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flyYX Jan 25, 2011 8:32 am

Frontier and the Super Bowl
 
I noticed on Airliners.net that DL is adding significant lift from GRB and MKE to DFW for the Super Bowl. My question is.... Did Frontier not have enough planes to provide extra lift or are they doing the Funjet Charters? Here is what was posted on Airliners.net for DL.

GRB-DFW
Feb 3
DL XXXX Dep 2:25p Arr: 5:25p CRJ-900 OPERATED BY COMAIR

MKE-DFW
Feb 3
DL XXXX Dep: 3:00p Arr: 5:45p 757-200
Feb 4
DL XXXX Dep: 6:10a Arr: 8:55a 737

DFW-GRB
Feb 7
DL XXXX Dep: 1:10a Arr: 3:20a 757-200

DFW-MKE
Feb 7
DL XXXX Dep: 1:10a Arr: 3:00a 767-300

mke9499 Jan 25, 2011 9:09 am

Funjet charter availability - AirTran

Depart Friday, February 04, 2011
01:45 PM Leaves Milwaukee (MKE)
Arrives in Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 04:15 PM
#8459
Non Stop
Charter Operated
Return Monday, February 07, 2011
03:45 PM Leaves Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
Arrives in Milwaukee (MKE) 06:15 PM
#8460
Non Stop

Charter Operated
Price for all travelers includes Flights and certain taxes & services.
$1,019.89

Only 1 seat available

GRB-DFW Sun Country charters still available thru Funjet, with upgrade to F available.

Frontier actually put an Airbus on the MKE-DFW outbound Feb 3, instead of the usual E170.

flyYX Jan 25, 2011 9:42 am


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 15730972)
Funjet charter availability - AirTran

Depart Friday, February 04, 2011
01:45 PM Leaves Milwaukee (MKE)
Arrives in Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 04:15 PM
#8459
Non Stop
Charter Operated
Return Monday, February 07, 2011
03:45 PM Leaves Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
Arrives in Milwaukee (MKE) 06:15 PM
#8460
Non Stop

Charter Operated
Price for all travelers includes Flights and certain taxes & services.
$1,019.89

Only 1 seat available

GRB-DFW Sun Country charters still available thru Funjet, with upgrade to F available.

Frontier actually put an Airbus on the MKE-DFW outbound Feb 3, instead of the usual E170.

I heard Funjet has three charters from GRB and 2 from MKE for the Super Bowl. It was on the Channel 4 News last night. Thanks for the information.

mke9499 Jan 25, 2011 11:40 am

There are also game-day charters, departing Sunday A.M. and returning right after the game. There is a disclaimer that the tour operator is not responsible for cancelled/delayed flights which could cause the traveler to miss the game. :eek:
http://fwt.packerfantours.com/specia.../xlv/game_day/

The same-day option is sold-out!

Round two of the air/land packages is also sold-out, with the tour operator trying to put more together.


At this time we have SOLD OUT (again) of packages to sell until later today. We would be happy to contact you when additional space becomes available and would advise that you be prepared to make a decision to purchase due to high demand.

flyYX Jan 25, 2011 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 15732171)
There are also game-day charters, departing Sunday A.M. and returning right after the game. There is a disclaimer that the tour operator is not responsible for cancelled/delayed flights which could cause the traveler to miss the game. :eek:
http://fwt.packerfantours.com/specia.../xlv/game_day/

The same-day option is sold-out!

Round two of the air/land packages is also sold-out, with the tour operator trying to put more together.

I'm not so sure everyone will have tickets for the game inside the stadium... but I did hear there is a cheaper option to be there and watch the game on jumbo screen TV's just outside of the stadium for 200 bucks a person. Jerry Jones sure knows how to make money.

RSVP Jan 25, 2011 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 15732171)
There are also game-day charters, departing Sunday A.M. and returning right after the game. There is a disclaimer that the tour operator is not responsible for cancelled/delayed flights which could cause the traveler to miss the game. :eek:

Far too risky given MKE weather conditions. We have been fortunate thus far, but one never knows.

flyYX Jan 25, 2011 5:35 pm

Here is a Frontier response to additional flights to DFW from MKE.


"We haven't increased frequencies out of Milwaukee yet, but our scheduling and revenue management teams will certainly be looking at the weekend to determine what we can do to help get Packers and Steelers fans to the Super Bowl," Frontier spokeswoman Lindsey Purves wrote us.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/a...getting-f.html

Also WN is getting in on the action. They will be adding 2 one-stop flights each from MKE and PIT to DAL. They can't do non-stop at this time because of the Wright Amendment.

buckeyefanflyer Jan 25, 2011 5:37 pm

I thought the Wright Amendment was gone?

flyYX Jan 25, 2011 6:13 pm


Originally Posted by buckeyefanflyer (Post 15734727)
I thought the Wright Amendment was gone?

As I understand it, it will not be totally gone until 2014.

mke9499 Jan 25, 2011 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by flyYX (Post 15734718)
Here is a Frontier response to additional flights to DFW from MKE.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/a...getting-f.html

Also WN is getting in on the action. They will be adding 2 one-stop flights each from MKE and PIT to DAL. They can't do non-stop at this time because of the Wright Amendment.

WN has bumped their usual fares by $300 one-way for MKE-DAL one-stops the few days before and after the game.

AirTran has some availability on a morning nonstop DFW-MKE, at a not outrageous fare.

HKG_Flyer1 Jan 26, 2011 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by flyYX (Post 15734928)
As I understand it, it will not be totally gone until 2014.

Even then, it won't really be gone. North Texas will still be exempted from both the Sherman Anti-trust Act as well as the Airline Deregulation Act, and will be subject to an airline cartel dominated by American Airlines for the foreseeable future. The Wright Amendment revision merely swaps one form of monopolistic protection (geographic restrictions on flights) for another (a hard gate cap in the North Texas catchment area coupled with long term gate leases which serve to inhibit competition).

mke9499 Jan 27, 2011 10:29 am


Originally Posted by mke9499 (Post 15735214)
WN has bumped their usual fares by $300 one-way for MKE-DAL one-stops the few days before and after the game.

AirTran has some availability on a morning nonstop DFW-MKE, at a not outrageous fare.

WN really dropped MKE-DAL fares for Super Bowl. Direct flights at good times now available from $165 before Super Bowl Sunday, or $147 if someone wants to risk a Sunday morning flight.

flyYX Jan 28, 2011 7:22 am


Originally Posted by HKG_Flyer1 (Post 15740182)
Even then, it won't really be gone. North Texas will still be exempted from both the Sherman Anti-trust Act as well as the Airline Deregulation Act, and will be subject to an airline cartel dominated by American Airlines for the foreseeable future. The Wright Amendment revision merely swaps one form of monopolistic protection (geographic restrictions on flights) for another (a hard gate cap in the North Texas catchment area coupled with long term gate leases which serve to inhibit competition).

Seems anti business to keep this outdated law on the books. The rest of the country enjoys competition and free enterprise in the airline industry. If AA can't make it without this amendment in place, they shouldn't be in business at all.

tvnwz Jan 28, 2011 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by flyYX (Post 15753397)
Seems anti business to keep this outdated law on the books. The rest of the country enjoys competition and free enterprise in the airline industry. If AA can't make it without this amendment in place, they shouldn't be in business at all.

The amendment was more against Southwest than for AA. It was to make sure WN, and any other airline, could not skirt the use of DFW easily or without restrictions. So, it was really an amendment by Jim Wright to protect DFW more than AA.

There is no doubt it is anti-competitive. It was designed that way on purpose. Over the years it has come to favor AA and penalize WN at DAL. Even when it goes away, it still will restrict WN by setting a total number of gates the airline can operate at DAL.

Good ole boy Texas politics. No state does better at it.

ByrdluvsAWACO Jan 31, 2011 3:35 pm


Originally Posted by tvnwz (Post 15758158)
There is no doubt it is anti-competitive. It was designed that way on purpose. Over the years it has come to favor AA and penalize WN at DAL. Even when it goes away, it still will restrict WN by setting a total number of gates the airline can operate at DAL.

Good ole boy Texas politics. No state does better at it.

WN decided and sued to stay at DAL, they chose not to be a signatory to a DFW operating agreement. They made their choice, so no sympathy here. :rolleyes:


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