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333 LTM LTO LTP LTR LTS LTT LTU (C28W21Y230)

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LWB (C43W24Y211)
LWC (C43W24Y211)
LWD (C43W24Y211)
LWE (C43W24Y211)
LWF (C43W24Y211)
LWG (C43W24Y211)
LWH (C43W24Y211)
LWI (C30W26Y265)
LWK (C30W26Y265)
LWL (C30W26Y265)
LWM (C43W24Y211)
LWN (C30W26Y265)
LWO (C30W26Y265)
LWP (C30W26Y265)
LWR (C30W26Y265)
LWS (C30W26Y265)

Routes with "guaranteed" new cabin W23–24 (29OCT23 onwards):
BKK (AY141/142), DFW (AY19/20), DEL (AY121/122), DOH (AY1981/1982, AY1983/1984, AY1985/1986), HKG (AY99/100), JFK (AY15/AY16), SIN (AY131/132), HND (AY61/62)

New Finnair Longhaul cabin coming January 2022

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Mar 3, 2022, 7:20 pm

#466

NWplatinum

Join Date: Oct 2003

Location: Seattle

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They had an equipment swap with the brand new J seat ORD-HEL, and I was impressed. There was plenty of space in the footwell and I’m 5”11. The only thing I don’t like is the inability to recline the chair whereas you can only lift the foot rest up and scoot forward.

But I got a solid seven hours of sleep, the bedding is great and the pillows are really good. I love finnair and really like these seats so id go out of my way to get on an A330 instead of a A350, in hopes you get the new seat. Are they rolling that seat onto the 350? Even the older seat on the A330 looks acceptable. Here are a few pictures:

PS, sorry the other is a video so this is the only pic I have.

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Mar 3, 2022, 7:24 pm

#467

florens

Join Date: Oct 2010

Location: Switzerland

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Posts: 6,529

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWplatinum

The A350 will get the seat too, yes.

Mar 3, 2022, 9:22 pm

#468

kauppias

Join Date: Aug 2010

Location: Seat 1L these days :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NWplatinum

PS, sorry the other is a video so this is the only pic I have.

My next flight to ORD is showing a350 with these new fartcage J seats, hopefully I can be as pleased with these seats, I am dreading it so maybe I just need to have a few extra drinks before

Maybe a day flight ia not the best first test

Mar 4, 2022, 2:50 am

#469

strx

Join Date: Mar 2019

Location: OUL.fi

Programs: *G, AY Plat Lumo

Posts: 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by zxcv1

Can one sleep such that the head goes into the footwell like in a capsule hotel?

That worked well on the window seat and not so well in the middle: shoulders don't fit. Also couldn't find a way to turn off the footwell light but salads might have affected that.

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Mar 4, 2022, 3:02 am

#470

zxcv1

Join Date: Aug 2019

Programs: AY+ Lumo, HH Diamond

Posts: 503

Quote:

Originally Posted by strx

That worked well on the window seat and not so well in the middle: shoulders don't fit. Also couldn't find a way to turn off the footwell light but salads might have affected that.

Hahaha. Salads might have affected my original question too... I can't wait to try the new seats myself. If I'm lucky it'll be on upcoming ORD and JFK flights, but I've postponed upgrade till checkin or gate as only at that point will they know for sure if it's the new cabin, and also I don't want to overpay for the old product that I might not necessarily need or like on these flights especially with enhanced catering.

Mar 4, 2022, 4:42 am

#471

kauppias

Join Date: Aug 2010

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Looks like Platinums will have to pay 119€ for a PE seat with no extea service on longhauls

those who have tested it is it worth it over a free comfort seat on a 9hr flight?

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Mar 4, 2022, 5:15 am

#472

offshore_bob

Join Date: Apr 2017

Location: Helsinki

Programs: BAEC Gold

Posts: 143

Quote:

Originally Posted by kauppias

Looks like Platinums will have to pay 119€ for a PE seat with no extea service on longhauls

those who have tested it is it worth it over a free comfort seat on a 9hr flight?

And it’s €55 for the 3h HEL-LHR flight…. I’ve stuck with economy comfort for tomorrow’s flight.

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Mar 4, 2022, 5:21 am

#473

kauppias

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Quote:

Originally Posted by offshore_bob

And it’s €55 for the 3h HEL-LHR flight…. I’ve stuck with economy comfort for tomorrow’s flight.

Im debating, mainly for testing purposes, but I am ennpyed at ay even more so for offering very little to plats and then not even here a small tier discount. Part of me does not want to give ANY extra revenue to ay 😀🤣🤣🤣

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Mar 4, 2022, 5:37 am

#474

florens

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kauppias

Looks like Platinums will have to pay 119€ for a PE seat with no extea service on longhauls

those who have tested it is it worth it over a free comfort seat on a 9hr flight?

What is AY management smoking? Ridiculous.

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Mar 4, 2022, 5:46 am

#475

Finaviator

Join Date: Feb 2019

Location: HEL

Programs: AY+ Plat, EBG, FB Blue, Asante Platinum, AB Exec

Posts: 99

Has it already been announced how upgrade vouchers will work in the future? W or J upgrades? Also if one has a confirmed J upgrade but plane will change to new cabin layout, is there a chance to be bumped to W?

Mar 4, 2022, 5:51 am

#476

florens

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No announcement yet, but I think they said early April.
Theoretically, downgrades are always possible, but you'll get compensation according to EU261 rules.

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Mar 4, 2022, 5:55 am

#477

celsdon

Join Date: Mar 2020

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Quote:

Originally Posted by florens

What is AY management smoking? Ridiculous.

I don’t really think it’s ridiculous. Any other airline, BA, VS, DL charge extra for Premium Economy - why would AY give it for free to customers - regardless of status?

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Mar 4, 2022, 6:48 am

#478

kauppias

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Quote:

Originally Posted by celsdon

I don’t really think it’s ridiculous. Any other airline, BA, VS, DL charge extra for Premium Economy - why would AY give it for free to customers - regardless of status?

its not premium economy right know its just a extra space seat.

For example AA sold therirs as MCE seats until they rolled out the entire service, so elites received it at a discount or for free at check in

Mar 4, 2022, 7:14 am

#479

lkrt

Join Date: May 2013

Location: HEL

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I’d say EUR 119 would be in line for what I would pay for premium economy on long-haul.

The ”real pricing” of W seems to be almost double on the SIN route (Y ~550 EUR and W ~1055 EUR). The ”extra service” there is that you can have additional drinks. Does PE have any other benefits?

On no airline I’m aware of, the seats in real Premium Economy would be free to any elites either.

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Mar 4, 2022, 7:31 am

#480

ffay005

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lkrt

Does PE have any other benefits?

When it’s rolled out for real, W will have better food than Y. However, with the catering levels that J have today, I doubt whether that W food is worth a penny more than your average Y tray.