Take your fellow passengers into consideration - suggestions
Apr 11, 2019, 7:12 pm
#16
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: IAH
Posts: 488
For sure oversize bags are no-no.
All my cabin bags I buy are exactly fitted for ATR to the last millimeter, just for the sake that AY has so many of them and smaller makes no sense just to accomodate some few CRJ or turboprops of even smaller overhead bins where then I stuff my bag under seat or check in.
In OP picture I was one of the first to board but you must be #1 boarding ATR when having row 17-19 otherwise there is no overhead space left after the first item.
Apr 11, 2019, 7:30 pm
#17
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: try to stay home
Programs: AY, M&M, BAEC ...and don t care of status anymore
Posts: 2,041
I am fully with you on this one.
Once I did a trick when a mate behind me said ”camoon” when I reclined my seat. I stood up, went to him and pushed the button and reclined his seat and said ”now you have your full original space and isnt it also nicer for you too” all this done in my best friendly manner and smile to not provocating him. It worked.
Reclining in Y is just a kind of an ego thing which I just don t get.
Apr 11, 2019, 7:35 pm
#18
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: none
Posts: 1,668
so please, take it off 
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Apr 12, 2019, 4:58 am
#19
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY Platinum
Posts: 303
My pet peeve is when people are sitting down or standing up and grabbing the seat back in front of them firmly with both hands without paying any attention to the fact that somebody is sitting there and is about to get a heavy shake from the person behind them. (People with reduced coordination due to age or other reasons are forgiven.)
Apr 12, 2019, 5:04 am
#20
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,735
I especially "appreciate" passengers who board an airplane with a back-bag or some other kind of bag hanging from their shoulders, who make absolutely no effort to avoid hitting every other aisle passenger to their shoulders with the bag as they are trying to locate their own seat.
Apr 12, 2019, 6:22 am
#21
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY Platinum Lumo, LX Senator, SK Life-time Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 282
This one is sooo stupid, you don´t get your full original space, since the space around your knees is the important space, and thats gone if the guy in front of you recline. I really like to travel on FR if I need to travel in Y intra european - since simply no one can recline.
Reclining in Y is just a kind of an ego thing which I just don t get.
Reclining in Y is just a kind of an ego thing which I just don t get.
Apr 12, 2019, 6:30 am
#22
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat Lumo
Posts: 1,519
....But when talking about taking your fellow passenger into consideration, I have not yet met the fellow passenger belonging to the recline team who would ask before performing the recline manouver whether it is OK or at least pre-warns about the forthcoming recline attack.
Apr 12, 2019, 6:34 am
#23
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY Platinum Lumo, LX Senator, SK Life-time Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 282
Apr 12, 2019, 6:38 am
#24
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY Platinum Lumo, LX Senator, SK Life-time Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 282
If someone as civilized as cistavoda (the J version of his/her split personality) would really ask if recline attack is OK (which has yet never happened to me), I would thank him/her for asking and say that it is naturally OK.
Apr 12, 2019, 10:31 am
#25
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: AY+ Platinum / FlyingBlue Gold
Posts: 835
When getting up to go to the toilet: please please please don’t use the seat in front of you to pull yourself up. This habit for some passengers annoys the hell out of me. Hands grabbing my seat just behind my head, and then pulling the seat backwards while I try to take a nap or chill.
Apr 12, 2019, 1:39 pm
#26
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,601
Well, the real reason is that the airlines want to increase the revenue. It is not only the baggage fees but also more rows in the cabin resulting in less space for the baggage. I’m pretty sure that the renewal of the seats in ATRs will result in having 19 rows in every plane instead of some aircraft having only 17 rows.
It is not only the last rows of ATRs but also the first rows in Airbuses where the crew reserve the first bins. This is a problem if the C cabin only has a couple of rows.
I fully agree that passengers of the ATRs should have a possibility to put the luggage in the hold at the aircraft door. This works well for some US airlines and used to be the norm for KLM cityhopper Folker turbo props. In only way to be succesful is that the luggage is also delivered by the door.
Apr 13, 2019, 4:59 am
#27
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, GC Jade
Posts: 102
I have to say I’m negatively surprised by the lack of consideration for the fellow passenger that’s evident in this discussion. Personally, being very tall, I need every fraction of an inch of legspace. All of my stuff always goes up, because I need all of my legspace for my legs, not my bags. Also, the seat in front of me will not recline, as my knees are against it already. No amount of pushing with the seatback, giving me nasty looks or explaining that it is your god-given right to recline your seat will make my thighbones any shorter. There is
no way to recline that seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat in front of me. I’m dealing with it on every single flight.
no way to recline that seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat in front of me. I’m dealing with it on every single flight.
Apr 13, 2019, 7:51 am
#28
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: try to stay home
Programs: AY, M&M, BAEC ...and don t care of status anymore
Posts: 2,041
Also, the seat in front of me will not recline, as my knees are against it already. No amount of pushing with the seatback, giving me nasty looks or explaining that it is your god-given right to recline your seat will make my thighbones any shorter. There is
no way to recline that seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat in front of me. I’m dealing with it on every single flight.
no way to recline that seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat in front of me. I’m dealing with it on every single flight.
Apr 13, 2019, 8:02 am
#29
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,735
I have to say I’m negatively surprised by the lack of consideration for the fellow passenger that’s evident in this discussion. Personally, being very tall, I need every fraction of an inch of legspace. All of my stuff always goes up, because I need all of my legspace for my legs, not my bags. Also, the seat in front of me will not recline, as my knees are against it already. No amount of pushing with the seatback, giving me nasty looks or explaining that it is your god-given right to recline your seat will make my thighbones any shorter. There is
no way to recline that seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat in front of me. I’m dealing with it on every single flight.
no way to recline that seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat in front of me. I’m dealing with it on every single flight.
).Now I’m just waiting for the 200 kg FTer coming here and saying, okay, I need 1.5 seats so the person next to me will only get half a seat. Deal with it on this one flight where you got the short stick and ended up with the seat next to me…
Firstly, I care a lot more about my personal space than yours.
Secondly, book exit rows. If long legs are a problem, then clearly they are a problem of the owner of those legs and I really can’t see how they would become my problem. (Okay, I have fairly long legs, too, unfortunately, but I try to make sure they don’t become someone else’s problem.)