Free Clear card for F9 Summit members
#1
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: BAEC Silver, WN CP, Marriott Gold
Posts: 424
Free Clear card for F9 Summit members
Bravo Frontier! From the Denver Business Journal:
Frontier signs marketing deal with Clear
The basics - Summits get a free 12-month Clear card (current cost: $128), Ascents get an extra month when they buy a card (13 months for the price of a 12 month card). You do have to submit fingerprints, iris scan, and a background check (the gov't already has 2/3 of these on me so I'm not too worked up about it, others may have bigger qualms).
I have noticed at least one airport that I fly (LGA) which has new Clear lanes, but no Elite lanes. This will be a big help! Now the question will be, at airports which have both Elite and Clear lanes, which one will be faster?
Also of interest, a F9 spokesman mentioned to the Journal that they had 8,700 Summit members currently.
Frontier signs marketing deal with Clear
The basics - Summits get a free 12-month Clear card (current cost: $128), Ascents get an extra month when they buy a card (13 months for the price of a 12 month card). You do have to submit fingerprints, iris scan, and a background check (the gov't already has 2/3 of these on me so I'm not too worked up about it, others may have bigger qualms).
I have noticed at least one airport that I fly (LGA) which has new Clear lanes, but no Elite lanes. This will be a big help! Now the question will be, at airports which have both Elite and Clear lanes, which one will be faster?
Also of interest, a F9 spokesman mentioned to the Journal that they had 8,700 Summit members currently.
#2
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 41
Clear, hands down. At least from my first experience using it. I got Clear free with the Hyatt program. I tried in DEN on Monday, after clearing my fingerprint and ID a Clear employee takes your stuff in the grey bins directly to the front of the X-ray line. (yes, you cut the security line then you cut the line waiting for the x-ray) It is like a valet service. Somewhat embarrassing but cool. I may have been in line for a total of 60 sec. As you in DEN know on a Monday morning that is pretty awesome!!
#3
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Very cool about skipping the x-ray line. I'm curious if that's just in DEN, or a part of the Clear program. I ask because I do a lot of flying out of LGA, where there is a Clear station in the main terminal, but I don't know how they could possibly send you straight to the machines. The Clear station is on the left side of the pre-id-check line, and seems to just funnel you into the normal x-ray line, where there not really any open area that could be used to "cut in front" of the others waiting, the way there is in DEN. Maybe it's on an airport-by-airport basis? Regardless, it will be very useful.
Besides the fact that they carry your stuff for you, are you treated any differently? Shoes and coats still have to come off, laptops out, TSA agent attitudes still wildly unpredictable? If there is no difference in the actual screening process, does Clear actually help improve the level of security, or just provide a "faster" experience to the individual, while not helping the overall "system"?
Besides the fact that they carry your stuff for you, are you treated any differently? Shoes and coats still have to come off, laptops out, TSA agent attitudes still wildly unpredictable? If there is no difference in the actual screening process, does Clear actually help improve the level of security, or just provide a "faster" experience to the individual, while not helping the overall "system"?
#4
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 41
Good questions, not sure what kind of improved level of security there is. Why do I need to show my ID if I passed a background check then passed a fingerprint check on site?
I can't speak to other airports, my business takes me to airports not serviced by clear.
Shoes and coats come off, no real difference to the screening process other than you feel like a VIP cutting the X-ray line. Certainly faster for the individual (at this time) but not sure about the system. I am not sure it was designed to speed up the system. I think it was designed to make it faster for those willing to pay, kind of like E470. I wonder when there are 20 or more clear passengers on line will they be have the personnel to take your stuff up to the front, etc? Not sure.
I can't speak to other airports, my business takes me to airports not serviced by clear.
Shoes and coats come off, no real difference to the screening process other than you feel like a VIP cutting the X-ray line. Certainly faster for the individual (at this time) but not sure about the system. I am not sure it was designed to speed up the system. I think it was designed to make it faster for those willing to pay, kind of like E470. I wonder when there are 20 or more clear passengers on line will they be have the personnel to take your stuff up to the front, etc? Not sure.
#5
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 95
I think you hit the nail on the head with this point. IIRC, at one time, Clear travelers did receive perks based on the fact that they passed a background check. For example, previously they would not be subjected to secondary screening (SSSS). That is no longer the case. There is a great deal of discussion on the merits and flaws of the program in the Travel Safety/Security forum.
Nonetheless, if any of my loyalty programs offered a complimentary membership in Clear, I'd likely go for it.
Nonetheless, if any of my loyalty programs offered a complimentary membership in Clear, I'd likely go for it.
#6
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver, CO & New York, NY
Programs: F9, UA, AA, CO, FL, DL
Posts: 54
Very cool about skipping the x-ray line. I'm curious if that's just in DEN, or a part of the Clear program. I ask because I do a lot of flying out of LGA, where there is a Clear station in the main terminal, but I don't know how they could possibly send you straight to the machines. The Clear station is on the left side of the pre-id-check line, and seems to just funnel you into the normal x-ray line, where there not really any open area that could be used to "cut in front" of the others waiting, the way there is in DEN. Maybe it's on an airport-by-airport basis? Regardless, it will be very useful.
Besides the fact that they carry your stuff for you, are you treated any differently? Shoes and coats still have to come off, laptops out, TSA agent attitudes still wildly unpredictable? If there is no difference in the actual screening process, does Clear actually help improve the level of security, or just provide a "faster" experience to the individual, while not helping the overall "system"?
Besides the fact that they carry your stuff for you, are you treated any differently? Shoes and coats still have to come off, laptops out, TSA agent attitudes still wildly unpredictable? If there is no difference in the actual screening process, does Clear actually help improve the level of security, or just provide a "faster" experience to the individual, while not helping the overall "system"?
It is an odd experience though - people look at you and will even ask why you get to skip ahead. The clear people handle it though, and simply state that as a registered traveler Mr. F9sjackrules isn't subject to waiting in the security line like other pax.
#7
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: BAEC Silver, WN CP, Marriott Gold
Posts: 424
What a great marketing opportunity for the Clear folks to the people standing in line... seeing people pushed in front of you, then finding out that you too can can get the same treatment for the relatively cheap $128/yr... I have to admit, now that I know what it gives you, if F9 wasn't picking up the tab, I'd pay it myself immediately.
#8
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: DEN
Programs: Frontier Summit, Marriott Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 171
Clear puts you at the front of the x-ray line everywhere - even at LGA. I've used it weekly at LGA since the clear lanes opened this summer. They push through the other passengers and put at the head of the x-ray line. You are still subjected to the shoe carnival and the kippie bags, however you are not subjected to secondary screenings should you get the kiSSSS of death on your boarding pass.
No word yet from my company on covering Clear for us travelers. I guess we need to wait till our CEO gets a RT cutting in front of him
#10
Join Date: May 2005
Programs: UA
Posts: 1,775
#12
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Downtown Denver
Programs: WN A-list/CP, HHonors Diamond, IHG Plt,*wood Plt,F9 Summitt, Hyatt Diamond,
Posts: 391
Got my Clear last week, haven't used yet. ATL has no clear lines, what a mess. Will letters really help as Clear site proposes.
#13
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DEN
Programs: United, Marriott, Choice, Avis, Hertz
Posts: 271
The two times I have used Clear, I've had to show my ID and boarding pass 3 times before I go through the detector, and once afterwards. Elite is probably close to as fast, plus I can bring my wife through the elite line when we are on leisure travel, and I don't think Clear would allow that. Unless they add more airports that I travel to, I won't renew my free subscription.