Finnair nonstop longhaul flights from ARN
Kauppalehti: Finnairin uudet reittisuunnitelmat olisivat tuoneet töitä sadoille – AKT:n kanta katkaisi hankkeelta siivet
I won't translate the whole thing, but summarising: Finnair was planning to run next winter season some longhaul routes other than ex-HEL, since the travel restrictions to/from Finland are expected to hamper longhaul operations and the prolonged pandemic is really a burden to the company, taken how much fleet is grounded and revenue is down. The board of the transportation workers' union AKT didn't grant an exception to several mutually binding collective agreements for transportation workers at Finnair. Thus Finnair couldn't get any temporary leeway to give hundreds work next winter under terms that would've been a locally agreed exception and with terms less favourable (well, I guess being furloughed is more "favourable" then?). Yeah, keep up the good work, AKT. |
Originally Posted by Flying Yazata
(Post 33363286)
Kauppalehti: Finnairin uudet reittisuunnitelmat olisivat tuoneet töitä sadoille – AKT:n kanta katkaisi hankkeelta siivet
I won't translate the whole thing, but summarising: Finnair was planning to run next winter season some longhaul routes other than ex-HEL, since the travel restrictions to/from Finland are expected to hamper longhaul operations and the prolonged pandemic is really a burden to the company, taken how much fleet is grounded and revenue is down. The board of the transportation workers' union AKT didn't grant an exception to several mutually binding collective agreements for transportation workers at Finnair. Thus Finnair couldn't get any temporary leeway to give hundreds work next winter under terms that would've been a locally agreed exception and with terms less favourable (well, I guess being furloughed is more "favourable" then?). Yeah, keep up the good work, AKT. |
Originally Posted by Flying Yazata
(Post 33363286)
Finnair was planning to run next winter season some longhaul routes other than ex-HEL.
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Could be charters or semi-charters ex-Sweden or Estonia, for example. Something like ARN-PUJ etc.
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 33363521)
I can't think of any other routes... were they planning to run some MIA/DFW/CLT/JFK-Europe routes for partner AA?
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Originally Posted by Flying Yazata
(Post 33363704)
That hasn't been specified, but ex-Europe to some longhaul destinations.It's pretty obvious that the A330-300/A350-900 routes to Asia will be limited well into 2022, taken how we have delta variant and many Asian countries are cautious.
So even if Asia would reopen, that's not whereto Finnair would add routes, except perhaps Thailand. |
Originally Posted by Courmisch
(Post 33372997)
Finnair probably does not have air corridor rights to operate flights to Asia from another country than Finland, if even another airport than HEL.
So even if Asia would reopen, that's not whereto Finnair would add routes, except perhaps Thailand. I would imagine Singapore, Bangkok, and a few others have a fairly broad agreement with the EU as well. The question really is whether any of these routes are attractive in the shorter term. I would imagine AY would have wanted to tap in to US to EU vacation markets. |
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 33374506)
Japan they could operate from any EU country, except to Haneda which is not part of the open skies agreement.
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
(Post 33375278)
Are you sure that Russia and China allow such a flight plan from Finnair over their land?
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
(Post 33375278)
Are you sure that Russia and China allow such a flight plan from Finnair over their land?
As long as AY have the traffic rights between origin and destination, and pay the appropriate fees to pass Russia, I am sure that Russia have no objections. |
AY probably has a number of slots over Russia for their numerous N.Asia flights that they can utilize to fly over on some charter. That said, I doubt the option was to fly to Asia for another EU operator, its more likely to be a leisure destination in the Americas.
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 33375357)
AY probably has a number of slots over Russia for their numerous N.Asia flights that they can utilize to fly over on some charter. That said, I doubt the option was to fly to Asia for another EU operator, its more likely to be a leisure destination in the Americas.
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 33375317)
I have yet to be on a Europe to Japan flight that entered Chinese airspace, they stay in the Russian airspace.
As long as AY have the traffic rights between origin and destination, and pay the appropriate fees to pass Russia, I am sure that Russia have no objections. |
Originally Posted by Courmisch
(Post 33375444)
Uh? I've been plenty of flights to Japan flying over Outer Mongolia and then Beijing area, to leverage prevailing eastward winds. Flights from Japan of course typically go up North, around DPRK.
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Finnair nonstop longhaul flights from ARN
https://news.cision.com/finnair/r/fi...kholm,c3382780
Bangkok, Phuket and Miami nonstop flights during winter season 2021/2022 will be operated nonstop from Arlanda. Norwegian longhaul flights are gone and AY has a lot of capacity so good thinking. |
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