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joshua362 Oct 27, 2017 9:16 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 28982773)
Unacceptable! They don't like delays, delays over, over again and again. This is last warning for Frontier Airlines. They could be worst. They didn't listen to those passengers and something isn't right. They have to be on-time and don't be delays. I think those customers will have find another airlines to fly out of ISP. That's big problems!

As of today I've placed Frontier Airlines on double secret probation. ;)

Some aviation maintenance humor:

Problem - Aircraft handles funny.
Solution - Aircraft warned to "Straighten up, Fly Right, and Be Serious."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2669425/posts

rsteinmetz70112 Oct 27, 2017 9:19 am


Originally Posted by LegalTender (Post 28983856)
The interlining dividend kicks in during a system meltdown outage with 1800 flights cancelled. Giving away revenue to another airline in times of trouble is still done. An interline agreement doesn’t mean the airlines HAVE to accept passengers in all circumstances. In most cases, it should be found revenue.

That only works in the rare instances when a single airline has a problem. In a wide spread weather event pretty much every airline has issues interlining is of little value.

I am pretty underwelmed by the benefit of interlining. Back 50 years ago it was much more common because fares were regulated and the airlines cooperated much more.

LegalTender Oct 27, 2017 9:31 am


Originally Posted by rsteinmetz70112 (Post 28983944)
That only works in the rare instances when a single airline has a problem.

Precisely when it's needed most. Inventory ability in wx situations is always problematic.

Fares between smaller airports and a hub city can be staggering, but an interline ticket to the final destination is usually considerably cheaper than the sum of the two local fares.

jeffandnicole Oct 27, 2017 9:32 am


Originally Posted by LegalTender (Post 28983856)
The interlining dividend kicks in during a system meltdown outage with 1800 flights cancelled. Giving away revenue to another airline in times of trouble is still done. An interline agreement doesn’t mean the airlines HAVE to accept passengers in all circumstances. In most cases, it should be found revenue.

Because the 2 or 3 other main airlines that accept interlines have a few hundred-thousand seats available to accommodate everyone?

No. The airline with the issue first takes care of their frequent travelers. Then if they want, if there's room, they can move on to other flyers. Mr. Ultra-Basic-Economy isn't going to be intralined to another airline unless he gets real lucky.

Unfortunately, some people live in a 1990's world where they believe airplanes fly at 50% and airlines will happily move you around to get you wherever you need to go. That world is long-gone.

LegalTender Oct 27, 2017 9:36 am


Originally Posted by jeffandnicole (Post 28983999)
The airline with the issue first takes care of their frequent travelers. Then if they want, if there's room, they can move on to other flyers. Mr. Ultra-Basic-Economy isn't going to be intralined to another airline unless he gets real lucky.

Just as it should be. Nothing there argues against having interline agreements.

Often1 Oct 27, 2017 9:54 am

If you insist on flying carriers with no interline agreement, at least hedge the fare savings with a decent travel insurance policy which kicks in at 3-4 hours of delay and pays for a new ticket within some parameters.

If the cost of the policy isn't worth the fare savings, have to ask whether it's really a savings in the first place. Especially true if you are on a tight budget with a family. A couple of hotel rooms + food for a one-day delay can push some people over the edge.

jeffandnicole Oct 27, 2017 10:46 am


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 28984067)
If you insist on flying carriers with no interline agreement, at least hedge the fare savings with a decent travel insurance policy which kicks in at 3-4 hours of delay and pays for a new ticket within some parameters.

If the cost of the policy isn't worth the fare savings, have to ask whether it's really a savings in the first place. Especially true if you are on a tight budget with a family. A couple of hotel rooms + food for a one-day delay can push some people over the edge.

It doesn't matter if the carrier with the interline agreement doesn't interline you anyway.

Putnik Oct 27, 2017 11:49 am

Why is this post in the Southwest forum?

joshua362 Oct 27, 2017 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by Putnik (Post 28984571)
Why is this post in the Southwest forum?

Frontier is the only "competition" to WN at ISP which they built up then decimated leaving only sky high fares. Any Frontier news is news I can use!

Rd3 Oct 27, 2017 1:01 pm

Luckily I have a decent reserve of Delta SM, Amex MR, UR that I can move around & use if I'm ever truly stuck & need a last minute flight--but even I shy away from Frontier/Spirit/etc. for the most part

rsteinmetz70112 Oct 27, 2017 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 28984067)
If you insist on flying carriers with no interline agreement, at least hedge the fare savings with a decent travel insurance policy which kicks in at 3-4 hours of delay and pays for a new ticket within some parameters.

If the cost of the policy isn't worth the fare savings, have to ask whether it's really a savings in the first place. Especially true if you are on a tight budget with a family. A couple of hotel rooms + food for a one-day delay can push some people over the edge.

I've saved enough money over the years not buying travel insurance and additional warranties that I can afford the likely disruption caused by a cancelled flight.

This reminds me of a trip to the Passport office where a woman was fretting over the additional cost of the same day service, because if she had to pay that she would have any money to spend wherever she was going.

If you finances are that tight maybe you shouldn't be traveling.

formeraa Nov 2, 2017 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 28981640)
And the likely ticket savings on the dirt cheap NYC-MCO routes on other carriers?

Cheapest ticket does not equate to least expensive trip. Not only are there no alternatives, but F9 does not even interline.

I have no idea what the F9 tickets cost, but to put this in perspective, if this happened right now, there are DL seats tomorrow for $190. F9 can't interline, but the passengers are entitled to a full refund and could then head off to JFK.

WN, B6 (domestic), and F9 don't interline. This is one of their drawbacks and it is why many businesses don't permit employees to use those carriers in most circumstances.

Even if F9 interlined, chances are that they wouldn't have been able to get a full plane of passengers out of any NYC area airport (let alone ISP) before the next morning.


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