New and cancelled destinations, major schedule and operational changes
#31
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Gdansk & Ljubljana
There does not seem to be any flights to Ljubljana next winter. However, last winter the flights to Gdansk were cancelled but next winter they seem to operate on a year around basis.
Let's see what happens to the newish overnight European flights to many destinations (AMS, OSL, MAN, MUC, WAW etc) after the rescheduled Delhi flights. There is no need for connection flights to Asia from Europe in the early morning. Can business connections to just Helsinki and maybe to MOW, LED and TLL keep these flights going.
Let's see what happens to the newish overnight European flights to many destinations (AMS, OSL, MAN, MUC, WAW etc) after the rescheduled Delhi flights. There is no need for connection flights to Asia from Europe in the early morning. Can business connections to just Helsinki and maybe to MOW, LED and TLL keep these flights going.
#32
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Buchurest & Warsaw
There will be daily non-stop flights to OTP during the winter period. However, the night stopover to WAW will not be started.
Source: www.finnair.fi
Source: www.finnair.fi
#33
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Reduced frequencies
Manchester
The newly started night stopover will be cancelled at least during the winter period
Munich
The night stopover has disappeared. Not sure if it was ever started.
Hamburg
The midday flight will be cancelled at least during the winter period
Source: www.finnair.com
I guess this is connected to the revised longhaul schedules and the turbulent times of air travel.
The newly started night stopover will be cancelled at least during the winter period
Munich
The night stopover has disappeared. Not sure if it was ever started.
Hamburg
The midday flight will be cancelled at least during the winter period
Source: www.finnair.com
I guess this is connected to the revised longhaul schedules and the turbulent times of air travel.
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#36
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Pure speculation: Japan
A Finnish site (www.flightforum.fi) showed a link to a news agency http://www.redorbit.com/news/busines...boost_flights/, which said that Japan and Finland have agreed on an increased number of flights between the two countries. The most important feature is that Finnair will be able to fly daily to Narita in 2010 when the extension of the runway will be completed. I think this will happen. They were the first airline to operate non-stop flights from Western Europe to Tokyo in 1983 (?) so it took only 27 years to increase the flights on a daily basis. Well, Finnair has not yet announced that they will increase the number of flights, but I think it will happen ntw these two Oneworld hubs.
Also flights to Osaka could be operated 10 times a week and flights to Nagoya could be operated on a daily basis. They just cut the flights to NGO from 4 to 3 times a week, so it is not probable that it would happen anytime soon. I doubt even Osaka although Finnair has has said that they would like to operate to some of their Asian destinations twice a day.
Also flights to Osaka could be operated 10 times a week and flights to Nagoya could be operated on a daily basis. They just cut the flights to NGO from 4 to 3 times a week, so it is not probable that it would happen anytime soon. I doubt even Osaka although Finnair has has said that they would like to operate to some of their Asian destinations twice a day.
#37
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AY has many customers who prefer to fly from Haneda and connect at Kansai. So unless Narita gets some sort of revolutionary new rapid transit connection from downtown Tokyo, KIX should be quite safe. NGO can do on it's own as a mini-hub to domestic Japanese destinations and for the smart flyer also to regional Chinese and Korean cities.
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Fully agree with this. Flying to NRT and going to Tokyo is a bit like flying to Helsinki and to physically land in Jyväskylä, in terms of ground transportation
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Brussels
Next January AY will start a new flight to Brussels. It will leave later than the last SN flight out of Helsinki and it will be the first flight from Brussels to Helsinki (currently the first flight is operated by SN). The codeshares with SN are still shown but I wonder if this is some kind of an indication of SN switching partners in Finland (Blue1/SAS) after the Lufthansa deal. Any way, its a good move on this important route.
Seoul
There will be an additional sixth flight a week to Seoul.
Nagoya
The frequency will return to four next summer.
Next January AY will start a new flight to Brussels. It will leave later than the last SN flight out of Helsinki and it will be the first flight from Brussels to Helsinki (currently the first flight is operated by SN). The codeshares with SN are still shown but I wonder if this is some kind of an indication of SN switching partners in Finland (Blue1/SAS) after the Lufthansa deal. Any way, its a good move on this important route.
Seoul
There will be an additional sixth flight a week to Seoul.
Nagoya
The frequency will return to four next summer.
#41
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Bergen
According to www.flightforum.fi AY will return to Bergen next summer after a few years' pause. I thought that Norwegian was supposed to feed passangers from Scandinavia to Asia.
#42
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According to www.flightforum.fi AY will return to Bergen next summer after a few years' pause.
#43
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This is good news indeed. However, I wonder why in this forum my proposal of adding Strasbourg to the AY network has always been turned down "because there is not enough industry in the region"... Obviously there must be more industry in Bergen than in Strasbourg and in its neighbouring Freiburg i.B., Metz, Colmar and Basel together!
#44
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Perhaps it may turn out that I'm wrong, but I mean that AY should at least try Strasbourg. It would certainly be an interesting destination also for Scandinavian PAX.
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