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September T100's (onboard loads)
Here are the September T100's (onboard loads) for Frontier's eastern division and for select competitors. As always, remember that onboard loads are only half the picture when trying to judge the relative financial performance as they tell us pretty much nothing about fare and traffic composition.
Routes primarily served by Airbus / Ejet (Note that the thru-passenger undercount issue was particularly pronounced on some MCI routes as noted below) 94.8% ….. MKE ….. SAN 93.0% ….. MKE ….. SEA 93.0% ….. MKE ….. DEN 92.9% ….. MKE ….. LAS 90.9% ….. MCI ….. SEA ….94.3% one direction, 80.7% the other 87.5% ….. MCI ….. SFO ….94.3% one direction, 80.7% the other 81.4% ….. MCI ….. BOS 80.5% ….. MKE ….. MCO 80.2% ….. MKE ….. PHX 78.3% ….. MCI ….. MSY 78.1% ….. MKE ….. DFW 77.0% ….. MCI ….. DCA 75.7% ….. MKE ….. LGA 73.9% ….. MCI ….. LAX 73.8% ….. MKE ….. MCI 72.6% ….. OMA ….. DCA 70.7% ….. MKE ….. BOS 69.8% ….. MCI ….. LGA 67.7% ….. MKE ….. SAT 67.1% ….. MCI ….. AUS ….74.8% one direction, 59.5% the other 62.2% ….. MKE ….. DCA 58.4% ….. MCI ….. SAT ….64.5% one direction, 52.4% the other 50.8% ….. MCI ….. MSP Routes primarily served by ERJ 91.0% ….. MKE ….. MSP 90.5% ….. MKE ….. PIT 87.4% ….. MKE ….. PHL 86.5% ….. MKE ….. EWR 85.7% ….. MKE ….. BNA 81.8% ….. MKE ….. OMA 79.9% ….. MKE ….. BDL 79.7% ….. MKE ….. IND 78.0% ….. MKE ….. STL 77.5% ….. MKE ….. DSM 76.5% ….. MKE ….. RHI 76.3% ….. MKE ….. BKG 74.8% ….. MKE ….. GRR 74.8% ….. MKE ….. CMH 72.2% ….. MKE ….. FNT 71.2% ….. MKE ….. CLE 70.9% ….. BKG ….. AUS 69.2% ….. MKE ….. MSN 65.5% ….. MKE ….. SDF 64.5% ….. MKE ….. DAY 62.9% ….. MKE ….. GRB 59.0% ….. MKE ….. MBL 47.9% ….. MKE ….. ATW American 74.2%.....MKE.....DFW AirTran 96.9% ….. MKE ….. SFO 96.5% ….. MKE ….. SEA 87.3% ….. MKE ….. LAS 84.9% ….. MKE ….. LAX 83.7% ….. MKE ….. FLL 76.6% ….. MKE ….. MSP 73.1% ….. MKE ….. LGA 71.8% ….. MKE ….. ATL 71.4% ….. MKE ….. MCO 68.8% ….. MKE ….. RSW 68.4% ….. MKE ….. TPA 63.1% ….. MKE ….. DCA 62.4% ….. MKE ….. BOS 59.7% ….. MKE ….. DEN 51.1% ….. MKE ….. BWI 45.3% ….. MKE ….. CAK 40.1% ….. MKE ….. SRQ 23.5% ….. MKE ….. DSM Skywest operating as FL* (operated through 9/7/11) 79.9% ….. MKE ….. PIT 76.1% ….. MKE ….. STL 74.1% ….. MKE ….. CAK 71.1% ….. MKE ….. IND 67.8% ….. MKE ….. OMA 62.2% ….. MKE ….. DSM Southwest 87.5% ….. MKE ….. LAS 85.8% ….. MKE ….. PHX 69.7% ….. MKE ….. DEN 69.2% ….. MKE ….. MCI 69.0% ….. MKE ….. BWI 66.9% ….. MKE ….. MCO 57.5% ….. MKE ….. TPA 46.5% ….. MKE ….. STL DL* at Kansas City 86.4% ….. MCI ….. BOS 79.7% ….. MCI ….. LAX 77.8% ….. MCI ….. MSY 75.7% ….. MCI ….. AUS 71.8% ….. MCI ….. LGA 57.2% ….. MCI ….. CMH DL* at Omaha 71.9%.....OMA.....DCA I'll see if I can get DEN posted fairly soon for those interested. |
Wow.... I assume FL MKE - DSM is mainline 717 aircraft? 23% load factor is not making money for sure.
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Originally Posted by flyYX
(Post 17648915)
Wow.... I assume FL MKE - DSM is mainline 717 aircraft? 23% load factor is not making money for sure.
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You'd think they'd at least have a fire sale on MKE-DSM to try to generate some more revenue.
There aren't better routes that can fly these planes in the interim? It could still be a while before they get them on the WN code to MDW. |
A bit ago I was asked if I had an idea how much of AirTran's September year-over-year traffic fall was due to the Skywest markets ending. With more detailed numbers from the DoT available, I can shed some light on that.
Here's some info comparing 2010 to 2011 for FL/FL* at Milwaukee 2010 versus 2011. Some AirTran markets saw notable increase in frequency. Those markets combined for about 10, 200 more passengers in September 2011 over September 2011. Both MCO and DCA had one more daily flight this year versus last, while the rest of these markets had fewer day-of-week cancelations in 2011 versus last year. In most cases, the increased capacity meant lower -- in some cases much lower -- load factor. 2010 LF.. 2011 LF .. chg in pts .. chg in pax .. 86.6% ….. 71.4% ….. -15.2% ……. 2624 ……. MCO ……. 30 more round trips 88.7% ….. 87.3% ……. -1.4% ……. 2136 ……. LAS ……. 10 more round trips 69.6% ….. 68.8% ……. -0.8% ……. 1505 ……. RSW ……. 11 more round trips 72.4% ….. 63.1% ……. -9.3% ……. 1122 ……. DCA ……. 28 more round trips 94.1% ….. 96.5% ……… 2.4% ……. 1956 ……. SEA ……. 8 more round trips 83.5% ….. 68.4% ….. -15.1% …….. 244 ……. TPA ……. 8 more round trips 90.5% ….. 84.9% ……. -5.6% …….. 683 ……. LAX ……. 8 more round trips Then there was one new market in 2011 and two markets dropped from the prior year. Those combined for a net loss of about 10,700, more tha offsetting the gains in traffic where frequencies were increased (above). +0422.....SRQ -8296.....DFW -2832.....SAN The rest of the AirTran markets which did not see a notable difference in frequency for 2011 versus 2010 combined for a net decreased in about 6,800 passengers year over year. And given that frequency was essentially unchanged, fewer pax meant lower loads in most (but not all) markets, too: 2010 LF.. 2011 LF .. chg in pts .. chg in pax .. 63.8% ….. 83.7% ……. 19.9% ……. 1042 ……. FLL 93.9% ….. 96.9% ……… 3.0% …….. 290 ……. SFO 69.9% ….. 71.8% ……… 1.9% …….. -88 ……. ATL 79.7% ….. 76.6% ……. -3.1% ……. -320 ……. MSP 64.9% ….. 51.1% ….. -13.8% ….. -1420 ……. BWI 76.9% ….. 73.1% ……. -3.8% ….. -1918 ……. LGA 70.3% ….. 62.4% ……. -7.9% ….. -2074 ……. BOS 74.2% ….. 59.7% ….. -14.5% ….. -2339 ……. DEN Last but not least are those Skywest markets. They combined for about 18,500 fewer passengers this year versus last: -4817 ….. IND -5011 ….. OMA -4849 ….. PIT -5410 ….. STL +1402 ….. CAK +0095 ….. DSM Here's some further information on the three former CRJ markets turned to 717 on FL or 737 on WN: Akron 2010 36.0 pax per flight 2011 53.0 pax per flight year-over-year traffic +35.4% year-over-year seats +106.0% Des Moines 2010 28.4 pax per flight 2011 28.0 pax per flight year-over-year traffic +3.0% year-over-year seats +122.9% (note that the Des Moines pax per flight is lower than last year even though traffic is up 3% because there was 1x more round trip flight per week this year than last) St Louis 2010 37.6 pax per fliight 2011 63.7 pax per flight year-over-year traffic +15.8% Obviously September is a slow month, but we shall see how much better these get. Having Frontier out of STL starting in October will help them. Having Frontier out of DSM will give a smaller boost as MKE-DSM is a much smaller market. Anyway...time to shut off electronic devices as we come over Lake Michigan... year-over-year seats +77.6% |
Originally Posted by knope2001
(Post 17664472)
Anyway...time to shut off electronic devices as we come over Lake Michigan...
Get ready to miss it on upcoming flights that don't have gogo. |
Originally Posted by newsmanhoss
(Post 17664697)
You're too funny about that onboard wifi novelty ;)
Get ready to miss it on upcoming flights that don't have gogo. Anyway another great observation Knope. Definitely going to be interesting to see what happens to these markets once the competition from F9 leaves. Could provide clues as to if there is enough traffic to one day support F9 should FL/WN leave them to MKE. Unfortunately for some markets, it doesn't look to hot. I'd consider DSM borderline drivable from MKE for any leisure type traffic. |
Originally Posted by newsmanhoss
(Post 17664697)
You're too funny about that onboard wifi novelty ;)
Get ready to miss it on upcoming flights that don't have gogo. |
Originally Posted by knope2001
(Post 17675530)
LOL...you're probably right, though I am cheap enough to not want to always spring for it.
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