Will AY Extend elite status or otherwise incentivize travel postponed by COVID-19?
#121
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
My boldings:
You just get six months on top of your current date what is ”date”, which ”date”?so eg. if your tracking period runs until end March, this extension will freeze your status(status but how about tracking?) until end September. Next tier tracking period will be a normalwhat is ”normal” 12 monthsfrom which date?
I.e. Far from clear
You just get six months on top of your current date what is ”date”, which ”date”?so eg. if your tracking period runs until end March, this extension will freeze your status(status but how about tracking?) until end September. Next tier tracking period will be a normalwhat is ”normal” 12 monthsfrom which date?
I.e. Far from clear
#122
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Gold
Posts: 77
After reading it a couple of times and reading the thread once again, I agree that it is not 100% clear. So I change my stand to "based on the information given in this thread, I feel like this is what was meant to be communicated" instead of "being clear to me".
Last edited by Antx; Mar 14, 2020 at 7:28 am
#123
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
My understanding is that the status, and thus underlying accrual period, that you have on March 31st gets extended by 6 months: so expiration from 31.03.2020 to 30.09.2020 at the soonest and from 28.02.2021 to 31.08.2021 at the latest (which would be my case). I don't really see how it's unclear; it's just implicit that if it affects your current tier, it affects the current accrual period.
What might be unclear is if Finnair IT will actually implement the exact same policy.
What might be unclear is if Finnair IT will actually implement the exact same policy.
#124
Company Representative, Finnair
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Vantaa
Programs: Finnair Plus
Posts: 93
OK. Look at your current tier tracking period and what the end date is. Add 6 months to that. If it's March 31, you will get extension to Sep 30. If it's April 30, you will get extension to Oct 31.
Your next tier tracking period will start on that new date (in examples above Sep or October) and last 12 months. I hope this is idiotclear FFlash
Your next tier tracking period will start on that new date (in examples above Sep or October) and last 12 months. I hope this is idiotclear FFlash
#125
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
My understanding is that the status, and thus underlying accrual period, that you have on March 31st gets extended by 6 months: so expiration from 31.03.2020 to 30.09.2020 at the soonest and from 28.02.2021 to 31.08.2021 at the latest (which would be my case). I don't really see how it's unclear; it's just implicit that if it affects your current tier, it affects the current accrual period.
What might be unclear is if Finnair IT will actually implement the exact same policy.
What might be unclear is if Finnair IT will actually implement the exact same policy.
OK. Look at your current tier tracking period and what the end date is. Add 6 months to that. If it's March 31, you will get extension to Sep 30. If it's April 30, you will get extension to Oct 31.
Your next tier tracking period will start on that new date (in examples above Sep or October) and last 12 months. I hope this is idiotclear FFlash
Your next tier tracking period will start on that new date (in examples above Sep or October) and last 12 months. I hope this is idiotclear FFlash
One final thing that leaves me puzzled then is the fact that with your generous 6months extension, current members have 18 months of ACCRUAL opportunity as well, and I have a habit of not believing in something which sounds too good to be true.
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
#126
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: Finnair (AY) Platinum, Air France Silver, Tallink Club One Silver :)
Posts: 1,655
Okay, now okay.
One final thing that leaves me puzzled then is the fact that with your generous 6months extension, current members have 18 months of ACCRUAL opportunity as well, and I have a habit of not believing in something which sounds too good to be true.
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
One final thing that leaves me puzzled then is the fact that with your generous 6months extension, current members have 18 months of ACCRUAL opportunity as well, and I have a habit of not believing in something which sounds too good to be true.
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
#127
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,749
One final thing that leaves me puzzled then is the fact that with your generous 6months extension, current members have 18 months of ACCRUAL opportunity as well, and I have a habit of not believing in something which sounds too good to be true.
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
#128
Ambassador: Finnair
Join Date: May 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Lumo, BA Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 4,267
Theoretically you are correct, but in practice hardly anyone travels at all right now. Perhaps there are a few idiots who will take any flight still operating and gain enough points to reach a new tier, but those numbers must be very very small and I would argue that you will not see any more crowding in lounges this autumn because of this.
#130
Company Representative, Finnair
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Vantaa
Programs: Finnair Plus
Posts: 93
Courmisch, no this was not at all clear since look at SK for example who has a 3-month grace period with statusbenefits applying while the new accrual period starts rolling inthe back. And the wording so far left such interpretations open, until the new latest,
Okay, now okay.
One final thing that leaves me puzzled then is the fact that with your generous 6months extension, current members have 18 months of ACCRUAL opportunity as well, and I have a habit of not believing in something which sounds too good to be true.
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
Okay, now okay.
One final thing that leaves me puzzled then is the fact that with your generous 6months extension, current members have 18 months of ACCRUAL opportunity as well, and I have a habit of not believing in something which sounds too good to be true.
Hello all new upcoming Gold,Plat,Lumo members, welcome to a new world in 18 months when lounges willbe more crodwed than ever, and forget the upgrade chances best regards, your ”nasty pessimist hat”
Well, don’t bother, just saying thanks to FinnairPlus rep, best regards ”nasty pessimist hat off”
#131
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
OK. Look at your current tier tracking period and what the end date is. Add 6 months to that. If it's March 31, you will get extension to Sep 30. If it's April 30, you will get extension to Oct 31.
Your next tier tracking period will start on that new date (in examples above Sep or October) and last 12 months. I hope this is idiotclear FFlash
Your next tier tracking period will start on that new date (in examples above Sep or October) and last 12 months. I hope this is idiotclear FFlash
Glad to help. Yes, it really is as good as it sounds. Honestly, I for one would be very happy to see those overcrowded lounges and masses of new Gold, Plat and Lumo enjoying salads in 18 months because that would mean this crisis was over really quickly and travel industry bounced back as if nothing happened. Cheers to that. Meanwhile, stay safe my friends
#132
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
But anyway, compare a 50% increase in accrual period duration, to the ratii between tiers (best case with tier bonus):
- Silver to Gold: 167%
- Gold to Platinum: 88%
- Platinum to Lumo: 200%
#133
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
Glad to help. Yes, it really is as good as it sounds. Honestly, I for one would be very happy to see those overcrowded lounges and masses of new Gold, Plat and Lumo enjoying salads in 18 months because that would mean this crisis was over really quickly and travel industry bounced back as if nothing happened. Cheers to that. Meanwhile, stay safe my friends
#134
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
Well at this point everything became clear, but tou have a good point there. Many threads here get long just because we have the FT experience here who can always find all kind of traps and interpretations and twists and loopholes and lo que sea, then workingnout the devils in the details and that.
#135
Join Date: Nov 2019
Programs: AY+
Posts: 188
Would it be possible to do this request much later on in order to cut the extension short? Like, if things clear out in June, request in June to cut it short so that the new tracking period would start already from June or July? This way one could start flying as soon as possible, but still having an extension covering the period of uncertainty.