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Old Feb 6, 13, 2:56 pm
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US to AF Connection @ CDG: PHL - CDG - FCO Flights

We are traveling in Envoy from PHL - CDG & have a 1.5 hour layover to catch an Air France flight to FCO. We did this to enjoy the Envoy of the 330 vs 767 that flies to FCO. We have never been to CDG, just wondering if anyone has any suggestions when we make the connection based on their own experiences with CDG.

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Old Feb 6, 13, 3:06 pm
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Moving this over to the France forum here on Flyertalk. Thanks!



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Old Feb 6, 13, 4:15 pm
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Bad move. US is at CDG1 and AF is at CDG 2. Very difficult to make a 1.5 hr connection within CDG2...almost impossible with a CDG 1 to CDG 2 connection. Book a later flight...
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Old Feb 7, 13, 3:19 am
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Agreed, you may wish to rethink going via CDG if you have the option to fly non-stop to FCO .... I've done this inter-terminal transfer at CDG and will do anything to avoid it, you cannot believe how bad it is much of the time. A shame as CDG could be a nice airport, if only they ran it differently.
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Old Feb 7, 13, 7:01 am
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As others have said, this will be a challenge. Making transfers within CDG2 takes nearly an hour, even with access to priority security. Coming in from CDG1 will be even more difficult. I agree with the advice to rebook to a later connection if possible; I would leave at least two and a half hours.

You will need to clear immigration as quickly as possible -- with luck, there will be no other flights arriving in the satellite where US comes in at the same time. Then you will hightail it to CDGVal, which is the automatic shuttle that runs between CDG1 and CDG2. That takes about 10 mins. You will then need to walk to whatever part of CDG2 where your flight to FCO leaves and clear security. (I think Schengen flights on AF these days are all in 2F, which is another 5-10 minute walk from the CDGVal stop.)

You might make the connection if you are in C on your AF flight and do not check bags (note that AF has a stricter weight limit for cabin baggage than US does). That way you can take advantage of priority security at CDG (called "Accès no. 1"). You should also check in on line before your flight; US will not be able to check you in for your AF flight, and you may not make it to CDG2 in time to beat the checkin deadline.

If you are in Y on AF, you will probably need to check bags, because AF allows only one carryon in Y. If you check your bags from the US, you will not need to collect them at CDG, but I'd be surprised if the bags make the connection.
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Old Feb 7, 13, 11:59 am
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Thanks for the replies. Our travel plans are set, so we'll have to hope for the best. Hope that these factors help:

1 - Flying US Airways Envoy, so we'll be off the plane quickly and we were told that there is a quicker immigration line for business class.

2 - We are traveling light, no checked bags, just a couple of small carry-on bags.

3 - We'll check-in to the AF flight from home and have boarding passes ready to go.


The US Airways flight has a good history of arriving on time, we'll have terminal maps ready to go, & we'll be ready.
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Originally Posted by CNMAZ View Post
Thanks for the replies. Our travel plans are set, so we'll have to hope for the best. Hope that these factors help:

1 - Flying US Airways Envoy, so we'll be off the plane quickly and we were told that there is a quicker immigration line for business class.

2 - We are traveling light, no checked bags, just a couple of small carry-on bags.

3 - We'll check-in to the AF flight from home and have boarding passes ready to go.


The US Airways flight has a good history of arriving on time, we'll have terminal maps ready to go, & we'll be ready.
I'd also have your credit card handy as AF likely will likely make you purchase a new (full-fare or close to it) ticket to FCO if you miss the flight you're booked on.
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Originally Posted by CNMAZ View Post
Thanks for the replies. Our travel plans are set, so we'll have to hope for the best. Hope that these factors help:

1 - Flying US Airways Envoy, so we'll be off the plane quickly and we were told that there is a quicker immigration line for business class.

2 - We are traveling light, no checked bags, just a couple of small carry-on bags.

3 - We'll check-in to the AF flight from home and have boarding passes ready to go.


The US Airways flight has a good history of arriving on time, we'll have terminal maps ready to go, & we'll be ready.

Did you buy two separate tickets?
Since US is in one alliance and AF is in another I assume that this was not sold to you by US or AF;
Immigration in CDG is usually fast; lines may be long but it moves fast. It is faster if you have an EU citizenship.
I have not seen the business immigration line but if you are short on time, I would walk to the front of the line, apologize profusely, and ask somebody to allow you to cut in. I have allowed many people to cut in when they look desperate.
1.5 is doable; just move fast; read the France or AF forums for better idea of how to move from terminal 1 to Schengen 2;
Make sure you have nothing that looks suspicious in your carry on.

http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/e...ection-flight/
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Old Feb 9, 13, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by keisari View Post
Did you buy two separate tickets?
Since US is in one alliance and AF is in another I assume that this was not sold to you by US or AF;
Immigration in CDG is usually fast; lines may be long but it moves fast. It is faster if you have an EU citizenship.
I have not seen the business immigration line but if you are short on time, I would walk to the front of the line, apologize profusely, and ask somebody to allow you to cut in. I have allowed many people to cut in when they look desperate.
1.5 is doable; just move fast; read the France or AF forums for better idea of how to move from terminal 1 to Schengen 2;
Make sure you have nothing that looks suspicious in your carry on.

http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/e...ection-flight/
Yes, 2 tickets. Thanks for the link.
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