Harrah's Diamond/Seven Star's 15,000/150,000 Tier for 2014
Jun 25, 2013, 2:02 am
#61
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Does anyone know how long it takes before you get you free flight after earning 80,000 tier points? I hope its pretty quick as I have some Vegas plans if I can get the free flights. I also hope its not like the Kansas City offer of free flights, rooms, and ground transportation, which turned out to be partial payment towards a flight. So KC is off my list of casinos we will be spending our money at.
My guess, contact your host, or TR to see if your free trip (credit) is in your account.
Jun 25, 2013, 12:08 pm
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freeplay play no longer counts toward TC, RC
In the Seven Star Newsletter, and from a recent mailing from Harrah's in AC in type smaller than this
, beginning June 12, 2013, using "promotional free play" will NO longer earn T(ier) C(redits) nor R(ewards) C(redits). June 12 has passed, and based on my play on 6/24, at both Harrah's and Caesars in AC, free play is still earning TC and RC.
When this does occur, it will make earning TC, which help toward status levels: plat, diam, 7*, more difficult to attain.
, beginning June 12, 2013, using "promotional free play" will NO longer earn T(ier) C(redits) nor R(ewards) C(redits). June 12 has passed, and based on my play on 6/24, at both Harrah's and Caesars in AC, free play is still earning TC and RC. When this does occur, it will make earning TC, which help toward status levels: plat, diam, 7*, more difficult to attain.
Aug 19, 2013, 2:50 pm
#63
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I have been told by tow people at the Total Rewards counter at both The Quad & The Flamingo, confirming that current tier requirements will be raised to the following:
Diamond: 15,000 tier points for a full $75,000 of play.
Diamond will be in three sub tiers at 15/60/80,000 tier points.
My take it that most diamonds will see their benefits reduced while, those at the upper levels may receive some increased benefits, though with great play requirements.
Seven Stars will now start at 150,000 tier, for $750,000 play.
The idea seems to be to eliminate the many (in relative terms) people would just are able to earn the 100,000 credits, the cool half million of play.
To put this in perspective, under the current program at 120,000 you got a second Seven Star enhancement trip, now you won't even be a Seven Star.
Diamond: 15,000 tier points for a full $75,000 of play.
Diamond will be in three sub tiers at 15/60/80,000 tier points.
My take it that most diamonds will see their benefits reduced while, those at the upper levels may receive some increased benefits, though with great play requirements.
Seven Stars will now start at 150,000 tier, for $750,000 play.
The idea seems to be to eliminate the many (in relative terms) people would just are able to earn the 100,000 credits, the cool half million of play.
To put this in perspective, under the current program at 120,000 you got a second Seven Star enhancement trip, now you won't even be a Seven Star.
Aug 20, 2013, 4:46 am
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Seven Stars is not worth the trouble!!!! Diamond members are getting better offers than Seven Stars members!!!! If you read my other post you will find that Caesars doesn't comp on your tier level, I am Diamond level 1 my friend is Seven Stars level 3 and I received a $2500 gift card while she received a $1000 gift card. There were a lot of Diamond members who received a $2500 and $5000 gift cards. My friend plays only $5-$25 dollar machines and has almost 400,000 tier credits and the Total Rewards programs treats her this way. She was told the more offers you use the less they offer you. This is crazy, why would she want to go back when she has huge play and I barely play a couple hours a day and I get more than her. This means they do not appreciate their players and she said she is finished with Caesars and Total Rewards!!!!!
Do you both play in the exactly the same casinos?
I'm 7* (over 200,000 now), and the gift card offers I get for LAS (not my primary play area--AC is) are between $500 and $700. So $2500 and $5000 seems high to me.
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Aug 20, 2013, 10:35 am
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Assuming the numbers you quote are correct, you have to compare all offers for each (not just a gift card offer).
Do you both play in the exactly the same casinos?
I'm 7* (over 200,000 now), and the gift card offers I get for LAS (not my primary play area--AC is) are between $500 and $700. So $2500 and $5000 seems high to me.
[On the internet anyone can say anything...that does not make it factual.]
Do you both play in the exactly the same casinos?
I'm 7* (over 200,000 now), and the gift card offers I get for LAS (not my primary play area--AC is) are between $500 and $700. So $2500 and $5000 seems high to me.
[On the internet anyone can say anything...that does not make it factual.
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Aug 20, 2013, 10:36 am
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Assuming the numbers you quote are correct, you have to compare all offers for each (not just a gift card offer).
Do you both play in the exactly the same casinos?
I'm 7* (over 200,000 now), and the gift card offers I get for LAS (not my primary play area--AC is) are between $500 and $700. So $2500 and $5000 seems high to me.
[On the internet anyone can say anything...that does not make it factual.]
Do you both play in the exactly the same casinos?
I'm 7* (over 200,000 now), and the gift card offers I get for LAS (not my primary play area--AC is) are between $500 and $700. So $2500 and $5000 seems high to me.
[On the internet anyone can say anything...that does not make it factual.
]
Aug 20, 2013, 8:05 pm
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If you are Seven Stars I hope your offers for your primary casino are higher than $500-$700. I am a diamond and I don't book an offer under $1500. I play only at Caesars Las Vegas, my offers for cities other than Las Vegas are much smaller, $500 flight reimbursement and $250-$500 free play. I was told that Caesars has a very complicated system for awarding offers. Its all done by a computer program that takes into account your daily play (# of Hours plus amount), type of play, and how many offers you have taken advantage of, etc. If you take advantage of a lot of offers, frequently they are reduced since Caesars feels it has already "got you" and there is no need to send you incentives to play. At MGM properties my offers get better with each visit.
You must be gambling at much higher levels than I do, if you are getting all these "super" offers from Harrah's and MGM--which would explain a lot.
Aug 21, 2013, 3:59 pm
#68
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Seven Stars is not worth the trouble!!!! Diamond members are getting better offers than Seven Stars members!!!! If you read my other post you will find that Caesars doesn't comp on your tier level, I am Diamond level 1 my friend is Seven Stars level 3 and I received a $2500 gift card while she received a $1000 gift card. There were a lot of Diamond members who received a $2500 and $5000 gift cards. My friend plays only $5-$25 dollar machines and has almost 400,000 tier credits and the Total Rewards programs treats her this way. She was told the more offers you use the less they offer you. This is crazy, why would she want to go back when she has huge play and I barely play a couple hours a day and I get more than her. This means they do not appreciate their players and she said she is finished with Caesars and Total Rewards!!!!!
Oct 19, 2013, 11:07 pm
#69
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Seven Star Play
I was thrilled to find this thread for other Seven Star Players; I've been looking for a place where we can all compare notes. I've read the entire thread and I love the information provided by you all!! I have a few thoughts based on the common themes in this post:
1) Becoming a 7Star in itself isn't a big deal; it merely opens up a new level of comps which we still have to live up to of course. there are so many different routes one can take to attain the same level; but the main ingredient in receiving bigger and better offers is your rate of play per bet. Essentially I can be a 7star and theoretically receive a smaller offer amount for a gift card promotion than for a Diamond level player who bets a higher average per bet.
2) As for receiving max offers; it doesn't matter how many promotions you partake in; as long as you are meeting your play quota based on what they are comping you on the front end (air, room, folio, free play etc) So if you decide to use a nice freeplay or gift package offer and have light play it will certainly affect the amount of offers you receive in the future.
As long as they see you are "consistently" playing at a certain level they will keep the offers coming. Why wouldn't they dangle a carrot if they know you will have strong play?
1) Becoming a 7Star in itself isn't a big deal; it merely opens up a new level of comps which we still have to live up to of course. there are so many different routes one can take to attain the same level; but the main ingredient in receiving bigger and better offers is your rate of play per bet. Essentially I can be a 7star and theoretically receive a smaller offer amount for a gift card promotion than for a Diamond level player who bets a higher average per bet.
2) As for receiving max offers; it doesn't matter how many promotions you partake in; as long as you are meeting your play quota based on what they are comping you on the front end (air, room, folio, free play etc) So if you decide to use a nice freeplay or gift package offer and have light play it will certainly affect the amount of offers you receive in the future.
As long as they see you are "consistently" playing at a certain level they will keep the offers coming. Why wouldn't they dangle a carrot if they know you will have strong play?
Dec 3, 2013, 2:27 pm
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^^^^ That's amazing! I wonder what I'm doing wrong?!?!? I do my playing in AC and I'm strictly CZRs properties. 100%. I go to LAS once every couple of years but not since I started to play regularly. How do you get the free flights? I wonder if the comp flights from ACY-LAS?
For example (assuming slot player):
EXAMPLE 1 -
earned 500 Tier points each at Harrahs & Showboat on Friday
earned 1000 tier points each at Harrah's & Caesars on Saturday
earned 500 tier points each at Caesars, Showboat and Ballys on Sunday
Total gambled: $22.5k. Total tier points: 4,500 + 3,000 bonus points.
ADT: $4,500 (1500+1500+500+500+500/5) 500 @ Showboat is on there twice because of the 24 hour gap
EXAMPLE 2 -
earned 1000 points per day at Harrah's AC for 3 consecutive days
Total gambled: $15,000 Total tier points: 3,000 + 3,000 bonus points
ADT: $15k!!!
EXAMPLE 3 -
earned 1000 points per day at Harrah's Philadelphia for 3 consecutive days (*not* a destination location)
Total gambled: $15,000 Total tier points: 3,000 + 3,000 bonus points
ADT: $5,000
As you can see, moving around amongst multiple properties REALLY REALLY hurts your ADT and your ADT is what generates your offers. You can gamble less if you gamble SMART and still make Diamond/7*
Last edited by zohyeahz; Dec 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm Reason: explaining my math
Dec 24, 2013, 8:19 am
#71
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Did you know your ADT is calculated PER PROPERTY per trip for "destination locations" (e.g. AC/Vegas) as long as you play at least once each gaming day for your trip? This was a real game changer for me finding that out.
For example (assuming slot player):
EXAMPLE 1 -
earned 500 Tier points each at Harrahs & Showboat on Friday
earned 1000 tier points each at Harrah's & Caesars on Saturday
earned 500 tier points each at Caesars, Showboat and Ballys on Sunday
Total gambled: $22.5k. Total tier points: 4,500 + 3,000 bonus points.
ADT: $4,500 (1500+1500+500+500+500/5) 500 @ Showboat is on there twice because of the 24 hour gap
EXAMPLE 2 -
earned 1000 points per day at Harrah's AC for 3 consecutive days
Total gambled: $15,000 Total tier points: 3,000 + 3,000 bonus points
ADT: $15k!!!
EXAMPLE 3 -
earned 1000 points per day at Harrah's Philadelphia for 3 consecutive days (*not* a destination location)
Total gambled: $15,000 Total tier points: 3,000 + 3,000 bonus points
ADT: $5,000
As you can see, moving around amongst multiple properties REALLY REALLY hurts your ADT and your ADT is what generates your offers. You can gamble less if you gamble SMART and still make Diamond/7*
For example (assuming slot player):
EXAMPLE 1 -
earned 500 Tier points each at Harrahs & Showboat on Friday
earned 1000 tier points each at Harrah's & Caesars on Saturday
earned 500 tier points each at Caesars, Showboat and Ballys on Sunday
Total gambled: $22.5k. Total tier points: 4,500 + 3,000 bonus points.
ADT: $4,500 (1500+1500+500+500+500/5) 500 @ Showboat is on there twice because of the 24 hour gap
EXAMPLE 2 -
earned 1000 points per day at Harrah's AC for 3 consecutive days
Total gambled: $15,000 Total tier points: 3,000 + 3,000 bonus points
ADT: $15k!!!
EXAMPLE 3 -
earned 1000 points per day at Harrah's Philadelphia for 3 consecutive days (*not* a destination location)
Total gambled: $15,000 Total tier points: 3,000 + 3,000 bonus points
ADT: $5,000
As you can see, moving around amongst multiple properties REALLY REALLY hurts your ADT and your ADT is what generates your offers. You can gamble less if you gamble SMART and still make Diamond/7*
Dec 31, 2013, 5:20 pm
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The total rewards website has been updated, so it's official 
https://www.totalrewards.com/TotalRe...age=trBenefits
It was rumored at 7* Insider that there will be bonus tier points for meeting certain thresholds in a day. I do not see any mention of this on totalrewards.com.
If those bonuses end up being real then the increase in tier points required will not be as bad. Otherwise my days of having status at CET may be over. I missed diamond this year, so if life as a platinum is not worth it I won't bother trying to re-qualify this year.
https://www.totalrewards.com/TotalRe...age=trBenefits
- 5,000 tier for platinum
- 15,000 tier for diamond
- 150,000 for 7*
It was rumored at 7* Insider that there will be bonus tier points for meeting certain thresholds in a day. I do not see any mention of this on totalrewards.com.
- 500 tier in a day = 125 bonus tier
- 1,000 tier in a day = 1,000 bonus tier
- 2,500 tier in a day = 5,000 bonus tier
If those bonuses end up being real then the increase in tier points required will not be as bad. Otherwise my days of having status at CET may be over. I missed diamond this year, so if life as a platinum is not worth it I won't bother trying to re-qualify this year.
5,000 tier in a day = 10,000 bonus tier (Diamond in a Day)
