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hungry Aug 3, 2016 11:23 pm

Paris orly
 
Off to Paris today into ORLY. Staying in Bercy village.

Public transport would be easy I think but I hear that the ORLY monorail thing that links airport to the metro system is eye wateringly expensive. Apparently it only takes a few minutes from west terminal to the station, and is a driverless monorail (I have in my mind something like the LGW shuttle system).

I refuse to be taken the p*** out of by the French if indeed this thing is a rip off.

Are there any alternatives? Someone mentioned there is a bus service to Denfert Rochercheau, from where we can take one metro to our gaff at Bercy.. I assume this is cheaper but again can't find any fares online?

Or how much would a good old sherbet be from ORLY airport and how long would it likely take?

Thanks in advance

Tamino Aug 4, 2016 1:51 am

I should think that public transportation from ORY to Bercy is rather convoluted, time consuming, and requires a series of changes.

You could take the bus to Denfert Rochereau, 8€, but then you still have to reach Bercy. Métro line 6 is the obvious chose but that only takes you to Bercy station, cost 1.90€ plus the time to purchase tickets. I would allow 60 to 75 minutes.

You could also take Tramway 7 from Orly Sud to Villejuif, 1.90€, then Métro 7 to Place d´Italie, connecting Métro 6 to Bercy, for a second ticket at 1.90€ I would allow from 75 to 90 minutes for this route.

Alternatively, you could take the Orlyval, the rail line to which you refer, to Antony, connect to the RER B until Denfert Rochereau and then connect to M6 to Bercy - cost 12.05€ and about 45 minutes.

You could take the shuttle bus to Pont de Rungis, connect to the RER C, at Gare d´Austerlitz transition to Métro 14 to Bercy, cost 6.25€ and about 45 minutes en route.

However, a taxi will cost you a flat 35€ and will be the easiest, if not the fastest option. Do not accept offers from clandestine drivers soliciting from within the terminals. Proceed to the official taxi queue. Travel time is about 15 to 30 minutes, door to door.

stut Aug 4, 2016 1:57 am

The through fare from central Paris to Orly via the Orlyval you mention is €12.05 (vs €3.55 for the equivalent journey to zone 3).

I guess your other option from where you are (assuming you're near Cour St Émilion station) is to take M14 to Bibliotheque FM and change to RER C as far as Pont de Rungis where there's a shuttle bus to the airport. This RER runs every 15 minutes and takes 22 minutes, with a connecting shuttle bus taking 5-10 minutes. Through ticket is €6.25.

[oops, misread - assume directions in reverse!]

hungry Aug 4, 2016 2:26 am

Sherbet it is a reckon...

How can the public transport be so crappy and expensive for a big airport in Paris??

Are the queues normally long ?

aamilesslave Aug 4, 2016 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by hungry (Post 27013064)
Sherbet it is a reckon...

How can the public transport be so crappy and expensive for a big airport in Paris??

Are the queues normally long ?

It's not really crappy if you have good access to the RER B or are on the OrlyBus route. It's just that Bercy isn't the best location for that. There certainly is an airport premium for public transportation, but that is the case in many cities. If you are one person travelling, public transport is very cost effective. If 2 people, taxis aren't much more.

Non-NonRev Aug 4, 2016 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by aamilesslave (Post 27015797)
There certainly is an airport premium for public transportation, but that is the case in many cities. If you are one person travelling, public transport is very cost effective. If 2 people, taxis aren't much more.

+1

This is very common, one example being BART from SFO to The City; $4.35 from airport adjacent San Bruno station, $8.95 from the in-airport station.

Goldorak Aug 5, 2016 2:30 am

If you think public transportations are expensive in France, then never go to UK or the Scandinavian countries :rolleyes:

hungry Aug 6, 2016 7:03 am

Thanks for tips everyone . Worked out fine. 35 euro cab was perfect to the gaff we was staying in.

However coming back I got the hotel reception to get us a cab... And when we got back to airport the driver charged us an extra €7 on top of the 35 !!!!!!! What a dam rip off....

Apparently the fee was for the hotel calling a cab, rather than hailing one on the street.

Never heard anything so stupid. €7 just for that. He didn't get a tip !!

The hotel should have warned us.

Anyway won't be off to Paris again any time soon, average €7/8 for a pint ! Robbing gits ...

Oh well thanks again for the tips everyone.. But be warned. ALWAYS HAIL A CAB ON THE STREET- DONT GET THE HOTEL TO CALL IT

ajGoes Aug 6, 2016 10:04 am

The Parisians may not feel their loss too keenly.

For lurkers: although I have successfully hailed a cab in Paris, I learned later that cabbies aren't supposed to respond. Instead, find the nearest taxi stand. They're clearly marked on maps never far away.

Tamino Aug 6, 2016 10:05 am


Originally Posted by hungry (Post 27023880)
However coming back I got the hotel reception to get us a cab... And when we got back to airport the driver charged us an extra €7 on top of the 35 !!!!!!! What a dam rip off....

Apparently the fee was for the hotel calling a cab, rather than hailing one on the street.

Never heard anything so stupid. €7 just for that.

The fee was not for the hotel calling you a cab, 7€ is the standard fee for reserving a taxi. Even if you had called yourself, the fee would have been 7€. The fee is only 4€ if you call for immediate pickup or you can walk to a taxi stand and avoid the dispatch fee.


Originally Posted by hungry (Post 27023880)
He didn't get a tip !!

He wasn´t expecting one. Taxi drivers are not tipped. You didn´t tip the driver who brought you from the airport to your hotel did you?

Tamino Aug 6, 2016 10:09 am


Originally Posted by ajGoes (Post 27024480)
The Parisians may not feel their loss too keenly.

;)


Originally Posted by ajGoes (Post 27024480)
For lurkers: although I have successfully hailed a cab in Paris, I learned later that cabbies aren't supposed to respond.

That is true only within 50 meters of a taxi stand. Otherwise, you can hale any taxi with a green light illuminated on the top of the cab. (Red light means the taxi has a fare.)

ajGoes Aug 6, 2016 11:13 am


Originally Posted by Tamino (Post 27024481)
He wasn´t expecting one. Taxi drivers are not tipped. You didn´t tip the driver who brought you from the airport to your hotel did you?

Isn't it conventional to give a small tip by rounding up the fare?


Originally Posted by Tamino (Post 27024492)
That is true only within 50 meters of a taxi stand. Otherwise, you can hail any taxi with a green light illuminated on the top of the cab. (Red light means the taxi has a fare.)

I'll try to remember that, thanks.

Tamino Aug 6, 2016 11:20 am


Originally Posted by ajGoes (Post 27024692)
Isn't it conventional to give a small tip by rounding up the fare?

Nothing wrong with that but the fare is fixed between ORY and the Right bank at 35€. Rounding up to 40€ would be a sizable tip of about 15%. I just give the driver the exact change when traveling from the airports. He´s not really expecting tips beyond small rounding amounts anyway.

Goldorak Aug 6, 2016 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by ajGoes (Post 27024480)
The Parisians may not feel their loss too keenly.

Indeed :D

hungry Aug 7, 2016 1:05 am


Originally Posted by Tamino (Post 27024481)
The fee was not for the hotel calling you a cab, 7€ is the standard fee for reserving a taxi. Even if you had called yourself, the fee would have been 7€. The fee is only 4€ if you call for immediate pickup or you can walk to a taxi stand and avoid the dispatch fee.



He wasn´t expecting one. Taxi drivers are not tipped. You didn´t tip the driver who brought you from the airport to your hotel did you?

Yes I gave him €38 for the fare + tip


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