Apr 25, 2022, 5:13 pm
Last edit by: SonicStar817
New cabin on:
333 LTM LTO LTP LTR LTS LTT LTU (C28W21Y230)
359:
LWB (C43W24Y211)
LWC (C43W24Y211)
LWD (C43W24Y211)
LWE (C43W24Y211)
LWF (C43W24Y211)
LWG (C43W24Y211)
LWH (C43W24Y211)
LWI (C30W26Y265)
LWK (C30W26Y265)
LWL (C30W26Y265)
LWM (C43W24Y211)
LWN (C30W26Y265)
LWO (C30W26Y265)
LWP (C30W26Y265)
LWR (C30W26Y265)
LWS (C30W26Y265)
Routes with "guaranteed" new cabin W23–24 (29OCT23 onwards):
BKK (AY141/142), DFW (AY19/20), DEL (AY121/122), DOH (AY1981/1982, AY1983/1984, AY1985/1986), HKG (AY99/100), JFK (AY15/AY16), SIN (AY131/132), HND (AY61/62)
333 LTM LTO LTP LTR LTS LTT LTU (C28W21Y230)
359:
LWB (C43W24Y211)
LWC (C43W24Y211)
LWD (C43W24Y211)
LWE (C43W24Y211)
LWF (C43W24Y211)
LWG (C43W24Y211)
LWH (C43W24Y211)
LWI (C30W26Y265)
LWK (C30W26Y265)
LWL (C30W26Y265)
LWM (C43W24Y211)
LWN (C30W26Y265)
LWO (C30W26Y265)
LWP (C30W26Y265)
LWR (C30W26Y265)
LWS (C30W26Y265)
Routes with "guaranteed" new cabin W23–24 (29OCT23 onwards):
BKK (AY141/142), DFW (AY19/20), DEL (AY121/122), DOH (AY1981/1982, AY1983/1984, AY1985/1986), HKG (AY99/100), JFK (AY15/AY16), SIN (AY131/132), HND (AY61/62)
New Finnair Longhaul cabin coming January 2022
Jan 19, 2023, 4:30 am
#991
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Jan 19, 2023, 8:28 am
#992
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
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Jan 20, 2023, 6:17 am
#994
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: BA Gold, Sixt Platinum
Posts: 314
On the bright side, my other half much prefers seats that are straight rather than angled (for some reason) so she’s happy.
Jan 20, 2023, 4:23 pm
#995
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If I should add something, the A330 cabin is quite cramped for a widebody. The tappering of the walls is quite pronounced, and overhead space is limited due to it. Even a 767 feels more roomy in the window seats.
Jan 23, 2023, 2:49 am
#996
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
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I flew HND-HEL in the new C (upgraded from PE for 30k - totally worth it) It also meant I cannot compare JL and AY PE. The JL PE was very pleasant and the plane was empty - 40 pax in total (C+PE+Y)! AY seemed to be chock full coming back.
I was very pleasantly surprised in AY C. I know that people either love or hate the new seat. I wouldn't say I "loved" it, but had absolutely no issues with it. I can see why the airline would like it (no moving parts or motors, subsequently less weight, less maintenance, etc). From the pax point of view, these are better than the "old" one, because - 1/ (much) more storage and table space 2/ more privacy. In the middle seat there's a full partition (that can be lowered, if travelling together) and the seat shell is very cocoon like, so all I could see of the pax on the other side of the aisle was 20 cm from the knee down. As a bed it functioned well, the footwear is good.
Food was good and service friendly, so all in all a very good trio.
Flew the northern route (considerably more to the north than JL did on the outbound*) and even got a certificate (it said 88°N)
*JL flew Helsinki-Tromssa-Northern Greenland-Western Alaska-Japan, whereas AY flew Japan-Bering straight-North Pole-Nordkap(?)-Oulu-Helsinki
I was very pleasantly surprised in AY C. I know that people either love or hate the new seat. I wouldn't say I "loved" it, but had absolutely no issues with it. I can see why the airline would like it (no moving parts or motors, subsequently less weight, less maintenance, etc). From the pax point of view, these are better than the "old" one, because - 1/ (much) more storage and table space 2/ more privacy. In the middle seat there's a full partition (that can be lowered, if travelling together) and the seat shell is very cocoon like, so all I could see of the pax on the other side of the aisle was 20 cm from the knee down. As a bed it functioned well, the footwear is good.
Food was good and service friendly, so all in all a very good trio.
Flew the northern route (considerably more to the north than JL did on the outbound*) and even got a certificate (it said 88°N)
*JL flew Helsinki-Tromssa-Northern Greenland-Western Alaska-Japan, whereas AY flew Japan-Bering straight-North Pole-Nordkap(?)-Oulu-Helsinki
flying NRT-HEL in may
Jan 23, 2023, 6:23 am
#1000
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
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Posts: 8,749
14JAN memoryfoam pillow ARN-DOH
16JAN no memory foam pillow DOH-CPH
23JAN no memory foam pillow HEL-DXB
This is annoying. I consider the pillow an integral part of the seat. I did get a third small pillow, an extra firm one (there are differences!) and it's okay, but...
16JAN no memory foam pillow DOH-CPH
23JAN no memory foam pillow HEL-DXB
This is annoying. I consider the pillow an integral part of the seat. I did get a third small pillow, an extra firm one (there are differences!) and it's okay, but...
Jan 23, 2023, 7:02 am
#1001
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Location: Englandshire
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It was interesting stepping off the new config straight onto the old one. The additional privacy and better storage of the new one becomes very evident. You also realise that the fabric surround of the new seat is really good at deadening sound. The old seat has so much hard plastic in comparison.
Jan 23, 2023, 8:09 am
#1002
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
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Posts: 14,174
Together with matress, the BKML and so on, the future of business class travel might be looking like this
Jan 23, 2023, 8:38 am
#1004
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Jan 23, 2023, 11:12 am
#1005
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Here you go. 