Pakistan air space closure
Apr 18, 2019, 4:32 pm
#76
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AY has heard our wishes (?). I’m doing a DEL run on 06-07MAY and the updated schedule is HEL-DEL 18:35-06:05 and DEL-HEL 07:50-14:45.
For my April flights, however, the schedule remains unchanged.
(1 h 45 min at DEL seems a bit rushed, but I can't see why it wouldn't be doable. If the transfer desk looks messy, I'll just scribble DT on my BP and proceed to security and go to the gate early...)
For my April flights, however, the schedule remains unchanged.
(1 h 45 min at DEL seems a bit rushed, but I can't see why it wouldn't be doable. If the transfer desk looks messy, I'll just scribble DT on my BP and proceed to security and go to the gate early...)
Apr 18, 2019, 8:47 pm
#77
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Well, AY142 is still an absolute mess and my schedule has not been updated. I'm flying on May 6th as well. Worried about this and would be extremely annoyed if AY does not re-book me in advance. I do not want to get stranded in HEL.
Apr 18, 2019, 10:13 pm
#78
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You won´t get stranded in HEL, your problem is AMS. Wich class of service you are traveling? If in J ask for connections inY also, this will give them more options.
Apr 19, 2019, 2:49 pm
#80
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Apr 19, 2019, 7:32 pm
#81
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There's only 1 other option after the flight I booked to get to AMS that day, which is a KL flight and AY so far is reluctant to book me on that.
Thanks for the advice.
Apr 19, 2019, 11:24 pm
#82
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This is the only direct option. But AY is taking all other possible options (if there are any), so did you check all possible connection flights like HEL-WAW-AMS or HEL-FRA-AMS etc.etc.? The connection they put me on was not available at Google flights etc. With a normal search I would been stranded that day in HEL, but AY used flights via CPH and MUC to bring people to TXL.
Apr 23, 2019, 5:02 am
#84
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Airspace will remain closed until 15th of May with exceptions:
https://www.caapakistan.com.pk/uploa...s/A0459-19.TXT
(A0459/19 NOTAMR A0409/19
Q)OPXX/QRAXX///W/000/999/
A)OPKR OPLR
B)1904221200 C)1905151000 EST
E)E)PAKISTAN AIRSPACE WILL REMAIN CLOSED FOR ALL OVERFLYING
(TRANSIT) FLIGHTS TILL 15TH MAY 2019,TIME 1000 UTC (EST)
EXCEPT THE FOLLOWING ATS ROUTES:
01) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 KALAT G452 DERBO
AND VICE VERSA
02) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 PG G665 ASVIB AND VICE VERSA
03) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 JI-METBI/EGRON AND VICE VERSA
04) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 PG T385 TAPDO
05) APELO B505 PG G325 PS DCT 3550N07210E DCT PURPA
06) ALPOR M504 TELEM
07) SAPNA DCT TAPDO AS CONTINGENCY CONNECTIVITY FOR WEST
BOUND FLIGHTS ON 24 HRS BASIS
08) TRANSIT FLIGHTS ARE ALSO PERMITTED ON ROUTE SEGMENT
SERKA-KALAT AND VICE VERSA
09) PIRAN A453 GADER AND VICE VERSA
10) KABIM DCT TAPDO AND VICE VERSA AS BI-DIRECTIONAL CONTINGENCY
CONNECTIVITY FOR TRANSIT FLIGHTS ON 24HRS BASIS
11) ALPOR G216 LAKIV N894 TELEM
F)SFC G)UNL)
Q)OPXX/QRAXX///W/000/999/
A)OPKR OPLR
B)1904221200 C)1905151000 EST
E)E)PAKISTAN AIRSPACE WILL REMAIN CLOSED FOR ALL OVERFLYING
(TRANSIT) FLIGHTS TILL 15TH MAY 2019,TIME 1000 UTC (EST)
EXCEPT THE FOLLOWING ATS ROUTES:
01) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 KALAT G452 DERBO
AND VICE VERSA
02) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 PG G665 ASVIB AND VICE VERSA
03) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 JI-METBI/EGRON AND VICE VERSA
04) PURPA DCT 3550N07210E DCT PS G325 PG T385 TAPDO
05) APELO B505 PG G325 PS DCT 3550N07210E DCT PURPA
06) ALPOR M504 TELEM
07) SAPNA DCT TAPDO AS CONTINGENCY CONNECTIVITY FOR WEST
BOUND FLIGHTS ON 24 HRS BASIS
08) TRANSIT FLIGHTS ARE ALSO PERMITTED ON ROUTE SEGMENT
SERKA-KALAT AND VICE VERSA
09) PIRAN A453 GADER AND VICE VERSA
10) KABIM DCT TAPDO AND VICE VERSA AS BI-DIRECTIONAL CONTINGENCY
CONNECTIVITY FOR TRANSIT FLIGHTS ON 24HRS BASIS
11) ALPOR G216 LAKIV N894 TELEM
F)SFC G)UNL)
Apr 25, 2019, 1:30 am
#87
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Just for the record AY is not willing to compensate extra costs which I had because of a 4 hour delay on AY142, they just wish that my insurance will cover that costs. They claiming off loading bags for 45 minutes and the different route are the reason for the delay - and both are extraordinary circumstances - so not compensation from the side of AY.
Apr 25, 2019, 3:18 am
#88
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Just for the record AY is not willing to compensate extra costs which I had because of a 4 hour delay on AY142, they just wish that my insurance will cover that costs. They claiming off loading bags for 45 minutes and the different route are the reason for the delay - and both are extraordinary circumstances - so not compensation from the side of AY.
Apr 25, 2019, 3:48 am
#89
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I had arranged a limousine pick up which I had to pay since I only can cancel it with a charge (due to the time), also I have to rearrange my transport and due to the later arrival (after 20:00 instead of 18:00) I had to pay a "night surcharge" - total I lost about 120€ (80€ for the canceled limousine and 40€ for the night surcharge).
Apr 29, 2019, 8:56 pm
#90
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Yesterday's AY 141 deviated from the route over Mongolia and China it had been taking recent weeks due to the Pakistani airspace closure and instead flew over Iran, below Pakistan and then eastwards across India.
Unfortunately I see this resulted in a 1.5 hour delay in arrival time which now of course affects AY 142 , scheduled to leave with a 1 hour and 5 minutes delay from BKK.
Wonder why this new route was chosen as over the course of last week it seemed AY was able to manage and limit the delays of the Mongolia-route.
Unfortunately I see this resulted in a 1.5 hour delay in arrival time which now of course affects AY 142 , scheduled to leave with a 1 hour and 5 minutes delay from BKK.
Wonder why this new route was chosen as over the course of last week it seemed AY was able to manage and limit the delays of the Mongolia-route.