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jaloola May 3, 2014 7:22 pm

Extend Mileage Expiration Date
 
According to the EarlyReturns Membership Guide, only accruals and not redemptions are considered activity for purposes of Mileage Expiration. Can anyone confirm that is in fact the case?

If so, what is the easiest and most reliable method of accruing miles prior to 06/30/14? Would transferring 1,000 Miles for $10 from another EarlyReturns account through Points.com do the trick?

If not, how efficient in your experience is ThanksAgain in posting miles to EarlyReturns? From my understanding, if I register and buy a cup of coffee from Carl's Jr at LAX, I'll accrue ~2 miles in EarlyReturns within 6-8 weeks?

And yes, that means without actually flying Frontier or signing up for their affinity card prior to 06/30/14.

nwflyboy May 4, 2014 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by jaloola (Post 22805567)
According to the EarlyReturns Membership Guide, only accruals and not redemptions are considered activity for purposes of Mileage Expiration. Can anyone confirm that is in fact the case?

No I can not, but reading the TOS, it sounds pretty cut-and-dried (bolding mine):

"Mileage in a Member's account will not expire so long as the member generates accrual activity in the account."

Looks like you need to accrue points at least every 18 months to keep 'em alive.

I'm up for renewal of my Frontier credit card and am thinking about canceling before the AF hits. I'm assuming that I'll have 18 months to use 'em or lose 'em (or perhaps apply for their credit card again in 14-16 months if I need to extend their life).

italdesign May 4, 2014 10:42 pm

In case you haven't seen it, This article has some ideas.

jaloola May 5, 2014 8:28 pm


Originally Posted by italdesign (Post 22810902)
In case you haven't seen it, This article has some ideas.

I have, but the article is over a year old and I was hoping for some personal experiences from FT, especially when it comes to transferring miles through Points.com and ThanksAgain. While the article does mention transferring miles, it also mentions FTD, 1-800Flowers, and the EarlyReturns Shopping Mall, unfortunately none of which still are partners with F9.

I guess my question is not "How to extend my Mileage Expiration Date?" but "Should I use Points.com or ThanksAgain to extend my Mileage Expiration Date, or neither and why?"

And congratulations to myself on my 100th post :D

nwflyboy May 10, 2014 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by jaloola (Post 22816418)
I have, but the article is over a year old ...

Indeed, and it comes from a notoriously lazy blogger whose only motivation is self-enrichment. Not a source I would rely on.

I note that the language in their agreement is pretty specific: it says "accrual activity."

I could easily see them interpret that to mean that transferring points in (eg from AMEX) might not qualify as "accrual" (technically you accrued points elsewhere and merely moved them in) - but call me cynical.

Anyway, I have enough points for a trip to someplace sunny on Frontier but do not have plans to use them for a year or so. I'm going to kill my Frontier mastercard tomorrow and take my chances. I figure that if I need to extend their life I can try a test transfer of the minimum Amex MR points in about a year; if that doesn't reset the expiration date I can always apply for another Frontier MC then, which should do the trick. Only risks are if they change the rules (always possible) or if they don't want to give me a credit card (which I'm going to doubt, since I'm in the process of divesting all my Barclay cards - I think I'll look good to them in about a year).

italdesign May 13, 2014 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by nwflyboy (Post 22844300)
Anyway, I have enough points for a trip to someplace sunny on Frontier but do not have plans to use them for a year or so. I'm going to kill my Frontier mastercard tomorrow and take my chances. I figure that if I need to extend their life I can try a test transfer of the minimum Amex MR points in about a year; if that doesn't reset the expiration date I can always apply for another Frontier MC then, which should do the trick. Only risks are if they change the rules (always possible) or if they don't want to give me a credit card (which I'm going to doubt, since I'm in the process of divesting all my Barclay cards - I think I'll look good to them in about a year).

I'm guessing you didn't have any spend on the MC recently, or else the miles would be safe for 18 mo after then, more than enough for your year of break.

nwflyboy May 13, 2014 11:43 pm

No, I've got my Frontier MC statement right here, ready to pay. I'm definitely good for 18 months. Just not sure how long it'll be before I use the miles, and looking at contingencies. I'm fine for a while.

FT2013 Jun 2, 2014 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by nwflyboy (Post 22844300)
Indeed, and it comes from a notoriously lazy blogger whose only motivation is self-enrichment. Not a source I would rely on.

I note that the language in their agreement is pretty specific: it says "accrual activity."

I could easily see them interpret that to mean that transferring points in (eg from AMEX) might not qualify as "accrual" (technically you accrued points elsewhere and merely moved them in) - but call me cynical.

Anyway, I have enough points for a trip to someplace sunny on Frontier but do not have plans to use them for a year or so. I'm going to kill my Frontier mastercard tomorrow and take my chances. I figure that if I need to extend their life I can try a test transfer of the minimum Amex MR points in about a year; if that doesn't reset the expiration date I can always apply for another Frontier MC then, which should do the trick. Only risks are if they change the rules (always possible) or if they don't want to give me a credit card (which I'm going to doubt, since I'm in the process of divesting all my Barclay cards - I think I'll look good to them in about a year).

I just transferred Amex points to Frontier and it extended my expiration date.

jacped Jun 3, 2014 11:48 am


Originally Posted by jaloola (Post 22816418)

I guess my question is not "How to extend my Mileage Expiration Date?" but "Should I use Points.com or ThanksAgain to extend my Mileage Expiration Date, or neither and why?"

On points.com, some airlines allow small transfers out. In early 2013, I successfully extended Early Returns expiration by transfer 20 Us Air miles -> 4 Frontier miles.


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