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mke9499 Apr 20, 2011 8:59 am

Schedule extension 2011
 
As of today, the schedule only goes through 11/13/2011. Does anyone know when it will be extended past that date?

It seems really late; the schedule was usually 330 days out, if I'm not mistaken.

FWIW, neither FL nor WN has extended their schedules past November, either. Could this be a wait-and-see scenario, related to the competition?

RSVP Apr 20, 2011 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 16250590)
It seems really late; the schedule was usually 330 days out, if I'm not mistaken.

In the days of Midwest. Just like any other LCC, it's unpredictable.

DBCooper Apr 30, 2011 9:35 pm

The schedule extension will be in effect on Sunday, 5/1.

RSVP Apr 30, 2011 10:07 pm

From Facebook
 
Frontier Airlines
Our early winter schedule posts tomorrow. Book your trips now through January 8, 2012.

mke9499 May 4, 2011 10:46 am


Originally Posted by RSVP (Post 16307930)
Frontier Airlines
Our early winter schedule posts tomorrow. Book your trips now through January 8, 2012.

The schedule has reverted back...now only thru November 13, 2011. Earlier this morning, it was available thru 01/08/2012.

What's up?

MostlyAir May 4, 2011 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 16327235)
The schedule has reverted back...now only thru November 13, 2011. Earlier this morning, it was available thru 01/08/2012.

What's up?

The new website and old website calendars are different. I assume you're looking at the new website? We're working on that one.

mke9499 May 4, 2011 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by MostlyAir (Post 16328163)
The new website and old website calendars are different. I assume you're looking at the new website? We're working on that one.

Different browsers take me into different versions. When I checked on personal laptop this morning, I was viewing old site. When I logged in from my office, I got into "refreshed" site with one browser and old site on another.

What determines which version is accessed?

MostlyAir May 4, 2011 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 16328308)
Different browsers take me into different versions. When I checked on personal laptop this morning, I was viewing old site. When I logged in from my office, I got into "refreshed" site with one browser and old site on another.

What determines which version is accessed?

Not really sure. But the calendar has been fixed. Just for you. :D

Both calendars should be 1/8. Let me know if you see the Nov. 13th date again.

J

RSVP May 4, 2011 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 16327235)
The schedule has reverted back...now only thru November 13, 2011. Earlier this morning, it was available thru 01/08/2012.

What's up?

I saw the same thing this morning. As Mostly Air reports, its been fixed.

mke9499 May 24, 2011 6:48 am

This morning, before 6:30 AM CDT, WN extended their schedule, with no surprises so far, for MKE.

As of this posting, FL has not yet extended their schedule past Dec 4.

Even if there are some changes which would provide opportunities for F9, lack of aircraft and uncertain fuel expense will presumably limit their options.

knope2001 May 24, 2011 8:08 am

Two things I noticed in the new WN schedule:

MKE-PHX drops from 2x to 1x as of 11/6. It does operate for two peak days each before and after Thanksgiving, two peak days before and after Christmas, and two peak days before and one peak day after New Year's Day. Other than those few peak days, it looks to be only 1x. That brings WN down to 10/x day at Milwaukee. Probably not conincidentally, the AirTran schedule shows the seasonal return of MKE-PHX in November.

The other thing I noticed at MKE is that MKE-MCI continues to be a business-poor schedule. Since cutting MKE-MCI from 3x to 2x early this year, the flight times have jumped around a lot, sometimes to useful business schedules and sometimes to not-so-useful ones. The new schedule pretty much keeps the times consistant from late summer through fall and into January, but they are not especially good business times. Starting in later summer, MKE-MCI are at about 1:00pm and 5:00pm, and MCI-MKE are at about 11:00am and 3:30pm. That pretty much rules out same-day travel either direction, and with no early morning flight either direction you're stuck traveling the night before.

mke9499 May 24, 2011 8:36 am


Originally Posted by knope2001 (Post 16440191)
Two things I noticed in the new WN schedule:

MKE-PHX drops from 2x to 1x as of 11/6. It does operate for two peak days each before and after Thanksgiving, two peak days before and after Christmas, and two peak days before and one peak day after New Year's Day. Other than those few peak days, it looks to be only 1x. That brings WN down to 10/x day at Milwaukee. Probably not conincidentally, the AirTran schedule shows the seasonal return of MKE-PHX in November.

The other thing I noticed at MKE is that MKE-MCI continues to be a business-poor schedule. Since cutting MKE-MCI from 3x to 2x early this year, the flight times have jumped around a lot, sometimes to useful business schedules and sometimes to not-so-useful ones. The new schedule pretty much keeps the times consistant from late summer through fall and into January, but they are not especially good business times. Starting in later summer, MKE-MCI are at about 1:00pm and 5:00pm, and MCI-MKE are at about 11:00am and 3:30pm. That pretty much rules out same-day travel either direction, and with no early morning flight either direction you're stuck traveling the night before.

Adding an extra nonstop around the holidays also seems to hold true for MKE-MCI-MKE and MKE-BWI-MKE. The additional flights are obviously targeted to connecting traffic and will be heavily booked.

When I checked award availability for a couple of routes within minutes of the schedule extension coming up this morning, I could see very good selection of flights, most connecting at MCI. Now, three hours later, those same flights are no longer available.

knope2001 May 24, 2011 8:56 am


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 16440360)
Adding an extra nonstop around the holidays also seems to hold true for MKE-MCI-MKE and MKE-BWI-MKE. The additional flights are obviously targeted to connecting traffic and will be heavily booked.

Makes sense...I did not check all the routes around the holiday peak days, but mostly checked to see if PHX was being restored. But it makes sense that if they are getting an extra PHX flight in during the peak demand days, the aircraft they are using to make that happen can do some other things, too.


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 16440360)
When I checked award availability for a couple of routes within minutes of the schedule extension coming up this morning, I could see very good selection of flights, most connecting at MCI. Now, three hours later, those same flights are no longer available.

They really do have a core group of customers who are groomed to pounce when the new schedule is loaded...

Tim34 May 29, 2011 7:38 pm

MKE-LAX,SFO RDU end June 6
 
I did not see anyone reporting this. This is not good news
http://www.jsonline.com/business/121402303.html

flyYX May 29, 2011 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by Tim34 (Post 16471010)
I did not see anyone reporting this. This is not good news
http://www.jsonline.com/business/121402303.html

Bryan Bedford just sent out a memo to his employees about restructuring Frontier. Seems more cuts and cost savings will need to happen to keep the company afloat. I don't feel right posting the memo here, but you can read it on airliners.net, reply 148.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5141126/


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