guidebooks
What is a good/the best English-language guidebook to France? I would hope for a hefty section on Paris with some info on other regions; museums; thorough info on trains and public transport; and ideally tips for off-the-beaten-track shopping and solid (but not necessarily specatular) dining. I'm neither high-end nor low-end but very middle; but can do the occasional run to either end.
Normally, I find the 'Lonely Planet' series OK, but I haven't been to Europe in a while and thought I should check with you experts. |
Normally, I find the 'Lonely Planet' series OK, but I haven't been to Europe in a while and thought I should check with you experts. LP is strong in some areas, Moon in others, RoughGuide in other.... I really enjoyed Cadogan for Paris but I have to confess it was 5+ yrs ago. |
I assume you will be in Paris. Where else in France? No reason to carry around big books covering the whole country if you will only be going to a couple of places other than Paris. Also - in general - I like to carry separate sightseeing and food guides (and will be doing that on our trip to Paris this fall). Robyn
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I'm not usually a Rick Steves fan, but I used his book for a recent trip to Paris and was pretty pleased with it for info on sightseeing, especially.
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Your local library usually has a good variety of guidebooks, although they aren't necessarily the most current. I usually check out an armload of them, and then use amazon.com to order my favorite for the trip. I have actually taken the library book with me, but usually prefer ownership so I can mark them up.
And I usually end up buying the Lonely Planet one. I like the maps and specific directions and walking tours. Consider one on just Paris too. The city specific ones are nice light slim little things for traveling. Romelle |
For our handful of trips to Europe we've used Lonely Planet, Frommers, and Rick Steves. Of late and going forward, we're pretty much just bringing a Rick Steves book supplemented with personal pre-trip research on the Internet. I don't think we've used the France country guide but instead went with the Paris and the Provence/French Riviera books when we visited Paris, Nice/Villefranche sur Mer, Arles, Pont du Gard, etc. last year. I'd expect a good chunk of his Paris guide, which we found great, would be in his France guide.
What I like about the Rick Steves guides - His commentary. You kind of need to like his style. - Directions and tips. I think his directions are very good. Very good local and side trip transportation information. And his tips for skipping lines, etc are great. - Simple maps. This is hit or miss depending on the situation but most of the time I just need a simple map to get me in the right direction and I'll figure the rest out myself or reference a better map What I don't like about the Rick Steves guides - I typically don't like his restaurant recommendations. We usually research this ourselves. - I don't recall shopping being a strong point in his books either. I think his main audience are middle aged, middle of the road travelers which I think is what the OP is looking for. The books do include sections for side trips and instructions on how to get there of course I also have to recommend Sandra Gustafson's Great Eats Paris book. Excellent dining recommendations. |
Originally Posted by Jay71
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What I like about the Rick Steves guides
- His commentary. You kind of need to like his style. - Directions and tips. I think his directions are very good. Very good local and side trip transportation information. And his tips for skipping lines, etc are great. - Simple maps. This is hit or miss depending on the situation but most of the time I just need a simple map to get me in the right direction and I'll figure the rest out myself or reference a better map What I don't like about the Rick Steves guides - I typically don't like his restaurant recommendations. We usually research this ourselves. - I don't recall shopping being a strong point in his books either. |
Thanks for the various tips. I have to say I didn't know about Rick Steves; I'll definitely take a look. I'm not a shopper, so that's all right. I'll check out separate restaurant guides. I'll be staying in Paris, so maybe I need a Paris-only guide; but I'll be making some trips as well.
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Remember that all printed guides are a bit old by the time they are printed and sold. I do much better with internet WEB sites especially those that are put out by the cities themselves.
That said, the best hotel and restaurant tips i've gotten have been from FT! |
Originally Posted by oldpenny16
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Remember that all printed guides are a bit old by the time they are printed and sold. I do much better with internet WEB sites especially those that are put out by the cities themselves.
True! I like wikitravel. They have many pages at varying levels of detail. They have a great Paris page... and then a detailed page for each arrondissement! They are great at getting a feel for a place. I confess that I don't think I've ever used them to get a restaurant recommendation. But I guess I predict that a webguide by the people, for the people is probably pretty reliable. |
Originally Posted by oldpenny16
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Remember that all printed guides are a bit old by the time they are printed and sold.
No book can be completely up to date but his update process is also a strong point of his books as they are updated on a yearly basis. Information is gather by him through his annual stints to Europe and through his guided tour infrastructure. He sells tours (as well as books) and gathers info from his guides. I'm not sure if this is an annual thing but I believe he occasionally also brings his guides to his head office in Edmonds, WA to collaborate. In between yearly editions, official updates and corrections are supplied on his website by his team while readers can also submit info in a separate section (that supposedly gets reviewed for corrections to the next edition). |
Originally Posted by oldpenny16
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That said, the best hotel and restaurant tips i've gotten have been from FT!
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Recently someone asked my advice about guidebooks to France. I lived in Paris for ten years, am a French teacher, and know the country very well. I spent two hours at Barnes and Noble this week, reading through the guidebooks. Some were reasonably good, others were realistic options for a neophyte, but I didn't love any of them. I think that the Eyewitness or Michelin books are good for the museums and main tourist attractions, but you can get everything else that you need from FT. I do get a kick out of the old Baedecker guides, BTW.
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Originally Posted by georgemma
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Recently someone asked my advice about guidebooks to France. I lived in Paris for ten years, am a French teacher, and know the country very well. I spent two hours at Barnes and Noble this week, reading through the guidebooks. Some were reasonably good, others were realistic options for a neophyte, but I didn't love any of them. I think that the Eyewitness or Michelin books are good for the museums and main tourist attractions, but you can get everything else that you need from FT. I do get a kick out of the old Baedecker guides, BTW.
Mr. Tb still likes the Red Guides for hotels and restaurants; I am more likely to consult FT. |
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