Post
But real talk: Caesars is not going to invite you (especially proactively) to come stay for free just because you're a status-match diamond (especially with no casino play). you might be a diamond status, but Caesars knows you were a status match. Your rates might get a little better though!
Thanks, that actually answered what I was unsure of. If it's unlikely I'll get any comped rooms or other excellent offer as a newly-matched Diamond, I might as well go ahead and book the Borgata. That's the property I prefer anyways.

Last edited by R.O.; Dec 10, 19 at 1:13 pm Reason: And yeah, matching onwards is planned for sure.
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Old Dec 10, 19, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by R.O. View Post
Thanks, that actually answered what I was unsure of. If it's unlikely I'll get any comped rooms or other excellent offer as a newly-matched Diamond, I might as well go ahead and book the Borgata. That's the property I prefer anyways.
Do you have a player's card with Hard Rock yet? If you don't, then status match at Hard Rock from either your Caesar's Diamond (or the newly minted MGM Gold) and you can get a couple of free nights there as part of the Rock Royalty match. That will solve your problem!

https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlan...ard-tier-match
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Old Dec 12, 19, 7:46 am
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Was also going to say Diamond at Caesars will waive resort fees and parking , so thats worth it right there..
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Old Dec 12, 19, 8:35 am
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Was also going to say Diamond at Caesars will waive resort fees and parking , so thats worth it right there..
Once I matched to Diamond, I will admit that my trips to LV went from 1x per year to 2x to 3x per year due to the cheaper rates, no resort fees, free shows, priority lines, etc. My play has certainly gone up so Caesars and I both got what we wanted.
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Old Dec 12, 19, 10:16 am
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I was asking in a Vegas forum on whether I can get the resort fees waived on the room my friend booked as a gambling Gold I am staying in as a matched Diamond. I got mixed answers, some people said that Vegas properties were not allowing it, others said it was possible. If anyone is interested I will update after my trip in case you have friends and family who are much bigger fish for Caesars to lure back to the casinos then yourself.
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Old Dec 12, 19, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by HIFlya View Post
I was asking in a Vegas forum on whether I can get the resort fees waived on the room my friend booked as a gambling Gold I am staying in as a matched Diamond. I got mixed answers, some people said that Vegas properties were not allowing it, others said it was possible. If anyone is interested I will update after my trip in case you have friends and family who are much bigger fish for Caesars to lure back to the casinos then yourself.
I might have misunderstood, but if you're staying in a Caesars property as a Diamond (matched or otherwise) then your resort fees should be comped. Full stop.

If you're talking about staying with MGM then nevermind. I don't know anything about that.
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Old Dec 12, 19, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by Roasty View Post
I might have misunderstood, but if you're staying in a Caesars property as a Diamond (matched or otherwise) then your resort fees should be comped. Full stop.

If you're talking about staying with MGM then nevermind. I don't know anything about that.
You are correct, you do get your resort fee comped as a Diamond, however, it is done automatically if you are the one booking the room. In my case, my friend booked the room because he is the one that has actually gambled and so had much better rates (ie comps) than I could get as a Diamond so it made sense (my Diamond stay total, even with the waived resort fees were ~$200 more than his total for three nights). I didn't think it would be too big a deal for them to apply my Diamond benefit to a room but I have been asking around and found the success rate to be mixed.
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Old Dec 12, 19, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by HIFlya View Post
I was asking in a Vegas forum on whether I can get the resort fees waived on the room my friend booked as a gambling Gold I am staying in as a matched Diamond. I got mixed answers, some people said that Vegas properties were not allowing it, others said it was possible. If anyone is interested I will update after my trip in case you have friends and family who are much bigger fish for Caesars to lure back to the casinos then yourself.
General rule is that it's not allowed. Since you're not the one who booked it and not primary on it, the diamond waived resort fee shouldn't apply to your friend/room. No different than any other hotel program, or really any loyalty program. (ie; Hyatt, Discoverist booking room and Globalist is staying with them. Not going to receive Glob benefits.) Now, it doesn't mean the FD agent won't waive it if they see your name is added to the room. It's a hit or miss. That's why you received mixed answers. But I wouldn't expect it to be the norm if they happen to waive the resort fees. YMMV.

For future reference, the correct way to do it would be during the booking process. You can add a 2nd CR/TR number to the search to lower pricing or maybe get the room comp'd. This ensures your player number/benefits is tied to the reservation.

Side note: I believe you posted on VMB right? Think I saw your post there.
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Old Dec 12, 19, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by HIFlya View Post
You are correct, you do get your resort fee comped as a Diamond, however, it is done automatically if you are the one booking the room. In my case, my friend booked the room because he is the one that has actually gambled and so had much better rates (ie comps) than I could get as a Diamond so it made sense (my Diamond stay total, even with the waived resort fees were ~$200 more than his total for three nights). I didn't think it would be too big a deal for them to apply my Diamond benefit to a room but I have been asking around and found the success rate to be mixed.
Oh I understand what you're saying now. When booking online (or even on the phone), you can input the other person's Caesar's card number. That should actually get you even better room rates and possibly apply your no-resort fee benefits. Get your friend your Caesar's ID ASAP and have him modify the reservation!
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