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FlyingForTheHalibut Feb 1, 2023 10:16 am

Purchasing two seats
 
Hello, I’m going to give Frontier a whirl, I’m pretty close to Trenton and I’m headed to Orlando for a conference.

I want to purchase two seats, in Stretch, just for myself. I’m not a POS, but I’ve been smushed by more than one.

Does anyone have experience or advice for this?

thanks!

Cbrosius Feb 1, 2023 10:41 am

I have seen people buy two seats just to have the buffer. Obviously you better buy them next to each other and hope the third person doesn't show up with a 50 pound service animal, which will be the one doing the stretching into your space, and the airline will make you move rather than the person infringing, because they say it is ADA rules.

Tanic Feb 1, 2023 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by Cbrosius (Post 34976494)
because they say it is ADA rules.

ADA does not apply to airlines. See Air Carrier Access Act 49 USC 41705.

Cbrosius Feb 1, 2023 5:24 pm

I hope that you are correct. I have been seeing more and more very large dogs coming on board, but have not had one near me. I asked the flight attendant how they are restrained when the seatbelt sign is on, and how can such a big dog sit on the floor infront of just one seat. She said that the dogs spread out , and are not restrained in any way. I think this is dangerous if the aircraft really gets bouncing. Also, I do not want to lose what little legroom I have to any person or animal. The flight attendant told me the service dogs have priority due to ADA and a traveler who does not like it will be the one who gets moved . I always sit in row 1. If this should ever happen to me, I don't want some other seat. So I don't know what to say. I believe what you are saying with that statute, but it seems that the airlines are siding with the animals.

lewisc Feb 3, 2023 2:55 am


Originally Posted by Tanic (Post 34977520)
ADA does not apply to airlines. See Air Carrier Access Act 49 USC 41705.

Correct, but your post is misleading. Pax with service animals have rights under the air carrier access act not the ADA. The rights are similar.

Originally Posted by Cbrosius (Post 34977543)
I h moved . I always sit in row 1. If this should ever happen to me, I don't want some other seat. So I don't know what to say. I believe what you are saying with that statute, but it seems that the airlines are siding with the animals.

PP is technically correct. The ADA doesn't apply. The air carrier access law does apply. Airlines side with. Service animals as per access act. There is a legal difference but on conversation people don't make the distinction.

it's easier to say it's an ADA rule then explain the air carrier access act

Cbrosius Feb 3, 2023 3:35 am

I only state my opinion and recounted a conversation between myself and a flight attendant . I thought I made that clear and had, nor have, any intent to mislead anyone. There is obviously a situation with these service animals that ought to be reconciled, and that is my opinion as a traveling consumer. The question of the original poster was his search for extra space by purchasing extra space and I was speculating , based on what I see and what the attendant told me, that his best efforts could, and hopefully won't, be hindered by one of the unexpected things that do occur on aircraft, whether the proliferation of these larger and larger service animals, or rebalancing of the aircraft. Ever been in the premium seats and the attendant takes someone from the back and says they need to sit in a row that you paid extra to be in in order to " rebalance the aircraft" ?

EugeneK Feb 3, 2023 6:06 am

Does purchasing two seats actually work?

I think I tried that once (using my own name for the second seat, but with a different middle initial), and the system wouldn't allow it.

lewisc Feb 3, 2023 8:15 am


Originally Posted by Cbrosius (Post 34981289)
I only state my opinion and recounted a conversation between myself and a flight attendant . I thought I made that clear and had, nor have, any intent to mislead anyone.?

My point regarding misleading info was witb regards tanics post.
The ADA doesn't apply to airlines but a different law applies to airlines. Service dogs are permitted.

Mentioning the ADA, while technically wrong, gets the point faster and easier then explaining air carrier access act

bhomburg Feb 3, 2023 8:58 am


Originally Posted by EugeneK (Post 34981529)
Does purchasing two seats actually work?

With Frontier, it does. `Customers of size` are even required to do so. I travel with used to travel with a large service dog and the one time I flew Frontier with her I put in the name of my dog (who hashad a passport ;)) in the reservation and then called to say I needed the seat so the dog could fit (this was back in the day when this was still possible). No problems.
How to do this today? I`d put your name and "extra seat" in the reservation and then use the chat tool to contact reservations so this can be properly entered into the reservation system.

BTW, i routinely bought two seats when flying on carriers like Frontier who don't offer enough space for the dog to fit in front of me (or when premium cabin seats were prohibitively expense or sold out on airlines who do).
Outside of the US where the legal framework differs, airlines can and do require the purchase of a second seat for the animal should it not fit within the space allocated by one seat.


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