No more DirecTv for Summits eff. Aug 1st, 2013
Jul 10, 2013, 10:22 am
#17
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This change has me thinking about the actual future of Frontier. Clearly they are moving to ULCC much like Spirit and Allegiant. If this is the case, do Spirit and Allegiant have 'loyal' fliers are are the passengers simply the ones that need to get from A to B and cost is all they consider.
If this is the case, can a hub in DEN be sustained? Probably not. Does Spirit and Allegiant have hub operations or simply point-to-points?
I honestly don't see why F9 doesn't seem to really care about sustaining a loyal base. Thoughts?
If this is the case, can a hub in DEN be sustained? Probably not. Does Spirit and Allegiant have hub operations or simply point-to-points?
I honestly don't see why F9 doesn't seem to really care about sustaining a loyal base. Thoughts?
Jul 10, 2013, 10:46 am
#18
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Department of sad ironies: I flew DEN-LAS yesterday and had to inform the FA that this ridiculous policy was coming August 1. She didn't quite believe me in row 1; she began to believe when Summits and Ascents in rows 2 and 3 piped in.
Meanwhile, staring at me on the bulkhead the entire flight was Frontier's advertising tagline, which includes the words "More Perks."
For the love of God.
Meanwhile, staring at me on the bulkhead the entire flight was Frontier's advertising tagline, which includes the words "More Perks."
For the love of God.
Jul 11, 2013, 8:46 pm
#19
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For every Summit that stops flying Frontier, they have to find 15 new customers to fill the revenue gap= advertising $$$...or they could just pay $75 for the 15 flights of DirecTV.
Business 101--- F
Business 101--- F
Jul 12, 2013, 7:04 am
#21
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Even worse- it doesn't cost them $75 for the 15 flights of DirecTV. The TVs are there, watched or not. It's a sunk cost.
Jul 12, 2013, 10:39 am
#22
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I'm pretty sure LiveTV owns those and installs them for free, In exchange F9 gets a portion of the usage fee. So it doesn't cost them the full fee but it does cost them something.
Jul 14, 2013, 1:41 pm
#23
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I was giving them thewhole price as worse case scenario
QUOTE=Jerseyguy;21085379]I'm pretty sure LiveTV owns those and installs them for free, In exchange F9 gets a portion of the usage fee. So it doesn't cost them the full fee but it does cost them something.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=Jerseyguy;21085379]I'm pretty sure LiveTV owns those and installs them for free, In exchange F9 gets a portion of the usage fee. So it doesn't cost them the full fee but it does cost them something.[/QUOTE]
Jul 14, 2013, 9:51 pm
#25
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This change has me thinking about the actual future of Frontier. Clearly they are moving to ULCC much like Spirit and Allegiant. If this is the case, do Spirit and Allegiant have 'loyal' fliers are are the passengers simply the ones that need to get from A to B and cost is all they consider.
If this is the case, can a hub in DEN be sustained? Probably not. Does Spirit and Allegiant have hub operations or simply point-to-points?
I honestly don't see why F9 doesn't seem to really care about sustaining a loyal base. Thoughts?
If this is the case, can a hub in DEN be sustained? Probably not. Does Spirit and Allegiant have hub operations or simply point-to-points?
I honestly don't see why F9 doesn't seem to really care about sustaining a loyal base. Thoughts?
Last edited by Dalat767; Jul 14, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Jul 15, 2013, 2:08 pm
#26
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No more DirecTv for Summits eff. Aug 1st, 2013
DFW is a cluster f}^{ with outsourced staff. Waiting in Summit line while people in front of me are paying for luggage. Slogan should be ... Less and less Perks!!!
And as a Summit... I was put in Zone 3 boarding per my boarding pass
And as a Summit... I was put in Zone 3 boarding per my boarding pass
Jul 17, 2013, 10:38 am
#28
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??? Did your pass say Summit on it? That's nuts!
Jul 19, 2013, 11:33 am
#29
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I wish
...we would get the real reason why they did this. Still don't understand why they can't do TV and instead want to give us a snack box? Doesn't a snack box cost more than a TV signal?
Jul 19, 2013, 11:35 am
#30
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No more boxes of free headphones
Noticed this yesterday - they have removed the large stand-up boxes that were filled with the 5-cent value free headphones. Does this signal another development?